Thread: Guantanamo disgrace... show your stories here.

Originally Posted by flash

I imagine you haven't got a pot to piss in

Flash, I still like you, but you can choke Ant's chicken if you throw your lot in with him. At this point, he's a naked houseboy for CMN only, so please reconsider before siding with him.

What was the point? If one has read more than one or two threads on this forum, it was obvious that on this topic CHN, Ant and Butterfly would take the anti-American position and Texpat would take the pro-American position.

Why go through all the trouble?

Amazing how pigeonholed so many posters are and how tightly they follow their chosen doctrine. As there any critical thinkers here?

Can any posters see both sides of an issue and appreciate the nuances?

I don’t see it, especially the leftist posters here seem to be overly influenced by their party’s propaganda and are unable to think outside the party line.

Ok, we know CHN, Ant and Butterfly hate GW with a passion and oppose each and every one of his policies, so what? How many times do they feel the need to express the same hatred?

KW

“as English philosopher Edmund Burke once said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’”

Fair enough, you can hardly claim I do nothing. I am currently working in a socialist country helping the country understand and use market-based economic policies and business practices, I also write on issues of importance to me and yes, I often criticize US government policies.

I love politics and can discuss it for hours.

But what use is it to repeat over and over the same one-sided arguments? No analysis, only propaganda. I can hardly stomach watching news channels in the US, which usually consists of two individuals, each given about a whole minute, on both sides of an argument advocate for there position using selected information and data.

That Ok, but what about some objective analysis that goes along with it?

I am amazed at the close-mindedness of intelligent people when it comes to political issues these days?

I don’t remember it being so in days past.

Political discussions these days are fueled by hate and emotions. Bush bashing and rejecting out of hand any liberal position seems to be all most are capable of.

Waste of time arguing with these kinds of people.

How can you argue with people who are hate-filled and who ignore all available evidence and still believe socialism and force is a better system of government instead of democracy and freedom?

How can you argue with some bigoted people who claim all Muslims can not be trusted and should be treated with contempt?

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

As there any critical thinkers here?

Do you understand the word ironic?

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

KW “as English philosopher Edmund Burke once said, ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’” Fair enough, you can hardly claim I do nothing. I am currently working in a socialist country helping the country understand and use market-based economic policies and business practices, I also write on issues of importance to me and yes, I often criticize US government policies.

nice work, you are great. blow that trumpet...

My reply was in reply to your repeated posts that nobody need worry about this and it is a waste of time to argue about it....

I really dont give a toss what good work you are or are not doing....

"you are great"

Well, I have to agree with you on this point at least

Originally Posted by Texpat

America: 1
Rest of World: who gives a shit?

That attitude is no different from a terrorist's, who blows him/her self up along with some innocents. Do Americans have the stomach for this kind of attitude?? If it is as you say then why do you guys moan the hardest of all when attacked??

Why don't you do your self and America a favor by shutting up??

Let's play a little word association, shall we Macha?

For example, I'll say: Snowball. You respond with: Hell.

Ready?

Texpat: Superpower

Macha:

Macha: Get some education redneck.

Originally Posted by Accidental Ajarn

Political discussions these days are fueled by hate and emotions. Bush bashing and rejecting out of hand any liberal position seems to be all most are capable of.

Sadly true.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Rest of World: who gives a shit?

Actually you do, as they provide you oil, engineers, efficient cars, luxury and sport cars, food etc... couldn't survive one day without import, your "world" would collapse

Originally Posted by Texpat

Texpat: Superpower

Answer: Illusion, you are China new bitch, Armyboi

Anyway.... When America started bombing Afghanistan in 2001, all the Taleban leaders and fighters ran for shelter in the mountains. They didn't fear the American bombing but the Northern Alliance ( a member of the coalition of the willing) who were mainly Hazara, Tajik and Uzbek minorties. These minorities had been brutally oppressed by the Taleban regime and with the American Aerial support they seized whole of Afghanistan with-in 2 weeks. A task which they couldn't collectively accomplish before. When they got out of the Northern areas of Afghanistan they killed and detained any person who was a Pashtoon, wearing a turban, with a long beard for the bounty being offered for capturing a Taleb alive. Now many of them were foreigners who just got inside Afghanistan, some were there just to help the Taleban against the Americans while some just went their to get their families out and many other reasons.

Watch this documentary it is a bit long but worth watching:

road to guantanamo - Google Video

Originally Posted by Texpat

Absolutely true in this thread, which started on the premise that Nazi Death Camp is a disgrace -- a single opinion. There are many opinions on Nazi Death Cap, but others were not welcome here.

What other opinions would that be, Tex ? that torture and killing innocent is the way to go

Under Nazi Germany, would you have followed orders as a service man ? even if it meant killing women and children ? don't answer, we already know yours.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Texpat

Absolutely true in this thread, which started on the premise that Nazi Death Camp is a disgrace -- a single opinion. There are many opinions on Nazi Death Cap, but others were not welcome here.

What other opinions would that be, Tex ? that torture and killing innocent is the way to go

Under Nazi Germany, would you have followed orders as a service man ? even if it meant killing women and children ? don't answer, we already know yours.

He sure gets his jollies to it. Did you miss his confession??

Originally Posted by Texpat

My favorite war crime has been the jailhouse blowjob:

British soldiers forced a boy of 14 to carry out an act of oral sex on a fellow male prisoner in Iraq, according to shocking new allegations made about the behaviour of British troops.
Under what chapter of the Geneva Convention does that one fall?

And you claim that Americans are tolerant.

Originally Posted by Texpat

America: 1
Rest of World: who gives a shit?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Every country is interdependent today.

Any body knows a good psychiatrist??

Originally Posted by Texpat

but could adjust without.

Say who ? you ?

get real, tex, you (collective) would't survive one day, and everybody would be moaning and crying for their little things. Not anyone is a tough service man who has retired in Thailand and lives on water and rice like you and Rambo4 do.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by Texpat

but could adjust without.

Say who ? you ?

get real, tex, you (collective) would't survive one day, and everybody would be moaning and crying for their little things. Not anyone is a tough service man who has retired in Thailand and lives on water and rice like you and Rambo4 do.

Try saying that to the hippies and Hippos back home Sailor boy! I am sure they will comply and you a lil bit.

Can the residents of New York survive with out eight hours of electricity everyday?? Many people try to relate to the people living in the under-developed parts of the world especially Americans but you guys don't have the slightest idea of how life is in those parts of the world. Ask those who live their.

Originally Posted by Texpat

In the realm of base self sufficiency, I like our comparitive chances.

We import a lof of plasmas and cars, but could adjust without. We have some oil, not enough, but some. Those countries that export oil import a lot of food.

Every country is interdependent today. How would yours fare if the borders around the globe were sealed?

Some underdeveloped countroies like Myanmar or Laos, might notice little change. I like our comparative chances. And we've got the means to protect it.

Circle the waggons and get them Winchesters out, eh Tex?

Another insight from the redneck, homeboy mentality that underpins the blunt instrument known as American foreign policy.

God love 'em, no one else could.

Originally Posted by machangezi

Ask those who live their.

Texpat: pronoun
Macha:

America is so obsessed with materialism, that one day without electricity or the usual shopping experience buying new toys, would bring riots and shutdown the government in a matter of hours,

everyone would be in the streets, screaming and fighting

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Wow, What a well thought-out and logical argument.

Oh, so you want a better argument?

How about Louisiana?

We in Britain actually clubbed together and sent some aid, as I recall.


( This is just so easy, like shooting fish in the barrel )

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WTF?

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Slow witted, perchance?

Originally Posted by Texpat

Originally Posted by machangezi

Ask those who live their.

Texpat: pronoun
Macha:

Keep dancing......