Thread: How do you think they will take down Elon Musk, rape allegation, taxes or plane crash

Absolute side splitters.

POI what is the word for half a zinger?

A demi knock out? (Nope that's Moore's law)

A hemiqueef?

Musk related:
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Large Danish pension company drops its Tesla shares


Tesla's opposition to signing a Swedish collective agreement is now prompting PensionDanmark to put Tesla shares on its exclusion list.




The Tesla strike in Sweden is now causing PensionDanmark to sell off its shares in the American car company. (Photo: © TT News Agency, Ritzau Scanpix)

August Olaf Jersild

PensionDanmark will sell off its Tesla shares.

This comes after 3F Transport's chairman, Jan Villadsen, has urged PensionDanmark to drop its shares in Tesla if the American automaker does not enter into an agreement with Tesla's workshop employees in Sweden.

Among other things, 3F Transport's members pay pensions to PensionDanmark, where Jan Villadsen is also a board member.

In a written reply to DR, the pension company writes that PensionDanmark does not believe that Tesla can be influenced by means of its shareholding.

"In light of the fact that the conflict is now spreading to Denmark and Tesla's recent very categorical refusal to sign a collective agreement in any country, we have come to the conclusion that we as investors currently hardly have the opportunity to influence the company.

"That is why we are now putting Tesla on our exclusion list," PensionDanmark said.

According to the media Frihedsbrevet, PensionDanmark has Tesla shares worth DKK 400 million.

Swedish conflict spreads to Denmark


The dispute began in Sweden about six weeks ago after Tesla refused to enter into an agreement with employees at the automaker's Swedish garages.

This has led Danish 3F Transport to support the Swedish trade union IF Metall with a sympathy strike. The sympathy strike means that in two weeks' time Tesla cars will neither be unloaded in Danish ports nor will cars be transported to Sweden.







Jan Villadsen is both chairman of 3F Transport and board member of PensionDanmark. (Photo: © liselotte sabroe, Ritzau Scanpix)
Earlier today, this led Jan Villadsen to demand that PensionDanmark divest of its shares in Tesla.

- There are different limits in a board. When we have a sympathy conflict and they don't want to make a deal, we can't keep investing. Then the limit has been reached for me, if you do not react to it in PensionDanmark, it will become a board issue, Jan Villadsen told DR yesterday.

Elon Musk calls strike insane


The strike in Sweden has also been past Elon Musk's table. Tesla's CEO, in a post on social media site X, called the Swedish strike "insane."






The Swedish strike has also hit Elon Musk's table. He calls it insane. (Photo: © GONZALO FUENTES, Ritzau Scanpix)
According to the Freedom Letter, a number of other pension companies have chosen not to have anything to do with Tesla because of Tesla's attitude towards organizing. This applies to Industriens Pension, PKA, Sampension and Lærernes Pension.

Jan Villadsen says that he feels good about the way PensionDanmark invests. Among other things, because the pension company works with what they call active ownership.

Shares in a company like Tesla also give influence to influence things from within and improve some relationships, he explains.

In its response to DR, PensionDanmark writes that it is trying to influence companies that do not live up to the pension company's policies.

"However, if we assess that it is not possible to influence the company, we may have to sell our shares and put the company on our exclusion list," writes PensionDanmark

Swedish Tesla strike could spread to Norway



Karen Nielsen




The Swedish Tesla strike could end up being Scandinavian. Now the Norwegian trade union Fellesbundet has sent a boycott notice to Tesla in Sweden, writes the Norwegian media NRK.

A similar notice has been sent by Danish 3F Transport.

For six weeks, the Swedish trade union IF Metall has been in conflict with Tesla to get a collective agreement at Tesla's workshops in the country. A strike the electricity giant's owner, Elon Musk, on the social media site X has called "insane".

The Norwegian trade union has given Tesla until December 20 to reach a collective bargaining agreement in Sweden. If this does not happen, the announced boycott will come into force.

"I disagree with the idea of unions. I just don't like anything that creates a kind of nobleman and peasant relationship," Musk said in an interview with the New York Times.

Well, tuff luck, Punk

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Spreading to Denmark: Understand the Tesla strike, which Elon Musk calls 'insane'


Dansk Metal, which organizes the mechanics, will first go down the path of dialogue with Tesla. If the dialogue fails, there may also be a Danish strike.







The Tesla strike in Sweden started at IF Metall, which organizes mechanics like those who work in Tesla's workshops. However, it is not known whether Tesla's own mechanics are members of IF Metall. Later, the strike spread to electricians, postmen and other trade groups. (Photo: © TT NEWS AGENCY, Ritzau Scanpix)

Emil Hobolt Mortensen

In two weeks, there will be no Tesla cars unloaded in Danish ports, nor will there be trucks transporting Tesla's electric cars to Sweden.

Danish 3F Transport goes on sympathy strike and supports the Swedish trade union IF Metall, which is in conflict with the car manufacturer Tesla.

All members of 3F Transport will be affected by the sympathy conflict. In particular, it concerns dock workers and drivers.

Strike has lasted six weeks in Sweden


For six weeks, there has been intense industrial action and strike action in Sweden to get a collective agreement in place at Tesla's Swedish workshops.

IF Metall's demand for dropping the strike is that Tesla's workshops in Sweden must be covered by a collective agreement like most other workshops in Sweden.





The Tesla Model 3 at the Port of Shanghai is being prepared to be unloaded onto a cargo ship. In Esbjerg port, where ships carrying Teslas from China land, the unloading workers will walk out in a sympathy strike in 14 days. This means that the Teslas could not be transported further from the port. (Photo: © LI SU, FeatureChina)
But Tesla's CEO, Elon Musk, is not ready to meet that demand.

"I disagree with the idea of unions. I just don't like anything that creates a kind of nobleman and peasant relationship," Musk said in an interview with the New York Times.

In a post on social media site X, Elon Musk called the Swedish part of the strike "insane." Musk has not yet responded to the Danish sympathy strike.
Since IF Metall started the strike, eight other Swedish trade unions have gone on sympathy strike. This includes electricians, painters and dock workers who do not want to service the cars and who block deliveries of Tesla's cars in several Swedish ports.

PostNord postmen are also refusing to carry Tesla license plates as part of their sympathy strike. This prompted Elon Musk and Tesla to file a lawsuit against Sweden's Transport Agency last Monday.

Dansk Metal also wants an agreement


Dansk Metal, which organizes mechanics such as those who work in Tesla's workshops, told DR News that they are exploring the possibility of taking similar steps in Denmark if no agreement can be reached on a Danish collective agreement with Tesla.

- We are currently in the process of investigating the possibilities of what steps we can possibly take in Denmark. We are doing the preparatory work thoroughly so that it is completely within the scope of the Danish model, and so that we are absolutely sure that if we choose to take the conflict, we will also hit the company hard, says René Nielsen, Vice Chairman of Dansk Metal.

If that happens, Tesla owners across the country could feel the consequences of the strike the next time they visit an official Tesla workshop without an agreement, says DR's economics correspondent:





According to Dansk Metal, they cooperate with both Swedish and German trade unions.

"We have exactly the same problem in Denmark with Tesla as they have in Sweden. At Dansk Metal, we would have liked to have seen a joint Nordic coordination in order to put as much pressure on Tesla as possible. We have had dialogue with both IF Metall in Sweden and IG Metall in Germany, says René Nielsen.

When asked how many members of Dansk Metal actually work at Tesla, the union replies that they keep this information to themselves.

Danish sympathy strike could be a serious blow to Tesla


"This could be a serious blow to the American electric car manufacturer.

This is the verdict of Allan Bauer, journalist at Motormagasinet. According to him, Denmark is a hub for Scandinavian Tesla deliveries.

"It's a huge escalation because it means Tesla can't get cars delivered. Neither from Esbjerg, from where they have come from Shanghai, nor from Gedser, from where they have come from the German Tesla factory in Berlin.





It is serious for Tesla if the strike spreads to Germany. At a new giant factory in Berlin, the car giant produces the Model Y, which is the best-selling car in all of Europe. (Photo: © Patrick Pleul, Patrick Pleul/picture-alliance/dpa/AP Images)
Most exciting, however, is to keep an eye on whether the strike spreads to our neighbours south of the border.

"It would be interesting if it also spread to Germany, where Tesla has a very large factory where they produce cars for the whole of Europe. This is where they produce Model Y, which is the best-selling car in Europe this year. If that factory is also affected by conflict, then it will be serious," says Allan Bauer.

DR News has tried to get an interview with Tesla's European division, but the company has not returned our inquiries.

Asks for sources for numbers...gives none for his own.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Asks for sources for numbers...gives none for his own.

Classic Helga. Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Asks for sources for numbers...gives none for his own.

I was just curious

Example:

[QUOTE]When asked how many members of Dansk Metal actually work at Tesla, the union replies that they keep this information to themselves.[/QUOTE]

Could you help ?

[COLOR=var(--color-content-secondary,#363636)]The strike in Sweden, by 120 mechanics represented by the trade union IF Metall, was the first labor action against Tesla, the U.S. maker of electric vehicles founded 20 years ago and run by Elon Musk. The strike has spread beyond Sweden after dockworkers in Denmark said they would stop unloading Tesla vehicles at ports around the country.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=var(--color-content-secondary,#363636)]Tesla does not make cars in Sweden, and the country is a relatively small market for the automaker. Not all of the mechanics at its seven service centers are taking part in the strike.[/COLOR]

From New York Times of all places

Don't know where they got the numbers that I "heard"

Someone explain Unions to me.

They take a percentage of workers pay and then...

Apart of course for union leaders getting a salary for...

Yes

That's it

Simplified

^^Contrast Mick Lynch with a member of the tory cabinet and get back to us.

£150 million of tax payer's money spunked in Rwanda on ​nothing, and you're posting about the dangers to people's pockets posed by unions?

Originally Posted by helge

I heard that there is a total of 120 workers.

And they are on strike

There are over 300 employees. The union announced 120 of them going on strike. Tesla initially replied less than 30 on strike. Latest was it is only 8. Numbers from Tesla. Tesla operations are going without problems, except now problems caused from the outside.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Tesla initially replied less than 30 on strike. Latest was it is only 8. Numbers from Tesla.

OK
I'll look myself

and??

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Someone explain Unions to me.

They take a percentage of workers pay and then...

Apart of course for union leaders getting a salary for...

Parasites that will cry but what about the 8 hour work day as they spend your money on whores and drugs.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

and??

Can't find anything backing up Takeovers' post.

You want a go at it ?

Would fit your narrative nicely

Originally Posted by DrWilly

they spend your money on whores and drugs.

Could be worse

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Parasites that will cry but what about the 8 hour work day as they spend your money on whores and drugs.

And this is too cryptic for me. Maybe Rubba can help

Originally Posted by helge

Would fit your narrative nicely

not my narrative.

:

Found this.

Tesla Sweden vs IF Metall: How many workers are actually on strike?

Tesla Sweden and IF Metall’s strike is still ongoing, but one question remains: how many workers are actually on strike?


Tesla Sweden has strict orders from Elon Musk to refrain from signing a collective agreement. Meanwhile, IF Metall says that collective agreements are the core fragment of labor rights in Sweden. The workers are in the middle of Tesla and IF Metall and their opinions on the issue are mixed.


IF Metall recently claimed that half of the 130 service technicians at Tesla Sweden’s workshops are union members. The union also shared that only a small number of those Tesla Sweden technicians have joined the strike.

In letters sent to Tesla owners across Sweden, the Texas-based automaker claimed that over 90% of its workers decided to continue working. There are many debating whether Tesla’s claim is accurate.


“This is how it is. Those who we have brought into conflict are those who work within IF Metall’s contractual area. It’s not all of Tesla; we don’t take out white-collar workers, for example. From that perspective, that number from Tesla is not correct,” IF Metall’s contract secretary Veli-Pekka Säikkälä told Dagens Arbete.


IF Metall admitted that some unionized Tesla employees have chosen not to join the strike. These members risk being expelled from IF Metall. The union will review the cases of union workers who have continued working for Tesla. IF Metall believes there might be an explanation as to why employees “do not dare” go on strike.

Note that the 130 is service technicians only. Total staff is ~300. The union admits that many of the 130 did not go on strike.

Of course, if the workers, even many union workers, do not strike, Tesla won't sign the agreement, IF Metal tries to force on them.

Originally Posted by DrWilly

Parasites that will cry but what about the 8 hour work day as they spend your money on whores and drugs.

Do fuck right off. You live in a postage stamp of an apartment, and you do the dirty work for your corporapist overlords. Utterly shameful. If you had $100,000,000US+ to wave around, I could understand your viewpoint.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Of course, if the workers, even many union workers, do not strike, Tesla won't sign the agreement, IF Metal tries to force on them.

Elon tends to run his plants like sweatshops.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

Elon tends to run his plants like sweatshops.

Ahh, that's why they need unions.

Its great that no one in Danemark or Sveeden buy Chinky imports, principled as they are