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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    True. Palestinians did the same about two weeks ago. Back to square one.
    Death score 2008 to Sept 2023: 6400 Palestinians killed by Israelis including 1400 children and 750 women - 340 Israelis killed by Palestinians including 25 children.

    Death score 7 th October - continuing: 5400 Palestinians killed by Israelis including over 2200 children - 1400 Israelis.

    Are you a fucking moron, or is talking bollox your hobby?

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    Oil prices will go up so we folks living here in Thailand will be paying more at the pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The Israelis beat the military might of Transjordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon Iraq and Lebanon, not to mention all the Palestinian militias
    The military might of Transjordan etc ?? The only army of any note in 1948 was Jordan’s, managed and funded by a British cadre, and it won its battles around Jerusalem but the rest were scarcely a cohesive fighting unit. Hardly surprising given their countries were effectively governed by European states through real politik in the inter war years or still recovering from colonialism and had yet to establish any meaningful defence capability, never mind an offensive one.

    Most Arab militias were simply herdsmen and farmers cut to ribbons by Zionist machine guns.

    Since 1948, the Israeli state has been totally underpinned by the US and supported militarily by it and through an extensive global intelligence network coordinated by the NSA.

    But if at any time it looked like the Israeli state was in danger of collapsing then the US fleets and marines would be mobilised in its defence.

    Keep it real, ‘Arry, this isn’t Dan Dare or Boys Own where the filthy wog is inferior to the white chap because of some innate power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Death score 2008 to Sept 2023: 6400 Palestinians killed by Israelis including 1400 children and 750 women - 340 Israelis killed by Palestinians including 25 children.

    Death score 7 th October - continuing: 5400 Palestinians killed by Israelis including over 2200 children - 1400 Israelis.


    Hamas is inflating its casualty figures, just as they are exaggerating the "humanitarian crisis".

    hamas has a clear propaganda incentive to inflate figures for casualties and shortages. there are no independent reporters inside gaza, and hamas controls what is reported.

    hamas, are well stocked with fuel, food and medicines. unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, they are not giving it to the palestinians.

    neutralise hamas and there will be peace. until then there is no chance. a few thousand deaths now or hundreds of thousands later. the grim realities of conflict and the religious and ideological extremism that controls much of the worlds behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Oil prices will go up so we folks living here in Thailand will be paying more at the pump.
    Around the world I would say. We're already paying more since the Ukraine thing started

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLD View Post
    Around the world I would say. We're already paying more since the Ukraine thing started
    Sure in places dependent on ME oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Since 1948, the Israeli state has been totally underpinned by the US and supported militarily by it and through an extensive global intelligence network coordinated by the NSA.
    Very impressive considering the NSA wasn't even formed until 1952.

    Still, you know, keep making shit up and cherry picking things to bicker about.

    Egypt alone outnumbered its foe 2:1 and still got it arses kicked.

    And that was just one.

    I had an ex-squadron friend who was supposed to be training special forces in a GCC country.

    While teaching them unarmed combat he was amused to keep turning and seeing pairs of them holding hands.

    Suffice to say he didn't have much faith in their operational abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Hamas is inflating its casualty figures, just as they are exaggerating the "humanitarian crisis".

    hamas has a clear propaganda incentive to inflate figures for casualties and shortages. there are no independent reporters inside gaza, and hamas controls what is reported.

    hamas, are well stocked with fuel, food and medicines. unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, they are not giving it to the palestinians.

    neutralise hamas and there will be peace. until then there is no chance. a few thousand deaths now or hundreds of thousands later. the grim realities of conflict and the religious and ideological extremism that controls much of the worlds behaviour.
    You are, yet again, in error. There are many independent journalists within Gaza stringing for the western press, from the ST to the FT, but they are targets for the Jews and it is increasingly more difficult every day to file reports given the murderous attack on the civilian infrastructure of the Strip and its 2.5 million inhabitants.

    Like the Nazis the Jews have learned how to control the narrative and once all journalists have been liquidated then it will be free to broadcast their lies and disinformation so readily lapped up by the Zionist lickspittles in the West, so ably represented by your good self Yehudi.

    Slava Palestine! Free, free Palestine. Jihad!

    The only victims to be killed in their thousands in the region are Palestinians, not the psycho Jews, as evidenced by the UN statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Very impressive considering the NSA wasn't even formed until 1952.

    Still, you know, keep making shit up and cherry picking things to bicker about.

    Egypt alone outnumbered its foe 2:1 and still got it arses kicked.

    And that was just one.

    I had an ex-squadron friend who was supposed to be training special forces in a GCC country.

    While teaching them unarmed combat he was amused to keep turning and seeing pairs of them holding hands.

    Suffice to say he didn't have much faith in their operational abilities.
    I said since 1948, you silly prick. But the US communications intelligence agencies combined from the individual army and navy agencies , the forerunner of the NSA, and the then embryonic GCHQ in the UK, were liaising together since 1946 onwards. I know this, you silly little insignificant prick, because my father joined them in 1948.

    And who gives a fuck about your bar room shite, you fucking little tefler.

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    Hey, you very nearly completed a syntactically correct sentence there, BLD.

    Very well done. Have another drink, or ten.

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    I can hear our ‘Arry ploughing through Wiki from here.

    I expect he was top of the class in woodwork in his Essex comprehensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    People on here say that the land of Israel belongs to the Palestinians. For me I believe Israel owns it by 'Right of Conquest'. Right of conquest - Wikipedia

    Google up how many other countries around the world have abided by this law and still do.
    Hang on

    I'll post that up in the Ukraine thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    I expect he was top of the class in woodwork in his Essex comprehensive.
    You seem to be exploding like FISSION energy but no knead to be CHIPPY.


    Even if it were true nothing to be ashamed of baby Jesus was a carpenter, just because your tongue and groove awry in Pongamat perhaps you have a french fry on the shoulder.

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    Telephone conversation with President of Brazil Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva

    Vladimir Putin had a telephone conversation with President of the Federative Republic of Brazil Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, at the Brazilian side’s initiative.

    October 23, 202318:25

    "The rapidly deteriorating situation in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict zone was discussed in detail, with deep concern expressed for the growing number of civilian casualties and emphasis on the critical importance of rapidly achieving a ceasefire, evacuating foreign citizens from the Gaza Strip, and ensuring unhindered access of humanitarian aid to the enclave.

    Given Brazil's presidency of the UN Security Council this month, various aspects of joint work were considered, with a view to taking urgent and effective measures through the UN to de-escalate the crisis and meaningfully advance the peace process via the generally accepted international legal framework that provides for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state coexisting in peace and security with Israel.

    During an exchange views on the Ukrainian issue, Vladimir Putin gave his fundamental assessment of the destructive policy of the Kiev regime and its Western patrons, and reaffirmed Russia’s openness to dialogue provided Russia’s stated terms are met by the Kiev authorities and new realities are taken into account. The President of Brazil, in turn, spoke in favour of finding ways to resolve the conflict by political and diplomatic means.

    Both sides expressed the desire to continue closely cooperating within BRICS and the G20, in which Russia and Brazil respectively preside next year, as well as to develop mutually beneficial cooperation between the two countries in a multitude of areas.

    It was agreed to continue contacts."


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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    neutralise hamas and there will be peace
    Amen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    hamas controls what is reported.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Hamas is inflating its casualty figures, just as they are exaggerating the "humanitarian crisis".
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    hamas, are well stocked with fuel, food and medicines. unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, they are not giving it to the palestinians.
    If Hamas controls what is reported, how do you know they are "well stocked"?

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    Israel-Hamas war live: Israel vows to ‘teach the UN a lesson’ as row over secretary general’s speech escalates


    Israel-Hamas war live: Israel vows to ‘teach the UN a lesson’ as row over secretary general’s speech escalates | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

    Israel says it has refused visa to UN official to 'teach them a lesson'

    Israel says it has refused a visa to UN humanitarian affairs chief Martin Griffiths as a result of comments at the UN by secretary-general António Guterres.
    Israeli media reports that Israel’s ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan said on army radio:


    Due to his remarks we will refuse to issue visas to UN representatives. We have already refused a visa for under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs Martin Griffiths. The time has come to teach them a lesson.

    Israel has called on UN secretary general Guterres to resign after he said that the“appalling attacks” by Hamas against Israel on 7 October cannot justify the “collective punishment of the Palestinian people”, and spoke of “the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza.”
    Guterres had said “Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians – or the launching of rockets against civilian targets. All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions.”

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    UN chief expresses concern over 'clear violations of international law' in Gaza – video
    Addressing the UN, the secretary-general then went on to say the attack on Israel did not happen “in a vacuum” and followed “56 years of suffocating occupation” for the Palestinian people by Israel, adding “They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.”
    Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, said Guterres should resign, calling the speech “shocking”, saying that “he views the massacre committed by Nazi
    Hamas terrorists in a distorted and immoral manner”.


    Updated at 08.40 BST


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    Tiresome folks those Zionists.

    The documentary of why jews have been disliked over so many years and by so many, seems long overdue.

    Hundreds about their sufferings

    Wonder why that is ?

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    Israel-Hamas war live: Israel vows to ‘teach the UN a lesson’ as row over secretary general’s speech escalates


    Israel-Hamas war live: Israel vows to ‘teach the UN a lesson’ as row over secretary general’s speech escalates | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

    Israel says it has refused visa to UN official to 'teach them a lesson'

    Israel says it has refused a visa to UN humanitarian affairs chief Martin Griffiths as a result of comments at the UN by secretary-general António Guterres.
    Israeli media reports that Israel’s ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan said on army radio:

    Due to his remarks we will refuse to issue visas to UN representatives. We have already refused a visa for under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs Martin Griffiths. The time has come to teach them a lesson.
    Israel has called on UN secretary general Guterres to resign after he said that the“appalling attacks” by Hamas against Israel on 7 October cannot justify the “collective punishment of the Palestinian people”, and spoke of “the clear violations of international humanitarian law that we are witnessing in Gaza.”
    Guterres had said “Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring and kidnapping of civilians – or the launching of rockets against civilian targets. All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions.”

    0028








    UN chief expresses concern over 'clear violations of international law' in Gaza – video
    Addressing the UN, the secretary-general then went on to say the attack on Israel did not happen “in a vacuum” and followed “56 years of suffocating occupation” for the Palestinian people by Israel, adding “They have seen their land steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence; their economy stifled; their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing.”
    Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, said Guterres should resign, calling the speech “shocking”, saying that “he views the massacre committed by Nazi Hamas terrorists in a distorted and immoral manner”.


    Updated at 08.40 BST
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbound View Post
    If Hamas controls what is reported, how do you know they are "well stocked"?
    the recently released hostage, who was kept in the tunnels, said that they were fed well, were seen and treated by doctors every 48 hours, had heating, light and hot water.

    not many above ground would be able to say that.

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