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    Palin makes Obama terrorist claim


    Palin makes Obama terrorist claim

    Sarah Palin accuses Obama of associating with 'a domestic terrorist'

    US Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin has accused the Democratic presidential candidate, Barack Obama, of associating with terrorists.
    She said he had been "palling around" with an ex-member of US-based militant group Weather Underground, which opposed the Vietnam War in the 1960s.
    Mr Obama once served on a charity board with a member of the group, but he has denounced its activities.
    A Democratic spokesman accused the Republicans of gutter politics.
    "What's clear is that John McCain and Sarah Palin would rather spend their time tearing down Barack Obama than laying out a plan to build up our economy," Hari Sevugan said.
    Commentators say Mrs Palin's attack forms part of a broader Republican strategy to attack Mr Obama's character.
    Denunciation
    Speaking to supporters in Colorado and later in a Los Angeles suburb, Alaska Governor Palin said the time had come to take the gloves off.

    She attacked Senator Obama over his link to Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground, which waged a violent campaign against the Vietnam War.
    The group was blamed for a number of bombings in the US in the 1960s.
    Mrs Palin described Mr Obama as someone who saw the US "as being so imperfect... he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country".
    Mr Obama served on a charity board several years ago with Mr Ayers, who is now a professor at the University of Illinois.
    The White House hopeful, who was a child when Weather Underground was active, has denounced Mr Ayers' radical past.
    Focus on healthcare
    The Alaska governor also said she wished the McCain campaign had not this week pulled out of the battleground state of Michigan, effectively conceding it to the Democrats.
    Mr Obama meanwhile attacked the healthcare plans of Republican presidential nominee John McCain.
    Speaking to some 18,000 people at a rally in Virginia, Senator Obama described the Arizona senator's policy as "radical" and claimed 20 million people would be left out by it.
    A spokesman for Mr McCain, who is in his home state preparing for Tuesday's second presidential debate, said that was "a bald-faced lie".
    Healthcare is important to voters and the Obama campaign has unveiled new adverts attacking Mr McCain on the issue in every battleground state.
    Mr Obama's Virginia rally came ahead of a Monday deadline for voters to register there and in more than a dozen other states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Florida.
    Voter turnout could be vital in deciding the outcome of the 4 November presidential election.
    Meanwhile, viewing figures show a record 69.9 million people tuned in to watch Mrs Palin take part in Thursday's televised vice-presidential debate with Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

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    BBC NEWS | Americas | Palin makes Obama terrorist claim

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    Clearly McCain is getting desperate. The economy is handing the election to Obama. The latest polls put him comfortably ahead.

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    ^Old news. Same thing popped up months ago and now Palin is resurrecting in GOP desperation to slow Obama advantage. Predictable GOP tactic when you can't win on issues. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was part of the weather underground. Obama served on a charity board several years ago with Ayers (a university professor) is hardly "palling" around with him.

    Rov, smokescreen nonsense. Again!!!
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    Clearly, it is time the general public were made aware of BO's Terrorist sympathies. One can only hope the legions of Obama Bots will open their eyes to this present and looming danger...

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    Folks, I think this is going to backfire on Palin and the McCain strategy. The Vietnam war that was in the height of the 60s, is a little bit....in the past.

    There are pressing economic issues today. This is a very poor tactic by the McCain campaign. I do think most Americans will see through this.

    I think this tactic will backfire. And yes, this is happening because the McCain campaign is in trouble.

    Denunciation
    Speaking to supporters in Colorado and later in a Los Angeles suburb, Alaska Governor Palin said the time had come to take the gloves off.

    She attacked Senator Obama over his link to Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground, which waged a violent campaign against the Vietnam War.
    The group was blamed for a number of bombings in the US in the 1960s.
    Mrs Palin described Mr Obama as someone who saw the US "as being so imperfect... he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country".

    Mr Obama served on a charity board several years ago with Mr Ayers, who is now a professor at the University of Illinois.

    The White House hopeful, who was a child when Weather Underground was active, has denounced Mr Ayers' radical past.
    Obama was....8 years old at the time of the bombings.....

    CNN) -- Barack Obama's campaign has quickly rejected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's claim that he associated "with terrorists who targeted our own country."
    Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin lashed out at Sen. Barack Obama's ties to controversial figure William Ayers.





    Palin attacked Sen. Obama on Saturday for his brief political relationship with Bill Ayers, a founding member of the radical Weather Underground which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including the Pentagon and the Capitol. Obama was eight years old at the time of bombings.
    Link: Obama campaign rejects Palin 'terrorist' jibe - CNN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    There are pressing economic issues today. This is a very poor tactic by the McCain campaign. I do think most Americans will see through this. I think this tactic will backfire. And yes, this is happening because the McCain campaign is in trouble.
    Playing their best card ?
    Cheap shot from cheap minds..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    There are pressing economic issues today. This is a very poor tactic by the McCain campaign. I do think most Americans will see through this. I think this tactic will backfire. And yes, this is happening because the McCain campaign is in trouble.
    Playing their best card ?
    Cheap shot from cheap minds..
    lom,

    Yeah, I think this is showing how desparate the McCain campaign is.

    FACT:

    Obama is ahead by 6% in New Hampshire. In Pennsylvania, he has a solid 10% lead.

    This is in the CNN amalgamation poll which claims there is no marging of error.

    The used a combination of polls. I am hoping they are using correct methodology.

    Sorry no link, but go to CNN (which sucks, but I'm hoping that they can collect polling data from experienced pollsters).

    So, yes: cheap shot by the desparate and falling McCain campaign.

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    this was absolutely inevitable when it became clear that the race was lost on the issues, especially now that the reps have realised they don't have the debating chops to make any movement.


    I assume Earl's surprise surprise clip is a reference to slimy republican party strategy.
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    Between now and the election it'll get messy and probably dirty...no surprise there because the stakes are high and both sides are holding back some nukes for the final sprint.

    Non-critical gaffs, land deals and underhand trading scandals can be ignored, since much like anything else that's down to presentation with one side's probably balanced by the other's lapses and financial skeletons.

    Still, aside from whatever we should expect to witness from both sides, McCain's age must be brought up, because that's a point earner among the undecided, and Hussein's background, pedigree and terrorist sympathies must also enter the crosshairs.

    Then we may even discover if his roots were in privation, as he prefers to promote, or privilege, under the Brit Colonial system. This may seem unimportant to the blinkered faithful, since we know he enjoys basic rights to privacy like any other Westerner, though it would be nice to know the background of somebody running for a rather important post.

    We may even hear more on his passion for his African Heritage, seeing as his Kenyan father pumped a white girl and then buggered off soon after baby appeared. Naturally that could have been due to any combo of perfectly acceptable reasons, including the one where he realises parenthood equates with responsibility, which surely runs counter to the virtues of said Afro heritage.

    As for his professed greatest moral failure being alcohol, grass and cocaine in his younger days, which can be excused as youthful indulgence and discovery, one might struggle to accept that a career politician's greatest moral sins are related to harmless fun with recreational drugs. Wouldn't surprise me to learn he had never touched illicit drugs and sensibly created these flaws as a sacrifice, otherwise he would seem too perfect.

    I would certainly like to see him answer some tough questions on his background and terrorist sympathies, but can't see that happen so long as the lib media sponsor him as their blue eyed boy.

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    she finally did it, that should get her finally done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    she finally did it, that should get her finally done
    Please explain what you mean. I don't understand.

    And remember, what she said was likely said by Palin because the was authorized to say it.

    It was a tactic. Planned out.

    Nonetheless, I think the rebuttals are effective and this can be used against here. Palin, as new is she is, on the scene, is not very well liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    she finally did it, that should get her finally done
    Please explain what you mean. I don't understand.

    And remember, what she said was likely said by Palin because the was authorized to say it.

    It was a tactic. Planned out.

    Nonetheless, I think the rebuttals are effective and this can be used against here. Palin, as new is she is, on the scene, is not very well liked.
    What have you done M/M? Deny all the material I've posted re William Ayers and his association with BO? An unrepentant bomber, eh? Don't gloss over that as 'old history'. He and his old lady, that other unrepentant bomber are guilty as sin for trying to blow up the Pentagon and other crimes. Dohrn gloated when Sharon Tate was killed. Man...sometimes I think it's an upside-down world we live in when revisionist history is the norm and a guy like BO can sluff off his past associations. Don't forget Rev. Wright too. Goddam America!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    Please explain what you mean. I don't understand.
    I was expecting her to make such an outrageous statement out of desperation,

    she did it, that will mark her as an ambitious politician wannabe in the eyes of the public, a divider, a shit thrower, and simply a despicable woman

    she is done,

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    Great lady and unfortunately there is truth in what she says - BO is surrounded by associates that are problematic for him at the end of the day.

    As I said previously Kerry was up about 7-8 pts in the polls at this point last election and we all know how that went. Read an article that Media is in a frenzy about getting exit polls correct since last 3/4 elections they have been totally wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    As I said previously Kerry was up about 7-8 pts in the polls at this point last election and we all know how that went.
    no, he wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    As I said previously Kerry was up about 7-8 pts in the polls at this point last election and we all know how that went.
    no, he wasn't.
    Are you sure?

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    well Kerry won anyhow, it's no secret, but people couldn't vote and then they stole the election again,

    still glad GW Bush got elected, definitely worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Are you sure?
    yes....

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    So we should expect a stolen election when McCain wins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric View Post
    So we should expect a stolen election when McCain wins?
    Not at all.
    A fair and equitable election I should imagine!

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    How about some background on Ayers and the Weathermen here. "Obama was indeed only eight in early 1970. I was only nine then, the year Ayers’s Weathermen tried to murder me."

    No terrorist ties, eh?

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    I'm sure the next 30 days will provide some amusement value, and the antics of the desperate Republicans will provide some titillation.

    But the real Issues- at least the ones that hold my interest- are behind us. The Bush administration would have made it hard for any Republican candidate to win anyway (maybe why no strong candidate even emerged)- but then we got McCain and Palin . The fact Obama is half black is probably a negative overall in the US, but with the devestating combination of the above two factors it doesn't matter. And Obama has impressed on his own merits.

    It's all over. The GOP has lost both houses of Congress, and we have only a short while to wait for the detritus of the Bush/Cheney administration to be swept aside. Then there will follow an interesting period when the effect they have had on the USA and the GOP can be discussed frankly in the mainstream press.

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    ^Amusment value?
    You find BO's association with unrepentant bombers ammusing?

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