Thread: Muslims against Sharia

Originally Posted by stroller

Nor are Corsica, Sicily and other parts of the world where honor killings are or have been part of the culture.

Great comparison !
But you forgot to mention that in most muslim countries it is legal and it will be applauded on the six'o clock news.


.....be real Stroller.

I have not made any comparison, just pointed out an earlier statement to be false. Learn to read and comprehend.

Is there no English-Yiddish software to help you make sense of what you read?

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by machangezi

Herman if you want to discuss verses, bring it on one by one. Make your case and ask me to answer. Copying and pasting from anti-Islam websites ain't doing you no favour.

Now what was that you wanted to discuss?

Ohhh Macha you mercifull bullshit...... "boy"
you like this better :


The Simple Facts.

The Quran consists of 114 chapters 114=19*6

The first chapter of the Quran is Al-Fatihah and its first verse is the "Basmallah", written in Quranic Arabic as follows: BiSM ALLaH AL-RaHMaN AL-RaHYM. It consists of nineteen alphabetic letters. 19=19*1

The "Basmallah " consists of four words: the first, BiSM - its root is ISM - and the word ISM occurs in the entire text of the Quran 19 times 19=19*1

The second word in the "Basmallah" is ALLaH, it occurs in the entire text of the Quran 2698 times 2698=19*142

The third word AL-RaHMaN occurs 57 times 57=19*3

The fourth word AL-RaHYM occurs 114 times 114=19*6

The occurence of all the words of the "Basmallah" in multiples of nineteen demonstrates that it cannot be the product of chance alone. The probability against this being chance alone may be calculated as 1 in 19*19*19*19 or 130231 since each word is assumed to have a 1:19 chance of occurring 19 times or a multiple thereof.

The number of verses in the Quran is 6346=19*334; also the digits of the number 6346 when added laterally total 19, i.e. 6+3+4+6=19.

There are 29 initialled chapters in the Quran, that is chapters with alphabetic letters in the first verse thereof. The letters are in combinations of one to five letters and come from a pool of 14 letters.

The letters heading the initialled chapters, such as the A, the L and the M, in chapter 2 when counted in the text of the chapter and added together will give a total divisible by 19. This is true of all 29 initialled chapters in the Quran.

I'am sorry Macha....so here are all the facts.....for the idiots! (fuck Allah & the Koran)

Herman learn to read and comprehend as Stroller suggested. I was asking you to quote the objectionable verses (objectionable to you) one by one and I shall try to hold an educated discussion with you but seeing that you're an arrogant prick, the chances of educated discussion is very slim. Anyway, I'll try my best. Bring it on, bigot.

Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

Hmm, I see my comment about the lack of decent moderation in this part of the forum has been deleted while herman's foul-mouthed rants are allowed to stand.

Herman is exempt from citing sources for his quotations as well, it seems.
His frequent refusals go unchallenged.

If you're anti-muslim whatever you say stands, no standards are required, have you seen the comments made by the retards who crawled out from under their rocks in response to to the muhammed troll?

^
Yes, but that is in MKP, got nothing to do with Issues.
There are some very nasty insults towards a pastor asking for building advice in the Lounge as well.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Herman is displaying his massive ignorance again (and his plagiaristic tendencies). What he's failing to understand this time is Gematria. Gematria is part of the Jewish kabbalistic tradition and is normally only applied to Jewish scripture. It can, however, be used with any text where the there is a correspondence between numbers and letters in the written language. Some Arabic scholars (not many, this is a very minor part of Islamic scholarship) have used the Abjadi numerical system to apply this analytical technique to the Koran.

Sorry DrB0b if I was a bit too harsh.

What I was trying to say is that Arabic scholars (incl. Macha) have never had any solid proof of the Koran. Playing with numbers (what Islam scholars still try to do today) to find mystical and esoteric symbols in the Koran is not even worthy of any David Copperfield show.
The Hebrew show of gematria is a bit more exciting...but fails to convince me too.

Macha is neither an Arab nor a Koran scholar.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Herman is displaying his massive ignorance again (and his plagiaristic tendencies). What he's failing to understand this time is Gematria. Gematria is part of the Jewish kabbalistic tradition and is normally only applied to Jewish scripture. It can, however, be used with any text where the there is a correspondence between numbers and letters in the written language. Some Arabic scholars (not many, this is a very minor part of Islamic scholarship) have used the Abjadi numerical system to apply this analytical technique to the Koran.

Sorry DrB0b if I was a bit too harsh.

What I was trying to say is that Arabic scholars (incl. Macha) have never had any solid proof of the Koran. Playing with numbers (what Islam scholars still try to do today) to find mystical and esoteric symbols in the Koran is not even worthy of any David Copperfield show.
The Hebrew show of gematria is a bit more exciting...but fails to convince me too.

Macha what?? You moron. I am not an Arab, twit.

By the way, are you a Jew cos if you are that explains it all?

Originally Posted by machangezi

Jeez! Herman shouldn't take you 2 days to come up with the verses. After all the Quran, according to you, is full of bullshit. Waiting.....

Or why don't you try using your brain before you run your stinky mouth, oh holy one.

Which Sura you want to start with ?

Bring any. YOu are the one claiming that Quran is full of bullshit n all that, Rabbi Herman.

Now go ahead and bring them on (remember one by one). Also do bother to tell us what is your objection on the verse, oh holy one.

It seems like you are finding it hard to get your hands on some anti-Islamic material on Faith Freedom International , oh holy one.

Ok I will answer all your questions but please do tell me what is this Rabbi on about by saying:

"A MILLION ARABS ARE NOT WORTH ONE JEWISH FINGERNAIL." Rabbi Ya' acov

Originally Posted by machangezi

It seems like you are finding it hard to get your hands on some anti-Islamic material on Faith Freedom International , oh holy one.

Ok I will answer all your questions but please do tell me what is this Rabbi on about by saying:

"A MILLION ARABS ARE NOT WORTH ONE JEWISH FINGERNAIL." Rabbi Ya' acov

Good way to start our discussion! Because I think we both agree on this one.
This Rabbi is an idiot.


But what would happen if we take all the jews in the world that have said or thought, "Death to all muslims". And let them who have said this be struck by lightning.

And what would happen if we take all the muslims in the world that have said, "Death to all jews". And let them who have said this be struck by lightning.

I think you would loose a lot of brothers bro.

Might as well start with the beginning:

1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.







Who wrote this? Who was it meant for? What worlds are meant! Is there more then one ?Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
What does merciful and gracious mean?



Let's not forget this is the opening of or the start.

Fuck the lightening. How dare the lightening strike at the Jewish side. I mean you guys are the promised ones, oh holy one.

By the way you said "This Rabbi is an idiot." Same is true about the fuckwit Mullahs! No?

On a serious note, if you take the ratio of Muslims:Jews, believe me Jews will be the winner.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Might as well start with the beginning:

1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray.







Who wrote this? Who was it meant for? What worlds are meant! Is there more then one ?Who are the bestowed and astrayed ones?
What does merciful and gracious mean?



Let's not forget this is the opening of or the start.

What? Where is the verse?

As I said earlier one question at a time, oh holy one.

So where's the verse? The questions you asked make no sense and they ain't verses either.

I was muslim. Thought it was the word of god, It is not it is is an evil cult!
I am under threat of death because I chose to leave Islam!
There is no such thing as a moderate muslim.
You stupid people are killing your own kind.

I was muslim. Thought it was the word of god, It is not it is is an evil cult!

An evil cult? Care to elucidate?

A red on its way, for inciting hatered and giving wrong info, after I spread some love.

This thread might be funny if it weren't pathetic.

Yeah it is pathetic as it shows how innocents (group of un-armed people, children and women) get wasted in the hands of warmongers.