Thread: Biden says U.S. willing to use force to defend Taiwan prompting backlash from China

Originally Posted by sabang

You are an embittered, serial underperformer who takes out your obvious frustrations in life by being a third rate shitposter on the internet. How bad it must suck to be you. Are you a repressed homosexual too? Mommy issues, or Daddy issues? Were you abused as a child? Did the nasty boys all pick on you? Diddums.

So imbecile you say?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Are you just a pathological liar or a complete imbecile? Or both?

I would say it is clearly both.

Originally Posted by sabang

You are an embittered, serial underperformer who takes out your obvious frustrations in life by being a third rate shitposter on the internet. How bad it must suck to be you. Are you a repressed homosexual too? Mommy issues, or Daddy issues? Were you abused as a child? Did the nasty boys all pick on you? Diddums.

Shitpost.

The US will not invade China. Taiwan will not invade China. If a referendum were to be held in Taiwan to be sovereign and detached from China, it would pass hands down. It's Mee Poo and his wolf warrior diplomacy that's fueling the fire.

^ Of course it is- responding in kind. If the Mods won't act on it, it leaves me no choice but to act myself. Yeh, it's fun too.

Originally Posted by sabang

^ Of course it is- responding in kind. If the Mods won't act on it, it leaves me no choice but to act myself. Yeh, it's fun too.

I would just go and drink yourself into your usual daily stupor, you've clearly started early.

US won’t let China take Taiwan chip-makers ‘intact’

While speculation continues over the fate of Taiwan’s semiconductor factories in the event of an invasion by Beijing, US Ambassador O’Brien emphasises the importance of denying China the chipmaking infrastructure.

Speaking at the Richard Nixon Foundation’s



on 10 November, former US National Security Advisor Ambassador Robert O’Brien appeared to lend credence to reports the US will disable Taiwan’s semi-conductor chip manufacturing capabilities if China attempts to reunify the island with the mainland.


“If China takes Taiwan and takes those factories intact – which I don’t think we would ever allow – they have a monopoly over chips the way OPEC has a monopoly, or even more than the way OPEC has a monopoly over oil,” said O’Brien.

Scorched-earth strategy

The US Army War College Press published a paper in November 2021 recommending that the US make credible threats to destroy Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) facilities, eliminating the most important supplier of micro-processing chips to China and the World.

The paper by Jared McKinley and Peter Harris, Broken Nest: Deterring China from Invading Taiwan, became the most highly downloaded paper from the US Army War College of 2021, and suggested that the US lay plans in Taiwan for a targeted scorched-earth strategy that would render the island “not just unattractive if ever seized by force, but positively costly to maintain.”

Following months of speculation over possible US contingency planning, Bloomberg reported on 7 October that plans for worst case scenarios include evacuating Taiwan’s chip engineers, citing an unnamed US official as the source of the information.

The semi-conductor chip value-chain

“The island contains a chip manufacturer called TSMC and a whole ecosystem of chip manufacturers associated with TSMC, which make 95% of the advanced computer chips that we use,” said O’Brien, “not only in our military products, but in our cars and smartphones.”

In August of this year, the US Congress passed the CHIPS Act (Creating Helpful Incentives for the Production of Semi-conductors) aiming to bolster the capacity of domestic infrastructure base to produce semi-conductors and reduce reliance on imports for supply, with critical impact on the defence supply chain for disruptive technologies including hypersonic and Artificial Intelligence. It will provide $280bnfund for subsidies to chip manufacturers as well as technology and research development.

The significance of semi-conductor chips in geopolitics became apparent in August when China suspended the export of sand – crucial in the production of semi-conductors – to Taiwan in the aftermath of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan and the period of military demonstrations that followed. Taiwan’s role in the semi-conductor value chain was notable over the year before as automakers struggled to continue production during a global shortfall of chips.

“Even when the formal war ended, the economic costs would persist for years.”

Should TSMC’s factories be destroyed during an invasion, it would be difficult for companies globally to continue operations. “This development would mean China’s high-tech industries would be immobilised at precisely the same time the nation was embroiled in a massive war effort,” write McKinley and Harris. “Even when the formal war ended, the economic costs would persist for years.

“This problem would be a dangerous cocktail from the perspective of the Chinese Communist Party, the legitimacy of which is predicated on promises of domestic tranquillity, national resilience, and sustained economic growth.”

However, Taiwan’s National Security Bureau Director-General Chen Ming-tong denied that current defensive plans included the destruction of TSMC’s plant or the evacuation of engineers, while speaking at a meeting of the Foreign and National Defence Committee on 12 October.

Chen described TSMC’s global supply chain as reliant on industrial partners in countries including Netherlands, adding that the US does not need to destroy TSMC’s chip factories because severing supply chains for vital components would be enough to halt production. “Even if the other side owns TSMC, this golden hen will not be able to lay a golden egg.”

US won’t let China take Taiwan chip-makers ‘intact’

I'm just surprised the chinkies haven't knocked all this chip technology off, after all they've robbed everything else they can steal.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm just surprised the chinkies haven't knocked all this chip technology off, after all they've robbed everything else they can steal.

They are as inept as the Russians without western investment.

China sends dozens of warplanes, ships toward Taiwan

China sent 39 aircraft and three warships on military drills toward Taiwan on Thursday in a show of force against the self-governing democratic island nation.

Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said officials detected the aircraft and vessels around 6 a.m. and were closely monitoring the military drills.

Thirty of the Chinese aircraft crossed over the median line of the Taiwan Strait, the ministry added in a Twitter post.

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the formal name for China’s forces, sent various warplanes in a southwest direction toward the southeastern region of the island before doubling back.

The PLA has recently conducted several drills around Taiwan, but Thursday’s military activity was the largest in several months.

The U.S. has warned that China could launch an invasion of Taiwan in the near future, with a Pentagon report this month signaling a full-scale amphibious invasion is possible.

The latest National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) passed by Congress includes billions of dollars in security aid for Taiwan through 2027.

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Originally Posted by S Landreth

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America’s newest nuclear stealth bomber is making its public debut after years of secret development and as part of the Pentagon’s answer to rising concerns over a future conflict with China.

a full-scale amphibious invasion is possible.

A full scale alien invasion is possible too- and about as likely.

Maybe someone from the administration/Pentagon made the remark to coax some congressmen/women and senators into voting for such a large defense budget.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Russia will never invade Ukraine . . . I'd use quotation marks but . . .

Originally Posted by Backspin

Imagine thinking you are left wing , and bragging about nuclear bombers.

He is a monarkist too

Wonder what else ?

Report: US Sending Hundreds of Troops to Taiwan as China Threatens Invasion

The U.S. military is sending up to 200 troops to Taiwan as the country faces a potential Chinese invasion, a move that comes amid heightened tensions between Washington and Beijing.

Officials say the military is preparing to send between 100 and 200 troops to Taiwan, building on the 30 troops deployed there last year, according to the Wall Street Journal. The decision is part of a training program intended to reinforce Taiwan's defenses against China, marking "the largest deployment of forces in decades by the U.S. on Taiwan," the Journal reported.

"We don't have a comment on specific operations, engagements, or training, but I would highlight that our support for, and defense relationship with, Taiwan remains aligned against the current threat posed by the People’s Republic of China," Lt. Col. Marty Meiners, a Defense Department spokesman, told Fox News. The Michigan National Guard is also helping to train part of the Taiwanese military.

The program expansion comes amid growing tensions between Washington and Beijing following the recent Chinese spy balloon takedown, although the training program has been in the works for months before the balloon made headlines.

The United States' open support for Taiwan has only increased tensions between Washington and Beijing. After former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) visited Taiwan in August, China launched missiles around the island as a demonstration of its military power.

Last November, President Joe Biden met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Indonesia, where they "reiterated their agreement that a nuclear war should never be fought and can never be won," according to a White House release. China has repeatedly claimed Taiwan as its territory and vowed to take it by force if necessary.

Longest serving prime minister of Malaysia says the country must prepare contingency plans for a Third World War.

China accuses US of 'endangering' peace after military plane flies over Taiwan Strait

China has accused the United States of "endangering" peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait after a US P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and reconnaissance military plane flew above the sensitive waterway.

Key points:

China said its forces closely monitored the aircraft as it flew through the strait
Taiwan said the aircraft had flown in a southerly direction through the strait
The US has previously said such missions show its commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific

Beijing has been incensed by US military missions through the narrow strait, most frequently of warships but occasionally of aircraft, saying China "has sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction" over the waterway.

Taiwan and the United States dispute that, saying it is an international waterway.

The Eastern Theatre Command of China's People's Liberation Army said its forces closely monitored the aircraft, which is also used for anti-submarine missions, as it flew through the strait which separates China from Taiwan.

"The US side's actions deliberately interfered with and disrupted the regional situation and endangered peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait. We firmly oppose this," it said in a short statement.

"Theatre forces remain on high alert at all times and resolutely defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity."

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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The United States has previously said such missions show the US commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific.

Taiwan's defence ministry, in its own brief statement, said the aircraft had flown in a southerly direction through the strait.

Taiwan's forces tracked the aircraft, the ministry said, noting the situation was "as normal". It did not elaborate.

China, which claims democratically governed Taiwan as its own territory, has stepped up its military activity near the island in the past three years as it seeks to try to force Taiwan to accept Beijing's sovereignty.

Taiwan's government says only the island's people can decide their future and it will not give in to threats.

Washington is Taiwan's most important international backer and seller of arms despite the absence of formal diplomatic ties, and US support for the island is a constant irritant in Sino-US relations.

https://www.abc. net.au/news/2023-02-27/us-p8a-poseidon-taiwan-strait-china/102030690

Beijing has been incensed by US military missions through the narrow strait, most frequently of warships but occasionally of aircraft, saying China "has sovereignty, sovereign rights and jurisdiction" over the waterway.

It can say what it fucking likes. It doesn't.

The Boeing P-8 Poseidon is an American maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft developed and derived from the civilian Boeing 737-800.

The P-8 operates in anti-submarine warfare (ASW), anti-surface warfare (ASUW), and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) roles.

American naval aircraft makes rare Taiwan Strait transit

An American naval aircraft on Monday made a rare transit through the Taiwan Strait, a flight the United States Navy said showed Washington's "commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific."

The U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon transited the Taiwan Strait in international airspace, according to a statement released by the 7th Fleet under the U.S. Pacific Command.

"By operating within the Taiwan Strait in accordance with international law, the United States upholds the navigational rights and freedoms of all nations," it said.

"The aircraft's transit of the Taiwan Strait demonstrates the United States' commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific," it said.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

Boeing P-8 Poseidon

They patrol every day!

Excellent watch...

Originally Posted by panama hat

And an excellent pictorial of why China is worried about US naval presence, quite rightly so.

China is the aggressor here and not the other way around. As the admiral stated in the video, this is about freedom of travel in international territory. It is China that is attempting to impede that in the South China Sea and other places.