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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post


    Google is your friend :

    "Who has contributed most to global CO2 emissions?


    • the United States has emitted more CO2 than any other country to date: at around 400 billion tonnes since 1751 (271 years), it is responsible for 25% of historical emissions."


    400,000,000,000 tonnes/271 years

    = 228,440,892 tonnes/year;


    Google is your friend :

    "How old is China as a country?

    3,500 years.

    Amongst the oldest nations in the World, the next on the list is China as it has been known to exist for over 3500 years."

    Some might suggest Chines reported data includes all it's emitted CO2 for approx 3,500 ears


    • this is twice more than China – the world's second largest national contributor;"


    50% of 400,000,000,000 = 200,000,000.000 tonnes

    200,000,000.000 tonnes/3,500 years

    = 57,000,000 tonnes/year.

    Approximately 25% of NaGastan annual CO2 Emittance.

    Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

    China has committed to reduce it's emission by xxx in YYY years. If we are all alive then, another discussion may be warranted.

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    Some are willing to show their achievements, others prefer not to and hide their data, why?

    Whatabout 1751?!


    Yeah, and don't forget those fucking dinosaurs hoohoo, they ate a lot of vegetation too.



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    And their farts must have had massive methane impact.

    Almost as much obnoxious hot air as found in ohno's posts.

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    So what is Your country doing? What progress have they made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    don't forget those fucking dinosaurs
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    And their farts must have had massive methane impact.
    I suspect China had a fair share of them, possibly more than NaGastan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So what is Your country doing? What progress have they made?
    2019: The UK’s CO2 emissions peaked in the year 1973 and have declined by around 38% since 1990, faster than any other major developed country.
    Any more stupid fucking attempts at diversion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    China calls for rejection of double standards in nuclear non-proliferation

    The international community should reject double standards in the area of nuclear non-proliferation, head of the Chinese delegation Fu Cong told the 10th Review Conference of the Parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) on Aug. 2, 2022. (Xinhua)


    You do understand that there is no correlation between a nuclear 'weapon' and a nuclear 'power source' and the the Chinese delegation is just speaking shit.

    Using the Chinese theory, nuclear powered electricity generators fall foul of the Treaty. They do the same thing, use nuclear energy to create electricity.

    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    You do understand that there is no correlation between a nuclear 'weapon' and a nuclear 'power source' and the the Chinese delegation is just speaking shit.
    Of course he doesn't understand. These Three Stooges lemmings swallow everything they get from the CCP and the Kremlin without question. They are useful idiots and nothing more.

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    I'd love to know what first hand experience Sabang has of Mainland China. (DaLu)

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    The 'Chinese delegation' isn't just speaking- it has been doing. Meanwhile, what has the declining US been doing? Oh, that's right- it defanged the EPA.




    ^ I was a hongkie really. Probably been to China 20-25 times, but as a visitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I'd love to know what first hand experience Sabang has of Mainland China. (DaLu)



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    Hong Kong slips into second recession since 2019 mass protests

    International financial hub’s economy shrinks 1.4 percent in the second quarter, after previous 3.9 percent decline.

    Hong Kong has tipped back into a technical recession, new government figures showed Monday, weighed down by mounting interest rates, weakened global trade and the city’s continued adherence to strict coronavirus controls.

    Following a year-on-year decrease of 3.9 percent in the first quarter of 2022, the city’s gross domestic product (GDP) again reported a decline in the second quarter on Monday — but with a narrower margin of 1.4 percent — according to advance estimates released by the Census and Statistics Department.

    The downturn is reversing last year’s recovery when the economy enjoyed a 6.3 percent annual growth after the slowdown in 2019 and 2020 when the city was first upended by months of huge, sometimes violent pro-democracy protests, and then the pandemic.

    The Hong Kong government said the economic improvement was smaller than expected due to weak performance in external trade.
    Official statistics released last month showed the value of total exports of goods in the second quarter decreased by 4.2 percent compared with the preceding quarter.

    For the first half of 2022, a visible trade deficit of $206.1bn, equivalent to 8.2 percent of the value of imports of goods, was recorded.
    “Weakened global demand and continued disruptions to cross-boundary land cargo flows between the mainland and Hong Kong weighed heavily on Hong Kong’s exports,” the government said Monday.

    Monetary policy tightening by major central banks around the world is expected to dampen global economic growth significantly, while quarantine-free travel between Hong Kong and mainland China is yet to have a clear timetable under Beijing’s strict adherence to its zero COVID-19 policy.

    The financial hub’s new leader John Lee said his government would soon announce further shortening of mandatory hotel quarantine for overseas arrivals, according to an interview with the Hong Kong Economic Journal published on Monday.

    “Connecting with the world and with the mainland, we shall do both and they are not contradictory,” Lee told the newspaper.

    “I understand that one of Hong Kong’s competitiveness lies in its international connections.”
    In following China’s zero COVID-19 policy, Hong Kong has been largely cut off from the rest of the world for more than two years.

    It still has some of the world’s strictest restrictions, including a week-long quarantine for arrivals and a ban on group gatherings with more than four people.

    Local media recently reported that the government was mulling resuming quarantine-free travel for overseas arrivals in November, when the city is hoping to resuscitate its international image with a finance summit and the Hong Kong Rugby Sevens.

    Hong Kong slips into second recession since 2019 mass protests | Business and Economy | Al Jazeera

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    This is called, Progress...

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1555363709572325383


    90 second clip. Full interview on Spotify-

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    It does make me wonder, you know- so much of China's vast and increasing wealth seems to be going to infrastructural investment, wage growth, and things that actually help people. Ours seems to go to make the already rich even richer, and wage growth and infrastructural investment are basically stagnant.
    Last edited by sabang; 06-08-2022 at 09:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1555363709572325383


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    It does make me wonder, you know- so much of China's vast and increasing wealth seems to be going to infrastructural investment, wage growth, and things that actually help people. Ours seems to go to make the already rich even richer, and wage growth and infrastructural investment are basically stagnant.

    No it's called being an obsequious chinky brown noser, like yourself.

    The Chinese have caused untold poverty and starvation around the world with their predatory loan sharking and the pillaging of other peoples' resources.

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    It is not brown nosing to point out the Facts. It just makes obsequious apologists like you feel uncomfortable.
    Considering you are a typical denizen of the lower echelons that are being held back by this 'make the rich richer' philosophy, it is actually quite humorous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Using the Chinese theory, nuclear powered electricity generators fall foul of the Treaty.
    Where in my article above, that you quoted, are:

    "nuclear-powered electricity generators", discussed or statements made?

    Which "treaty" are you referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    nuclear 'power source'
    The "nuclear power source" referred to, is planned to be placed in a submarine. A weapon of war. Not an onshore civilian "nuclear-powered electricity generation station". The management of which, will be military, not civilian.

    There doesn't appear to be any civilian "nuclear-powered electricity generation stations" actually built presently in OZ.

    One "research civilian nuclear-powered",

    "As of 2018, Australia has one operating nuclear reactor, the OPAL research reactor at Lucas Heights which supplies the vast majority of Australia's nuclear medicine."

    Nuclear power in Australia

    "A resurgence of interest in nuclear power was prompted by Prime Minister John Howard in 2007 in response to the need to move to low-carbon methods of power generation in order to reduce the effects of global warming on Australia.

    In 2015, South Australian Premier Jay Weatherill initiated a Nuclear Fuel Cycle Royal Commission to investigate the state's future role in the nuclear fuel cycle.

    As of 2018 there are three active uranium mines, Ranger in Northern Territory, Olympic Dam in South Australia, and Beverley with Four Mile in South Australia. The Royal Commission determined that there was no case for the introduction of nuclear power to the electricity grid in South Australia, but it did not consider its potential interstate. In its final report of May 2016, the Royal Commission recommended that prohibitions preventing the development of nuclear power plants nationally should be repealed.

    In 2017, former Prime Minister Tony Abbott advocated for legislation to be changed to allow the construction of nuclear power plants in Australia.[3] The former Deputy Premier of New South Wales, John Barilaro, has also been urging for debate on the prospect of nuclear power in Australia, including the revisiting of Jervis Bay as a prospective site for a nuclear power plant.[4][5]

    In November 2017, Senator Cory Bernardi presented the Nuclear Fuel Cycle (Facilitation) Bill 2017 in the Senate, with the intention of repealing existing prohibitions preventing the establishment of nuclear power in Australia.[6]

    Nuclear-powered submarines

    On 15 September 2021, following the signing of a security partnership named AUKUS between Australia, the United States and the United Kingdom, it was announced that Australia would develop nuclear-powered submarines, using US and British technology.[2""


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It is not brown nosing
    It's absolutely brown-nosing - you're a snivelling chinky sycophant who posts shit propaganda like the good little brainless drone he is.

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    Not a great deal of new topics yesterday, however one stood out

    Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 5, 2022

    "CCTV:

    Over the past few days, we noticed many countries have voiced support for China over US House Speaker Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan, and you shared quite some examples with us. Could you give us more updates today?

    Hua Chunying:

    Indeed, in the wake of Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan, over 160 countries have spoken up for justice, condemned the visit as a serious, reckless and irresponsible provocation and expressed their commitment to the one-China principle and support for China’s efforts to uphold sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    Apart from what I shared with you over the past couple of days, I have some further updates for you today.

    Sri Lankan President Ranil Wickremesinghe reiterated on social media Sri Lanka’s firm commitment to the one-China policy as well as to the UN Charter principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity of nations.

    Singaporean Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said in talks with State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi during the East Asia cooperation foreign ministers’ meetings that Singapore has a clear and consistent one-China policy and is opposed to Taiwan independence and any unilateral moves to change the status quo.

    Thailand’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson expressed respect for China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Laos released a statement reiterating its support for the policy of China on national reunification by peaceful means and reaffirming its consistent policy that Taiwan is an inalienable part of China as well as its opposition to any intention aimed at creating a situation for “two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan”.

    Lao Foreign Minister Saleumxay Kommasith said while meeting with State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi that the US’s recent provocation on the Taiwan question goes against its own commitment and undermines China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Laos is strongly against any attempt to create “two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan” and supports China’s efforts to uphold its sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    The Malaysian Prime Minister’s Special Envoy to China released a statement urging Western nations against practicing double standards by trying to compare Taiwan with Ukraine or trying to encircle Russia and call for respect for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity on one hand while meddling in China’s internal affairs and intending to use Taiwan to divide China on the other. This would be using democracy as a pretext to interfere in and infringe upon China’s sovereignty in violation of basic principles of international law.

    The UAE Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation issued a statement, reaffirming its support for China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity as well as the importance of respecting the one-China principle, while calling for adherence to relevant UN resolutions. The UAE indicated its concern over the impact of any provocative visits on stability and international peace. ...."


    Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying’s Regular Press Conference on August 5, 2022


    She then continues listing the rest of the 160 countries.

    All available at the site.

    161 out of 195 countries of the world, 83% so far.


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    When I first came to China a business associate who'd been here a while said this. " Do you know how to tell when a chinese person is lying ? his lips are moving "
    I've found it to be a good piece of advice.
    Best to assume because it's more often than not the case. They'll say whatever will assuage/save face in the short term, regardless of the fact that truth will out very soon, it's wierd.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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    So why have all the top knobs of the state semi conductor manufacturing tribe gotten arrested ?

    Might have something to do with the discovery this week of 7 nm chips have been manufactured in China , all be it via a very convoluted and difficult method using tech stolen from Taiwan. And the chips were discovered in an ASIC purchased from China - some one has been naughty

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    ^ does that make sense to you, in English?

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    ^^ that's better

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    The Chinese Megacity Where Masks Are Rare and Clubs Are Packed

    • Masks are rare, clubs are packed and tourism is booming
    • Threat of lockdown hangs over city, after sporadic Covid cases



      President Xi Jinping’s Covid Zero strategy has become notorious internationally for its grueling lockdowns. But in the southwestern megacity Chongqing, signs of China’s signature pandemic policy disrupting daily life are hard to find.

    • Tourists snapped selfies at an ancient fortress while hundreds of partygoers packed into a gay bar this week, with barely a mask in sight. Ride-hailing-app users hopped into Didi Global Inc. cars to escape the city’s 40-degree Celsius (104 Fahrenheit) heat wave without scanning contact-tracing apps, unlike in Beijing. Domestic travelers poured into the city, which mostly doesn’t require quarantine on arrival.

      Chongqing has logged just 165 cases of Covid since February 2021, the fourth-lowest of any province -- the manufacturing hub twice the size of Switzerland counts as its own municipality, as do only Beijing, Shanghai and Tianjin. The city hasn’t seen a major lockdown since early 2020, even as Beijing and Shanghai stay on high alert and more than 28 million people are living under citywide restrictions as of Monday, according to Bloomberg’s Lockdown Tracker.
      Thus, tourists continue to flock to Chongqing, to soak in its shimmering skyline, spicy hot pot and history as China’s capital during World War Two. And the city isn’t unique. Across China, many cities are business as usual, as the ruling Communist Party’s border curbs, mass testing drives and lockdowns stop the virus from a cross-country spread -- the nation of almost 1.4 billion reported 521 local cases for Wednesday.

    • Covid-Zero Chongqing

      City has had only 165 cases since Feb 2021, fourth lowest of any province

      Source: National Health Commission


      That relative normalcy has enabled Xi to press ahead with his Covid Zero strategy as the rest of the world moves on, even in a landmark political year when he’s seeking a precedent-breaking third term in power. China has achieved the best results in the world in coordinating economic development with the pandemic response, Xi told senior cadres at a meeting this week in Beijing, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Wednesday.


      Protests like those seen in Shanghai earlier this year, while notable for their open dissent, are still rare.

    • “As long as you have a majority of the population still living a normal life and not being affected by the pandemic, that will justify the continuation of the Zero Covid policy,” said Huang Yanzhong, a senior fellow for global health at the New York-based Council on Foreign Relations.


      That shelter from Covid Zero’s harshest tenets could be shattered overnight by a sudden spike in cases, Huang added. In that scenario, officials will resort to the “heavy-handed Covid Zero measures” seen in Shanghai, he said.

    • China’s push to eliminate Covid makes even domestic travel onerous, with different provinces and cities setting their own rules, often stipulating a litany of testing and quarantine requirements to fulfill. Predictions for the nation’s overall growth have fallen to 4%, as Covid controls drag on the wider economy.


      Chongqing, by contrast, is a “small paradise,” said Nicola Sangiovanni, a local resident and chef at Italian restaurant, Suliven, in a central business district. The eatery relies on out-of-towners for more than half its customers in summer months. Covid restrictions “don’t have a strong impact on tourists when they come here,” he added, noting an uptick in arrivals in recent weeks.

    • Travelers to Chongqing must download the city’s health code app, and show a negative Covid test taken within 48 hours. Those entering from cities with medium- or high-risk areas should take two PCR tests within three days of arrival -- a fairly easy requirement with testing booths across the city. Only those coming directly from higher risk areas must quarantine.

    • One Chongqing executive said the city’s attraction was simple. “People come to Chongqing because they can,” said the man, who asked only to be identified by his surname, He, when speaking about political matters. “Chongqing’s approach is more people-friendly,” he added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Chongqing
    Was there back in the 80s. Fantastic place to visit. Found it simular to Thailand with it's many buddhist temples and tasty spicey food. Might just visit again to check out more of the ancient temples and ruins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    So why have all the top knobs of the state semi conductor manufacturing tribe gotten arrested ?

    Might have something to do with the discovery this week of 7 nm chips have been manufactured in China , all be it via a very convoluted and difficult method using tech stolen from Taiwan. And the chips were discovered in an ASIC purchased from China - some one has been naughty
    The chinkies nicking other peoples hard work?

    AGAIN?

    Well there's a surprise.

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    Some economic announcements from China:

    China-Russia trade rose 29% in Jan-Jul as nations maintain cooperation despite Western sanctions

    By Global Times Published: Aug 07, 2022 05:44 PM

    China-Russia trade rose 29% in Jan-Jul as nations maintain cooperation dest Western sanctions - Global Times


    China's natural gas output exceeds 100 million cubic meters annually for five years in a row

    By Global Times Published: Aug 07, 2022 05:11 PM

    China's natural gas output exceeds 100 million cubic meters annually for five years in a row - Global Times


    China, S. Korea trade up 8.9% in first 7 months of 2022, showing strong growth momentum

    By Global Times Published: Aug 07, 2022 03:45 PM

    China, S. Korea trade up 8.9% in first 7 months of 2022, showing strong growth momentum - Global Times


    China-US trade up 11.8% in Jan-Jul despite rising tension

    By Global Times Published: Aug 07, 2022 01:14 PM

    China-US trade up 11.8% in Jan-Jul despite rising tension - Global Times


    China's foreign trade volume reaches 23.6 trillion yuan ($3.49 trillion) in the first 7 months of 2022, maintaining double-digit growth

    By Global Times Published: Aug 07, 2022 10:16 AM

    China's foreign trade volume reaches 23.6 trillion yuan ($3.49 trillion) in the first 7 months of 2022, maintaining double-digit growth - Global Times


    China-Europe freight trains break new records

    By Yang Yang | chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2022-08-08 11:55

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202208/08/WS62f0895ca310fd2b29e70e7b.html


    IPOs on mainland hit a record high of $58b

    chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2022-08-08 10:41

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202208/08/WS62f077daa310fd2b29e70e0f.html


    Overseas investors find sweet spots in China's green transition

    China Daily | Updated: 2022-08-08 09:57

    https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202208/08/WS62f06da8a310fd2b29e70dc8.html


    The View, from China-1653819378-its-economy-stupid-jpg
    Last edited by OhOh; 08-08-2022 at 02:19 PM.

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