Donald Trump : Former POTUS

**S Landreth** · 31-05-2024, 02:12 PM

Guilty-as-sin

**Seekingasylum** · 31-05-2024, 03:47 PM

It really is astonishing that a man so utterly bereft of any honourable instinct, so devoid of any decent scruple, ethic or principle should still command such support from his people.

Truly, American society is getting dragged down into the sewer.

Christ, even Nixon had the decency to put his hands up.

This sack of orange shit is an entirly different species.

And this from the nation that spawned the Roosevelts, Truman, Eisenhower, Carter, Reagan and Obama, a nation that gave birth to the thousands of marines and soldiers who month after month stormed beach after beach for three years in the Pacific incurring 50,000 killed and in Europe where a total of over 150,000 were killed in the name of their leaders whose very lives were a paragon of integrity.

And it now comes to hordes of deadbeat eccentric thugs and morons, an entire race of the lumpen stupid and insurrectionists propping up a demagogue without a vestige of decency.

Truly, God Bless America, home of The Stupid.

**bsnub** · 31-05-2024, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Truly, God Bless America, home of The Stupid.

The orange moron is the only president to have lost two popular votes. So most of us saw right through him, the problem is the electoral college. He is well despised by most of us and this day has been wonderful seeing his MAGA supporters have meltdown after meltdown.

**harrybarracuda** · 08-06-2024, 10:30 PM

If Biden did this Fox would be screaming that the sky is falling.

Donald Trump Mocked Over Arizona-Texas Gaffe - Newsweek

**S Landreth** · 01-07-2024, 09:31 PM

Supreme Court

Trump – Not full immunity

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Kyle Cheney - BREAKING: Donald Trump is immune from criminal charges for official actions but NOT unofficial acts.: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...83490743910708

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...3-939_e2pg.pdf

Trump is immune from prosecution for some acts in federal election case

Donald Trump has immunity from criminal prosecution over some actions he took as president while fighting to subvert the 2020 election, the Supreme Court ruled Monday, further complicating efforts to put Trump on trial in Washington on criminal charges that he engaged in fraud to try to cling to power.

The decision, which divided the court along ideological lines, immediately knocked out some of the central allegations that special counsel Jack Smith leveled against Trump, including claims that he attempted to weaponize his Justice Department to concoct or amplify false claims of voter fraud.

However, the opinion also leaves much unresolved, sending the case back to the trial court for further proceedings. There, U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan must now sift through the allegations to separate Trump’s official acts — those he took in his capacity as president — from private ones, when he was acting as a presidential candidate. That process could further stall the case by months and is likely to push any trial past Election Day.

The opinion from Chief Justice John Roberts declared that former presidents have “absolute” immunity from criminal prosecution over actions that fall within their “core constitutional powers.”

“There is no immunity,” Roberts wrote, for “unofficial acts.”

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Supreme Court rules Trump has immunity for "official acts"

The Supreme Court on Monday ruled that presidents have immunity for "official acts," but punted to lower courts the question of whether former President Trump's alleged conduct in his Jan. 6 case was protected.

Why it matters: The 6-3 decision, though not a sweeping victory for Trump, all but guarantees that his Jan. 6 case won't go to trial before this year's presidential election.

The Supreme Court had delayed its ruling until Monday, the last day of its current term.

Driving the news: A former president is entitled to "absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority opinion.

The former president is entitled to "presumptive immunity" for other official acts but "no immunity for unofficial acts," he added.
It is now up to U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan — who is overseeing Trump's Jan. 6 case — to determine whether the acts Trump is accused of in the indictment are "official" or not.

The other side: The court's three liberal-leaning justices condemned the majority's ruling.

"Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends ... That is the majority's message today," Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.
"The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law," she added.

What they're saying: Trump celebrated the ruling in a Truth Social post Monday, calling it a "big win for our constitution and democracy."

A senior Biden campaign adviser told Axios that the ruling "doesn't change the facts" about Trump's actions around Jan. 6.
Trump "thinks he's above the law and is willing to do anything to gain and hold onto power for himself," they added.

The big picture: The Supreme Court heard oral arguments in April over Trump's argument that ex-presidents cannot be prosecuted for crimes committed while in office.

Trump's team has argued that his actions before the 2020 presidential election were within the "outer perimeter" of the president's official duties.
They also argued that if Trump is not granted blanket immunity, future presidents may be restricted in how they lead out of fear of criminal prosecution after leaving the White House.

Zoom in: The nation's high court appeared poised during the arguments to rule that former presidents have some immunity, but not the "absolute immunity" that Trump is seeking, Axios' Sam Baker reported.

The trial had originally been scheduled to take place earlier this year, but was postponed indefinitely.

State of play: Trump, who was convicted on 34 felony counts in his New York hush money trial in May, has repeatedly sought to delay his three other criminal cases.

If he wins back the White House in November, he could order the Justice Department to drop his federal charges.

Go deeper: Trump's trial trap: Voters to be his most important jury

**helge** · 01-07-2024, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by S Landreth

The other side: The court's three liberal-leaning justices condemned the majority's ruling.

"Let the President violate the law, let him exploit the trappings of his office for personal gain, let him use his official power for evil ends ... That is the majority's message today," Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.
"The relationship between the President and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law," she added.

That's about it, isn't it ?

Rotten system to have an appointed for life 9 seat "privy council" to rule the country.

(I'm sure the other side like it much better when they have the majority)

**helge** · 02-07-2024, 01:20 AM

AOC wants to impeach the Supreme Court

**happynz** · 02-07-2024, 01:45 AM

From what I’ve read, Justices Alito, Kavanaugh, and Thomas are as bent as a dog’s back leg.

**S Landreth** · 02-07-2024, 04:34 AM

Kyle Cheney - NEW: Jack Smith's prosecution of Donald Trump for seeking to subvert the 2020 election is hanging by a thread — still alive but facing nearly insurmountable odds.: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...33304722284794

Trump’s election subversion case heads back to Judge Chutkan. But it may never reach a jury

Donald Trump may never see the inside of a criminal courtroom again.

The Supreme Court’s sweeping ruling that Trump — and all presidents — are immune from prosecution for their “official” actions immediately gutted some of the central allegations that special counsel Jack Smith leveled against Trump a year ago, when he charged the former president with conspiring to subvert the 2020 election. And it may eventually sink the rest of them, too.

**thailazer** · 03-07-2024, 02:47 AM

All hail our new king Lord Trump.

**Salsa dancer** · 05-07-2024, 02:16 PM

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**beachbound** · 16-07-2024, 02:25 AM

Trump picks JD Vance for VP

Aapparently, he has a longer tongue than little Marco, and loves mushroom caps.)

**helge** · 16-07-2024, 02:37 AM

Trump has chosen his vice presidential candidate

J.D. Vance is from Ohio and has three children (Photo: © Jeff Kowalsky, Ritzau Scanpix)

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August Olaf Jersild

Former US President Donald Trump has named his vice-presidential candidate.

It will be 39-year-old Senator James David Vance, who is a senator for the state of Ohio. Donald Trump writes on his social media, Truth Social.

"After a long period of consideration, and taking into account the enormous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of vice president of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance," Donald Trump wrote.

James David Vance has been a senator since 2023. There are presidential elections in the United States in November.

**helge** · 16-07-2024, 02:40 AM

^^
Think I have seen him at some congressional hearing.

Bit of a nutter ?

I'd better read up on him, as he could be the next leader of the "free" world.

They won't miss next time

Is Tulsi Gabbard too sane for a VP nomination ?

**helge** · 16-07-2024, 02:56 AM

Usual bought and owned.

In early 2018, Vance considered running for U.S. Senate against Sherrod Brown,^[36] but decided not to.^[37] In March 2021, Peter Thiel gave $10 million to Protect Ohio Values, a super PAC created in February to support a potential Vance candidacy;^[38]^[39]^[40]Robert Mercer also gave an undisclosed amount.

Lovely

**david44** · 16-07-2024, 03:01 AM

Business a usual from pence to millions mercenary values.

**helge** · 16-07-2024, 03:11 AM

What a bunch of pretentious tossers

Whole lot of Basil Fawltys out there

Shocking and entertaining

**HuangLao** · 16-07-2024, 06:29 AM

Expecting a clear landslide come November.
Temporarily disrupting the oligarch's agendas.

**39TG** · 16-07-2024, 07:51 AM

I understand Vance is hopelessly unqualified to be POTUS. Another awful Trumpster as expected. I hope he doesn't end up in prison. Pence was too smart and experienced to go down that route.

**baldrick** · 16-07-2024, 04:57 PM

Vance has been put there with musk and theil money

**helge** · 17-07-2024, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Vance has been put there with musk and theil money

True

Nothing good to be expected from that side. As to be expected.

How did our fossil union friend do regarding the rail workers strike ?

Get real, Baldrick; just once in a while

**baldrick** · 17-07-2024, 05:37 AM

musk is backspit with billions of dollars who is bankrolling trump

Theil is openly gay and has bankrolled vance who has been proclaiming his anti LBGT credentials to all that will listen

helge is smitten by their words of peace

tax the fcuk out of all the scum

**helge** · 17-07-2024, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

Theil is openly gay and has bankrolled vance

As I posted when I looked up Vance.

He is bought and owned.

When Trump is done, one wway or the other, you'll get your Grand old Party back to normal.

Originally Posted by baldrick

helge is smitten by their words of peace

And you are talking out of your ass.

With a democrat win there will be a guarranteed escalation and more war.

With Trump it's more unclear.

He would be a sucker for a Nobel Peace Prize.

**helge** · 04-08-2024, 11:58 PM

Robert De Niro gets TRUMPED! (youtube.com)

**david44** · 05-08-2024, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by helge

Robert De Niro gets TRUMPED! (youtube.com)

Do you issue refunds venner.I'll never have that 10 seconds again, I am minded to only open your links whilst multi tasking in the bathroom if you cannot rehillbillytate yourself.

I usually enjoy controverslialist like snubby Cy Chitty BLS SA or Tax or even small doses ofLongway the ideal laxative but you are moving towards the Spermdreath end of the spectrum which I dare not open to tampon my synapses.

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