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    Why the Paranoia??

    I have been wondering about the American paranoia and its consequences for the whole world. I think it is safe to say that the world is a far more dangerous place now if compared to the years prior to 9/11. American population if compared to the whole world is 5 to 6 % but American military speding is more than 50%.

    Why are the Americans so paranoid??

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    OOPS...should have been in US domestic Issues......Mods help needed. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khack
    American population if compared to the whole world is 5 to 6 % but American military speding is more than 50%.
    Could we get the details on these figures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Khack
    American population if compared to the whole world is 5 to 6 % but American military speding is more than 50%.
    Could we get the details on these figures?

    On Military Spending

    - SIPRI Projects on Military Expenditure and Arms Production
    SIPRI Yearbook 2006
    SIPRI Yearbook 2008

    Chapter 8. Military expenditure


    Petter Stålenheim, Damien Fruchart, Wuyi Omitoogun and Catalina Perdomo
    Click to download the full text of chapter 8

    Summary

    World military expenditure in 2005 is estimated to have reached $1001 billion at constant (2003) prices and exchange rates, or $1118 billion in current dollars. This corresponds to 2.5 per cent of world GDP or an average spending of $173 per capita. World military expenditure in 2005 presents a real terms increase of 3.4 per cent since 2004, and of 34 per cent over the 10-year period 1996–2005. The USA, responsible for about 80 per cent of the increase in 2005, is the principal determinant of the current world trend, and its military expenditure now accounts for almost half of the world total.

    The process of concentration of military expenditure continued in 2005 with a decreasing number of countries responsible for a growing proportion of spending: the 15 countries with the highest spending now account for 84 per cent of the total. The USA is responsible for 48 per cent of the world total, distantly followed by the UK, France, Japan and China with 4–5 per cent each. The rapid increase in the USA’s military spending is to a large extent attributable to the ongoing costly military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. However, in 2005 the effects of hurricanes Katrina and Rita also played an important role. Most of the increase in US military spending resulted from supplementary allocations administered outside the regular budget, moving control of funding decisions from the Congress to the President.
    A factor that has aided the upward trend in military expenditure is the high and rising world market prices of minerals and fossil fuels. This is reflected especially in Algeria, Azerbaijan, Russia and Saudi Arabia, where increased proceeds from oil and gas exploitation have boosted government revenues and freed up funds for military spending. The boost in the military expenditure of Chile and Peru is directly resource-driven, because their military spending is linked by law to profits from the exploitation of key natural resources.
    China and India, the world’s two emerging economic powers, are demonstrating a sustained increase in their military expenditure and contribute to the growth in world military spending. In absolute terms their current spending is only a fraction of the USA’s. Their increases are largely commensurate with their economic growth.




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    ^OP^
    Not sure about your figures but they probably weren't a wild guess...still, are the US paranoid since 911 and is the world post-911 a more dangerous place because of that paranoia? If so, why do you think that is?

    Look hard enough for long enough and you might find a clue in there.


    Is it contentious or brazenly unjustified paranoia, for the US to be in Iraq and Afghanistan and wherever else they are in the world?

    Instead of sniping with blanks in the hope of persuading the more shallow thinkers you have something to say, how about letting us in on your view as to how the US should have reacted to 911 and subsequent clearly stated islamic extremist threats and actions, or were all of these in response to US aggression?

    Whilst you're at it, might as well let us know if the US should pack up and go home with no active military interest outside of their own borders...and would you then refer to them as isolationist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khack View Post
    I have been wondering about the American paranoia and its consequences for the whole world. I think it is safe to say that the world is a far more dangerous place now if compared to the years prior to 9/11. American population if compared to the whole world is 5 to 6 % but American military speding is more than 50%.

    Why are the Americans so paranoid??
    It's not about paranoia.

    You've completely misunderstood this whole concept.

    Read more books, then come back and try to engage in thoughtful comments and questions.

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    The world is certainly a more dangerous place if you and your chums are intent on killing innocent civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    The world is certainly a more dangerous place if you and your chums are intent on killing innocent civilians.
    Yes, the Americans and their chums are going around and killing civilians.

    And there is potential blow-back for that.

    But the point of the OP is the problem.

    It's not about paranoia, it's about the MIC, and expansionism.


    Check out Kagan's Dangerous nation.

    And this book only goes up to 1900.
    ............

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    Most Americans are paranoid, because thats what the government wants them to feel. They can't go around picking fights with countries to take over their oil reserves if they don't have have at least some of their sheep backing them.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphagirl View Post
    Most Americans are paranoid, because thats what the government wants them to feel. They can't go around picking fights with countries to take over their oil reserves if they don't have have at least some of their sheep backing them.....
    Khack,

    You hit it right on the head. There is a constant enemy. We must always be prepared. We in the US, have nuclear weapons and the finest training and military technology in the world. We have 2 oceans on either side of us, and the peaceful neighbors of Canada and Mexico.

    But we must be on guard. We must spend lots of taxpayer money on arms manufactures like Northrup-Grumman, Raytheon. United Technologies, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin.

    Our childrens' safety is at the stake.

    After all our leadier is "trying to protect the American people."


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    "The people can always be brought to the
    bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
    they are being attacked
    , and denounce the pacifists for lack of
    patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in
    any country."
    -Hermann Goering

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    Don't believe him, Khack, much better for the US to withdraw into its own borders, as the man said protected by friends and water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -Hermann Goering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman View Post
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    The world is certainly a more dangerous place if you and your chums are intent on killing innocent civilians.
    Yes, the Americans and their chums are going around and killing civilians.
    No, they're not. Unless the woman or child is wearing a suicide vest, running toward a crowd of people yelling Allah Akbar!

    The operative word, not included was: intentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khack
    Why are the Americans so paranoid??
    Quote Originally Posted by Khack
    if compared to the years prior to 9/11
    simply put...........it ain't paranoia when they're out to get ya...

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    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United State corporations.
    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence-economic, political, even spiritual-is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

    FDR warned against the malign influences of the military-industrial complex which has led America to become corrupted by anti-democratic principles.
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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    How much of the aero industry is nothing more than aeronautical business? We do sell them you know. Our history has taught us what the history of war teaches everyone. The club over-came the stone, the spear over the club, the bow over the spear, the musket loader over the bow, the cruz missile over the bomber. Technology wins wars. We all know it's evil but the bottom line is, until we as a species reach a higher level, it's better to be the fucker than the fuckee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camel Toe View Post
    We all know it's evil but the bottom line is, until we as a species reach a higher level, it's better to be the fucker than the fuckee.
    Very machiavellian.

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    Is that an observation or a criticism? I mean surely you know there are professed freedom loving Westerners that would die to protect their democratic right to despise the West.

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