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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    There are no confirmed losses published for either side and there never will be.
    When you have spent the better part of the war watching videos like these...

    https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1675452941614870528

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...77013701312512

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    You start to figure it out. Propagandist idiot skiddy never posts on these topics because he knows that his side is getting smashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You start to figure it out. Propagandist idiot skiddy never posts on these topics because he knows that his side is getting smashed.
    You seem to be making the assumption that skidmark has the slightest fucking clue what he's on about.

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    Wagner Group surrenders heavy weapons

    The private military company handed over 2,000 pieces of military hardware, with the transfer process nearly complete

    The Wagner Group private military company has surrendered more than 2,000 pieces of military hardware to Russia’s military inventory, the country’s Defense Ministry said on Wednesday. The transfer process is going “according to plan” and is nearing completion.

    The inventory includes hundreds of heavy weaponry pieces, including main battle tanks of various types, multiple rocket launcher systems, self-propelled and towed artillery, anti-aircraft systems, and other combat vehicles, the ministry said in a statement. The military also released a video, showing rows of tracked and wheeled combat vehicles, as well as other equipment kept at undisclosed locations.

    Wagner Group surrenders heavy weapons (VIDEO) — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    When you have spent the better part of the war watching videos like these...

    https://twitter.com/anno1540/status/1675452941614870528

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...77013701312512
    ... You end up with a one sided view. Remember that the first day of the Somme was reported as a British victory at the time. It was only later, after censorship was lifted that the truth came to light.

    Both sides are taking heavy losses and there is no clear brakthrough in sight yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    ... You end up with a one sided view.
    I watch all the ruzzian propaganda channels on telegram. I see both sides, and that is why I can separate the wheat from the chaff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    there is no clear brakthrough in sight yet.
    Not yet. We all wait with anticipation, but Ukraine is bit by bit getting closer to Tokmak and when that domino falls things will be very bad for the ruzzians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    I see both sides, and that is why I can separate the wheat from the chaff.
    That's good

    You won't be able to claim ignorance then
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    Ukraine is bit by bit getting closer to Tokmak
    Define 'bit'.
    And..
    Do inform your buddies to be carefull not to step on the cluster shite then.

    (you know the ammo that our friend PH thinks is appropriate when it suits him)

    (I know a german revanchist by the smell)

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    You won't be able to claim ignorance then
    I won't need too. My side is going to win this war, and tankie/vatnik morons like you will be taking massive copium doses.

    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Do inform your buddies to be carefull not to step on the cluster shite then.
    They are not as retarded as you and your ruzzian buddies. They have GPS coordinates and will clear those fields, unlike the ruzzian clowns who laid minefields with no documenting. It is Ukrainian land, and they actually care about their people, you shit bird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    They have GPS coordinates and will clear those fields,


    You'll be telling us they are guided bombs next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    You'll be telling us they are guided bombs next...
    What are you on about? It is common knowledge that the ruzzians lay mines without mapping the locations and wind up running over their own mines. The US has made it a precondition that Ukraine keep track of all the areas that they use the cluster munitions so that it can be cleared later.

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    Now you see Wagner, now you don’t.


    Weeks after an armed uprising by the Russian mercenary group Wagner revealed cracks in Russia’s system of one-man rule, the Kremlin has been on a PR offensive. The message is simple: Russian President Vladimir Putin is firmly in control, now please move along.


    In an interview Thursday with the Russian business daily newspaper Kommersant, Putin described a three-hour meeting with Wagner commanders, including the group’s leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, just days after the private military company’s (PMC’s) abortive march on Moscow last month.


    Putin put a positive spin on the meeting, but made a curious admission.


    “Wagner PMC does not exist,” Putin said when asked if Wagner would be kept on as a fighting unit. “We do not have a law for private military organizations. It simply does not exist.”


    Putin, who is a trained lawyer, reiterated the point during the interview: “There is no such legal entity,” he said

    Wagner 'does not exist': Why Putin claims a rift in the mercenary group | CNN
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Do we have proof of life of Prigozhin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Do we have proof of life of Prigozhin?
    Depends on who you ask.

    Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin likely dead, Putin meeting probably faked, retired general says.

    US general doubts Russian rebel Yevgeny Prizgozhin is alive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Putin, who is a trained lawyer, reiterated the point during the interview: “There is no such legal entity,” he said
    Excellent and quite delicate explanation of the basis of his argument. Trained? My dog is better trained. Lawyer . . . a member of any bar or would his character preclude him fro admission?

    Was there ever any doubt that Prizghozin wouldn't live out the year/month/week?

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    There is a photo of Prigozhin in his underpants traveling around the internet. Don’t look.

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    I won't

    (where ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    (where ?)


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    Hmm

    Relaxed dress code when gone camping is ok with me.

    A tosser in his underwear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    What the fuck is he doing in Shubby’s basement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    What the fuck is he doing in Shubby’s basement?
    Looking for Shubby would be my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    There is a photo of Prigozhin in his underpants traveling around the internet. Don’t look.
    One wonders what you googled to find that . . .

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    Putin says he tried but failed to oust Prigozhin after Wagner mutiny
    President tells newspaper he met mercenary chief to negotiate terms for fighters’ continued participation in Ukraine war


    Vladimir Putin has said that he sought and failed to have Yevgeny Prigozhin replaced as the leader of Wagner’s fighters in Ukraine after the mercenary chief rebuffed his proposal during a meeting at the Kremlin this month.

    Putin’s version of events, which appeared in an interview with the Kommersant newspaper, was a surprise admission that the Russian president was still negotiating a takeover of the Wagner mercenary group.

    Analysts have suggested that last month’s short-lived Wagner rebellion exposed Putin’s weakness and inability to manage the conflicts among the various power players in his regime.

    On Friday, Belarusian state media broadcast footage it said showed that Wagner instructors had begun to arrive in Belarus as part of an exile deal reached with the Kremlin after the aborted mutiny.

    Putin told the columnist Andrei Kolesnikov that he met Prigozhin and 35 Wagner commanders at the Kremlin after the mutiny and sought to negotiate terms for the mercenary group’s continued participation in Russia’s war in Ukraine.

    During the meeting, Putin said he offered Prigozhin the option to allow Wagner fighters to continue to serve in Ukraine under the leadership of their battlefield commander, Andrey Trochev.

    “All of them could gather in one place and continue to serve,” Putin told Kolesnikov, who has covered the Kremlin leader for several decades. “And nothing would change for them. They would be led by the same person who had been their actual commander this entire time.”

    The offer met with some support from the Wagner commanders, Putin said. “A lot of them nodded their heads when I said this. But Prigozhin, who was sitting in front of them and didn’t see [their reaction], said: ‘No, the guys won’t agree with that decision.’”

    The interview appears to be part of a broader effort by the Kremlin to win the loyalty of the Wagner rank and file, even while seeking to discredit Prigozhin by leaking sensitive and embarrassing information about him.

    During the interview, Putin also said Wagner did not exist, citing Russian legislation outlawing private military companies and putting its future in doubt.

    Dara Massicot, a senior policy researcher at Rand, a US thinktank, who specialises in Russian military strategy, said Putin’s version of events signalled he could outlaw Wagner at any moment while seeking to drive a wedge between Prigozhin and his fighters.

    “He is signalling: ‘I am going to separate Prigozhin from this tool, Wagner and the Wagner fighters, which I still need,” she said. “I still need that tool. I don’t need the man as much.”

    Yet it was surprising for Putin to make public the failed negotiations with Prigozhin, even as he sought to reprise his role as the “godfather” of various power interests in Russia.

    “I don’t think this makes him look as strong as he thinks it does,” said Massicot, who described the supposed meeting as “theatre” after the failed rebellion. “This is messy.”

    Abbas Gallyamov, a political consultant and a former speechwriter to Putin, said the fact the two met “showed that Putin was willing to normalise the relationship with Prigozhin”.

    “Both sides still need each other,” Gallyamov said, but added that Putin’s remarks to Kommersant and the media campaign against Prigozhin suggested that the two sides “didn’t find common ground”.

    Kremlin-controlled television channels have continued to broadcast news reports detailing Prigozhin’s business interests and claims that he was both ineffective and corrupt. The Russian military claimed it had recovered equipment, including some it said was unused despite Prigozhin’s complaints that his fighters were systematically undersupplied.

    Embarrassing photographs of Prigozhin were also leaked to pro-war Telegram channels after raids on his residence and Wagner offices. Some showed him in disguise, wearing fake beards and hairpieces, leading to ridicule of the mercenary chief.

    On Friday, a leaked image showed Prigozhin sitting in his underwear on a bunk in a field tent decorated with a Wagner insignia. The date of the image could not immediately be confirmed, and it was not known whether Prigozhin was in Belarus.

    On the same day, Belarusian state television also claimed that the first Wagner fighters had arrived to a military camp erected in the village of Asipovichi. The mercenaries were filmed training local defence forces in weapons and tactics in the first purported sighting of the Wagner fighters in Belarus since the rebellion. The Belarusian defence ministry said Wagner fighters were “serving as instructors in a number of military disciplines”.

    The US has said Wagner has largely been sidelined in Ukraine, a trend that began after the group announced drawdown in May following key fighting for the city of Bakhmut.

    On Thursday, the Pentagon press secretary, Pat Ryder, said: “At this stage, we do not see Wagner forces participating in any significant capacity in support of combat operations in Ukraine.”

    But Ryder added that the majority of Wagner’s fighters had remained in Russian-occupied Ukraine, where they were stationed before the rebellion.

    Along with Prigozhin’s lucrative operations in Africa, his Concord Group’s contracts to supply other Russian military bases abroad could be a valuable prize for the Kremlin if they can be wrested from his control.

    Galyamov said: “If Putin and Prigozhin put aside their emotions, rationally both players would prefer to make peace so that Russia could use the Wagner troops in Ukraine. Both sides need each other. For Putin the higher goal is the war in Ukraine, while Prigozhin knows that without the president his position is very shaky.”

    Putin says he tried but failed to oust Prigozhin after Wagner mutiny | Vladimir Putin | The Guardian
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    Maybe Canada should join Nato.

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