Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
...Fire away on how AQ is preventing a reformation or made it necessary in the first place.
Precisely, and not only are you distorting the argument in order to adopt ridicule as your preferred defence, but in doing so you also abandon fairness and common sense, considering the broad scope of this thread and that you were the OP.

It is intellectual dishonesty to base your response to valid contributions skeptical of the forlorn ideal of much needed Islamic reform by a tiny minority prepared among other serious obstacles to risk apostasy for themselves and possibly near ones, by assuming the skeptic opinions are banked on the existence of AQ, simply because AQ was mentioned.

Correct me if wrong but while AQ does have a bearing on the subject, it is just one small part of a radical Islam that existed long before the conception of ObL, AQ and the Taliban. It is not AQ that the would-be Islamic 'reformers' need to fear or dare one suggest debate with, with a view to persuading them of the need for reform, but the very fabric of Islam that has been hijacked by its powerful and unforgiving institutions, which I'm sure I do not need to mention but will, survive and grow ever more powerful in line with increasingly radical rhetoric and actions.

You started this thread, and if you find yourself at odds with fair and relevant and very much on topic points made during the course of the discussion, much better for all if you resist the temptation to simply brush aside whatever does not snuggle up to your preferred reasoning.