Thread: The View, from China

Originally Posted by sabang

As Europeans brace for an extremely cold winter.....

1941 ?

Thank you Sabang

Have you bought a nice, cheap Chinese electric blanket Herman? That should see you through.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Pakistani Prime Minister Sharif Expects Closer Cooperation with China

Are they going to build re-education camps there?

Of course they are kissing chinky arse, the chinky loan sharks have them by the balls.

Originally Posted by sabang

What a shame that Europeans are queuing up to buy electric blankets from China, so they can make it through the winter.

Do you think that SE asia India etc would not take up the slack to manufacture if China did not. It is hardly secret chinese technology and not high tech at that. China is chiefly a nation of copiers and stolen technology.

See the pictogram above Hughie. China be selling shiploads of electric blankets to Europe, to help them survive the winter now that so many will struggle to pay their electricity bills.

Originally Posted by sabang

See the pictogram above Hughie. China be selling shiploads of electric blankets to Europe, to help them survive the winter now that so many will struggle to pay their electricity bills.

Yes, we already know the chinkies aren't shy when it comes to exploiting the misery of others. Even more so when they're contributing to it.

What about those merkins and their fracked gas?

Originally Posted by sabang

What about those merkins and their fracked gas?

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Originally Posted by panama hat

it actually doesn't burst into flames

Where's the fun in that?

A recent Cambridge study found that this hostility toward China has been on the rise in recent years not just in Australia but throughout the “liberal democracies” of the US-centralized power alliance. But what’s interesting is that public opinion is exactly reversed in the much larger remainder of the Earth’s population, with people outside the US power cluster just as fond of China as those within that power cluster are hostile toward it. This relationship is largely mirrored with Russia as well.

“Among the 1.2bn people who inhabit the world’s liberal democracies, three-quarters (75%) now hold a negative view of China, and 87% a negative view of Russia,” the report reads. “However, for the 6.3bn people who live in the rest of the world, the picture is reversed. In these societies, 70% feel positively towards China, and 66% positively towards Russia.”


The report finds that in the “developing” world, approval of China is higher than approval of the US:

“For the first time ever, slightly more people in developing countries (62%) are favourable towards China than towards the United States (61%). This is especially so among the 4.6bn people living in countries supported by the Belt and Road Initiative, among whom almost two-thirds hold a positive view of China, compared to just a quarter (27%) in non-participating countries.”

The report finds that while Russia’s approval has plummeted in the west, it maintains broad support in the east despite the invasion of Ukraine:

“However, the real terrain of Russia’s international influence lies outside of the West. 75% of respondents in South Asia, 68% in Francophone Africa, 62% in Southeast Asia continue to view the country positively in spite of the events of this year.”

A puzzling observation in today’s world is that almost no Western leader has laid out a positive vision for the future.
Take Biden for instance. His big vision is “democracies vs autocracies”. Meaning his vision for the future of the world is conflict. How positive is that?

Contrast this with China: between “national rejuvenation” and “common prosperity” at home and the “global security initiative” as their vision for improved international relations; everyone is very clear on the journey they’re embarked on.

FULL- New Study Finds The Rest Of The World Supports China And Russia | by Caitlin Johnstone | Oct, 2022 | Medium


Most interesting.

Originally Posted by sabang

New Study Finds The Rest Of The World Supports China And Russia | by Caitlin Johnstone | Oct, 2022 | Medium

"Peter Bennett" of the "Bennett Institute for Public Policy" who has his fortune in HK and Chinkystan.

A key takeaway hidden in his paid nonsense.

Much of the new fault line is rooted in attitudes towards democracy. “Democratic societies are far more negative towards Russia and China, whereas the reverse is true for more authoritarian societies.

Just fancy that.

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Executive Summary


In this report, we examine how worldwide attitudes towards the major international powers – China, Russia, and the United States – are shifting in the wake of the Ukraine war, China’s rising assertiveness, and recent challenges to American democracy.


We do so by harmonising and merging data from 30 global survey projects that collectively span 137 countries which represent 97% of world population. This includes 75 countries surveyed since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, giving us updated insights into the current views of 83% of all people across the globe.


As a result, our analysis covers not only high-income democracies but also a comprehensive coverage of emerging economies and the Global South – revealing a marked divergence between the two.


On the one hand, western democracies stand more firmly than ever behind the United States. Not only that, but the war in Ukraine has galvanised democratic societies worldwide – as the peoples of upper-income democracies in South America, the Asia-Pacific, and Eastern Europe have also moved to a more pro-American stance.


However, across a vast span of countries stretching from continental Eurasia to the north and west of Africa, we find the opposite – societies that have moved closer to China and Russia over the course of the last decade. As a result, China and Russia are now narrowly ahead of the United States in their popularity among developing countries.


While the war in Ukraine has accentuated this divide, it has been a decade in the making. As a result, the world is torn between two opposing clusters: a maritime alliance of democracies, led by the United States; and a Eurasian bloc of illiberal or autocratic states, centred upon Russia and China.


We suggest that this new cleavage cannot be reduced to simple economic interests or geopolitical convenience. Rather, it follows a clear political and ideological divide. Across the world, the strongest predictors of how societies align respective to China or the United States are their fundamental values and institutions – including beliefs in freedom of expression, personal choice, and the extent to which democratic institutions are practised and perceived to be legitimate.

A World Divided: Russia, China and the West - Bennett Institute for Public Policy

Cambridge University:-

A World Divided: Russia, China and the West - Bennett Institute for Public Policy


Peter Bennett is a philanthropist and Cambridge alumni. He lives in HK. He did not perform the study- he funded the Cambridge institute that carried it out.

When Thai people talk about the Ukraine War, they say the Russians are in the wrong for invading. On the other hand, the government is friendly towards Russia. Thai people don’t hold a high opinion of mainland Chinese but the government wants to have good relations. Whose opinion counts in these reports? The way the government thinks about Russia and China or the people?

Originally Posted by sabang

Cambridge University:-

A World Divided: Russia, China and the West - Bennett Institute for Public Policy


Peter Bennett is a philanthropist and Cambridge alumni. He lives in HK. He did not perform the study- he funded the Cambridge institute that carried it out.

Yes, a bit like the cigarette companies fund "research" into smoking health risks, and big oil funds "research" into climate change.

You really are fucking dumb.

Originally Posted by misskit

When Thai people talk about the Ukraine War, they say the Russians are in the wrong for invading.

Some references would be useful.

Do you talk to Thai people about Russia and Ukraine? If you did, you would know.

Expert: What exactly does the 'Chinese path to modernization' mean?

After Covid Lockdown, Fear and Unrest Sweep iPhone Factory in China

Covid lockdown measures have generated a wave of fear and unrest inside the world’s largest iPhone manufacturing complex, in north-central China, with stories of food shortages among quarantined employees filling social media, and large numbers of workers fleeing the facility.


The plant, operated by Foxconn, the Taiwan-based manufacturing giant with facilities across China, went into lockdown in mid-October as coronavirus cases were rising in Zhengzhou, the capital of Henan Province. Under China’s zero-Covid policies, cities and companies are expected to take strict measures to eliminate transmission of the virus.

As Covid cases began to be detected in the plant, Foxconn shut the facility off from the outside world, walling its roughly 200,000 workers inside its grounds. It banned eating in the factory’s cafeteria, forced employees to take long, circuitous routes from their dormitories to reduce contact with others, and required daily coronavirus testing and temperature checks.


But what really worried workers were accounts that emerged from employees who had been taken into quarantine after testing positive. At the mercy of Foxconn to feed themselves, some said they were getting inadequate food or none at all, and were also lacking other necessities.


As these stories spread on social media, other workers decided they were better off fleeing their job than risk catching the virus and being forced into quarantine. Two workers, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, saying they feared retaliation from the company, said that hundreds of workers had left the plant.


With transportation restricted as Zhenghzou dealt with the outbreak, many had no options but to walk home, some over long distances.


On Wednesday, Zhenghzou officials ordered the region around the plant to go into a seven-day lockdown, imperiling any further attempts to flee. A local notice called the outbreak “serious and complex,” as the city reported 358 new locally transmitted cases on Wednesday, up from 24 on the same day a week before.

Earlier experiences in China, such as those with the Shanghai lockdown earlier this year, suggest that the Zhenghzou measures could extend beyond what was initially announced. Visiting the complex on Tuesday, the province’s governor urged the company to improve the care of its workers.


Apple, the maker of the iPhone, did not respond to a request for comment. In an emailed statement, Foxconn, one of the principal assemblers of Apple products, referred to its pandemic measures as a “protracted battle” and insisted that its workers were receiving three meals a day.


But employees accused Foxconn of a chaotic and at times illogical Covid response. They said that the company had sent workers who tested positive for the coronavirus into quarantine centers together with their close contacts, even when those individuals had tested negative. At the same time, other close contacts were told they must continue working.


Leo Lin, 29, who works inside the factory complex, described an atmosphere of panic as quarantine facilities began to overflow and the factory lost its grip on isolating close contacts.


For years, Zhengzhou, a city of 10 million people, has helped supercharge China’s export-driven economic model. Known as “iPhone City,” it has come to manufacture roughly half of Apple’s global iPhone supply.


The seven-day lockdown announced on Wednesday may hurt Foxconn’s ability to ship iPhones from the plant. China’s economy as a whole is growing at its slowest pace in decades under the government’s policy of preventing infections with strict lockdowns that can shut down entire regions over just a handful of cases.


In a sign of Foxconn’s concern about the exodus of workers, the company last week began offering them an extra $14 a day to continue working. On Tuesday, the company increased the figure to $55 a day, according to an official announcement.


Initially, Foxconn did not allow its workers to leave the facility, but as public outrage mounted on social media, the company relented. One worker told The New York Times that it was unclear whether those who left would keep their jobs or get paid for work already performed.


Gao Mingjun, the daughter of a Foxconn worker, said her mother had not tested positive during the outbreak. But the factory placed her mother in quarantine with a colleague sleeping in the bunk above her. That co-worker later tested positive.


Around 5 p.m. on Saturday, her mother decided to walk the 38 miles back to her home in Xuchang, exiting through the complex’s front gate with about 100 co-workers. Some eight hours later, Ms. Gao called her exhausted mother, asking her to take a break at the side of the road. “Her feet hurt too much, and they were all blistered up,” Ms. Gao said.


At dawn on Sunday, after having walked all night, her mother reached the community center in Xuchang.


“The trek was very long,” Ms. Gao said of her mother’s journey. “She’s definitely not going back to Foxconn.”

After Covid Lockdown, Fear and Unrest Sweep iPhone Factory in China – DNyuz

Originally Posted by misskit

Do you talk to Thai people about Russia and Ukraine? If you did, you would know.

I suspect Thai people avoid him like the plague, as most on here would if they had the misfortune to meet him.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Expert: What exactly does the 'Chinese path to modernization' mean?

Nicking everyone's ideas and making huge profits off selling inferior knock offs, while building loads of hideous "ghost towns" that no-one wants to live in?