Eurasia Topics

**Klondyke** · 11-12-2020, 01:36 PM

^Perhaps there is now a shortage of that merchandise since the Kosovo's president has been in Haag...

**panama hat** · 11-12-2020, 01:46 PM

And perhaps you're just talking utter shit again.

Actually, can the 'perhaps', it's superfluous

**helge** · 11-12-2020, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

Doctors from leading Chinese hospitals admitted in undercover phone calls that organs harvested from Falun Gong detainees were available, an informal, independent “people’s tribunal” has disclosed.

Really disgusting

Reminds me of the "free market harvesting" that goes on in India, where the country's poor masses are selling off kidneys to the more well off.

Different methods; both shit

**Klondyke** · 11-12-2020, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by panama hat

And perhaps you're just talking utter shit again.

Actually, can the 'perhaps', it's superfluous

Actually, my talking lacking of such matter-fact-comments of you enhanced with the words I cannot find in Webster.

But can we believe MSM before they became fully "recognized"?

Kosovo PM is head of human organ and arms ring, Council of Europe reports
This article is more than 9 year old

Two-year inquiry accuses Albanian 'mafia-like' crime network of killing Serb prisoners for their kidneys

Kosovo PM is head of human organ and arms ring, Council of Europe reports | World news | The Guardian

**helge** · 11-12-2020, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Two-year inquiry accuses Albanian 'mafia-like' crime network of killing Serb prisoners for their kidneys

Why doesn't that surprise either ?

It's scum like that, who are invited to join the EU

**OhOh** · 11-12-2020, 03:10 PM

Assertive Germany muddles Iran issue

December 10, 2020 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR

"Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s Foreign Minister, in a speech in Moscow on December 8 dwelt on the western attempts lately to maintain the model of a unipolar world order. He said the European Union’s dalliance with the idea of itself being a pole in a multipolar system is dissipating and warned of Germany’s recent policies in the direction of preserving “its claims to full leadership” of the EU.

Indeed, with Britain’s exit from the EU and France embroiled in domestic crisis, Germany’s time has come to assume the leadership of Europe. A disconcerting template here is Germany’s aggressive return to militarism. Only last month, German Defence Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer called for a major increase in military spending in spite of the coronavirus pandemic.

German militarism had been lying dormant for decades. Lest it be forgotten, the Bundeswehr (German armed forces) at its founding in 1955, had 44 generals and admirals sworn in who all belonged previously to Hitler’s Wehrmacht, above all from its general staff. Of the 14,900 professional soldiers who made up the officers corps in 1959, there were 12,360 Wehrmacht officers, 300 of whom came from the leadership of the dreaded SS.

No doubt, Germany did well to keep its head below the parapet and conceal the fact of the Bundeswehr being a continuity of the Wehrmacht. Way back in 2005, Spiegel magazine wrote, “Today the Bundeswehr has become one of the most powerful tools available to German foreign-policy makers. Since reunification, the once cumbersome organisation has undergone a process of constant streamlining, modernisation and technical upgrading… Bundeswehr… is evolving from a defence force into an interventionist army.”

Indeed, in the most recent years, the traditions of the German ruling elite and its militarism have begun to emerge. We are witnessing the transformation of the Bundeswehr into a war machine capable of defending German interests around the world.

In a speech last month to commemorate the 65th anniversary of the Bundeswehr’s founding, President Frank-Walter Steinmeier said that even under the incoming Joe Biden presidency, Europe will not be as important to the US as it used to be, and, therefore, “I see our country as having a dual responsibility” — German leadership of Europe and a stronger role for Berlin within NATO.

The German defence budget was already increased last year by 10 percent. Steinmeier said in justification that soldiers have “a right to be equipped with the best possible kit this country can provide them, equipment that provides them with the best possible protection and enables them to fulfil the mission defined by the political sphere.”

Steinmeier said, “The experiences of soldiers who … served in combat, where they were wounded physically or psychologically … form part of our experiences. Their battles are our battles, even if indeed peace prevails here in Germany. This is not merely something we can expect of our society. It should also be important to our society. Society owes you this empathy and interest.”

Traditions chillingly reminiscent of the 1930s are surfacing — the ruling elite urging the entire German nation to identify with militarism. The implications of all this will become clear in German policies.

In immediate terms, the EU stance on the situation around Iran is becoming crucial. Germany’s attitude toward the Iran nuclear issue has undergone change, hinting at a possibly new EU policy that seeks to achieve what the US president Donald Trump failed to achieve through the so-called “maximum pressure” campaign.

In an interview with Der Spiegel earlier in the month, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said, “A return to the previous (2015 Iran nuclear) agreement will not suffice anyway. There will have to be a kind of ‘nuclear agreement plus,’ which is also in our interest. We have clear expectations of Iran: no nuclear weapons, but also no ballistic missile program that threatens the entire region. Iran also needs to play a different role in the region. We need this agreement precisely because we distrust Iran. I have already coordinated with my French and British counterparts on this.”

This is the first time that a German foreign minister has explicitly called for a “better” deal with Iran. Meanwhile, Miguel Berger, secretary of state of the German foreign office, reinforced Maas’s message by pledging a “firm reaction” to Iran’s role in the region “with sanctions if necessary.”

Significantly, these remarks were likewise made in the context of a need for an “updated” nuclear agreement with Iran. It is a hypocritical stance, since Germany had failed to honour its commitments under the 2015 agreement and is well aware of Iran’s wariness to enter into any new talks with the West due to its experience of other signatories reneging on the nuclear deal.

Fundamentally, Germany seems to be apprehensive about a strong Iran, which might stand in the way of its own future expansionism in the regions surrounding Iran. Germany knows fully well that Iran is not after acquiring nuclear weapons, while on the contrary, Germany’s own plans to move in the direction of developing nuclear missiles at some point remain an open issue.

Suffice to say, Germany is not only not ready to engage substantively with Iran, but appears to be also not in any hurry to push for a swift US return to the Iran nuclear deal. There is no other logical explanation for the recent joint statement of December 7 by the E3 (Germany, France and UK), which is not at all helpful under the prevailing circumstances where the priority lies in the Joe Biden Administration taking tangible steps that break the stalemate and allowing negotiations to commence as early as possible.

Without doubt, Germany has further complicated the situation by demanding new concessions from Iran concerning other “non-nuclear” issues such as Iran’s ballistic missile program and its regional influence that did not form part of the 2015 agreement. If Germany were to have acted in good faith, it should have focused its messaging on encouraging Biden to rejoin the 2015 agreement swiftly and unconditionally.

Meanwhile, on December 3, Germany delivered to Israel the first of four advanced German-made warships equipped with rocket and missile defence systems, anti-aircraft and anti-ship missiles, torpedoes and an upgraded launching pad for Israel’s newest attack helicopters. The Israeli military chief Lt. Gen. Aviv Kohavi, called them “one of the most advanced war machines in the world, which poses a significant leap forward in the Israeli military’s ability to ensure our strength at sea and in naval operations.”

The bottom line is that Germany is rejecting the objective trends towards the formation of a multipolar world. Its game plan is on the one hand to lead the EU with European sovereignty as its motto, while on the other hand to strengthen the European pillar of the NATO, which enables Germany to pursue a security policy in areas from the Sahel to the Mediterranean and the Near and Middle East. Germany will define its regional policy interests together with the US but in a balanced partnership with a greater role in political decision-making.

https://indianpunchline.com/assertiv...es-iran-issue/

**OhOh** · 11-12-2020, 03:18 PM

Is Saudi Arabia Backing Away from Normalization with Israel?

"In a recently held regional security conference in Bahrain, something unusual happened: Saudi representative went on to criticize Israel and linked Saudia-Israel normalization with the resolution of the Palestinian question. This has largely been seen as a set-back to the smooth going normalization process between Israel and the Gulf states. The UAE and Bahrain (and Sudan) have already recognized Israel. It is expected that the Saudis are would be the next. The impression received a major boost when Israeli officials leaked the news of a secret meeting between Saudia’s Muhammad bin Salman (MBS) and Israel’s Netanyahu. It looked obvious that the two states were well on their way to announcing a ‘peace deal.’ Its prospects, however, have changed in the wake of Prince Turki Al-Faisal’s remarks at the regional security conference in Bahrain. Many believe that the Saudis are backing away; others think that Faisal, who is close to King Salman, deliberately criticized Israel on behalf of the King, who is not happy with his son’s normalization approach. With some analysts going as far as to suggest that Israel is triggering a ‘civil war’ in Saudi Arabia.

That Saudi Arabia is backing away or Israel is triggering a ‘civil war’ between the father and the son appear too far-fetched from what the Saudis are actually doing. To begin with, secret relations between Israel and the Gulf states, including Saudia, are not new. The Abraham Accords are, in fact, only a culmination of the secret ties that these states had been developing for past many years. Why would Saudi Arabia, who is still keeping it secret, back away from it now?

Why would King Salman get in a disagreement with his son over an issue that has been in the royal palaces for quite some time already?

An answer to these questions lies in the fact that the Saudis are neither backing away from the normalization process, nor is there a ‘Royal civil war’ in Saudia. The Saudis are just buying some time before they normalize relations with Israel. A Saudi recognition of Israel will be nothing short of a cataclysmic event, one that could trigger massive anti-Saudi waves across the Muslim word, eroding the prestige that Saudia holds as the centre of the Muslim world; hence, the necessity of having more countries recognise Israel first.

The Saudis have accordingly been pressuring other powerful Muslim states to follow the UAE, Bahrain, and Sudan. Pakistani officials recently confirmed, without naming any country, that they are facing pressure to recognise Israel and establish diplomatic relations. There is no gainsaying that no other state could put such pressure on Pakistan than the Saudis and the UAE.

Pakistan, for decades, has been subjected to the Saudi lead of covert relations with Israel. Since early 2000s, some former Pakistani diplomats have confirmed, there has been a consistent pressure on Pakistan by some Gulf states to establish indirect relations with Israel. It was yet again confirmed by Pakistan’s Prime Minister himself when he said in a recent interview that he was “under pressure” from some “friendly countries” to recognize Israel but that Pakistan would not budge until the Israel-Palestinian issue was resolved.

It is quite reasonable to believe that Pakistani PM would not mention this “pressure” if it was coming from an ordinary friendly state. Only Saudi Arabia and the UAE have that clout because of periodic financial assistance they provide to Pakistan to manage its perennial economic crisis, and because of the presence of hundreds of thousands of Pakistan workers in these countries, who are Pakistan’s biggest source of foreign remittances.

If there was a ‘civil war’ in Saudi Arabi and the Kingdom was backing away from the normalization process, they wouldn’t have put pressure on Pakistan to recognize Israel. Instead, they would have used countries like Pakistan to demonize the whole process.

This hasn’t happened because the path to normalization remains very much open. Both King Salman and MBS, too, remain close. It remains that both father and son have been able to come out of many crisis situations that the Kingdom has faced in past few years, including the devastating war in Yemen [an MBS adventure], attacks inside Saudia on its oil facilities [because of the war in Yemen], the murder of Jamal Khashoggi inside Saudi consulate in Turkey and the Gulf crisis [boycott of Qatar] and extremely bad relations with Turkey.

For both MBS and King Salman, the imperative remains normalization with Israel in a way that does them minimum damage. A dozen other Muslim countries recognizing Israel will ‘normalise’ Saudi recognition of Israel and insulate it against any criticism and internal upheavals.

Recognition and normalization remains important for the Saudis also because of the fact that both Saudia and Israel no longer have that ally in the White House who could actually hold Iran and even attack it. Both Saudia and Israel, therefore, need each other. At the same time, Joe Biden has already said that his administration will reverse much of Trump’s appeasement of Saudi Arabia and his hostile policies towards Iran. This reversal would affect the Saudis as much as the Israelis; hence, the underlying logic of their at least a decade old secret relations remains very much alive.

The Saudis are, therefore, not backing away; they appear to be making small adjustments and slowing down the pace of the process to normalise the matter at popular level. In other words, their strategy is allowing the Abraham Accords to sink in across the Muslim world before they take any potential step forward."

Is Saudi Arabia Backing Away from Normalization with Israel? | New Eastern Outlook

**harrybarracuda** · 11-12-2020, 03:36 PM

An answer to these questions lies in the fact that the Saudis are neither backing away from the normalization process, nor is there a ‘Royal civil war’ in Saudia.

I wouldn't expect a "Royal civil war" in a fucking airline, you absolute mong.

**harrybarracuda** · 11-12-2020, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

We need this agreement precisely because we distrust Iran.

And that's because Iran can't be trusted.

**panama hat** · 11-12-2020, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Assertive Germany

Oh noooooooo . . . and that scares the shit out of fuckwits like you and the Loondyke, doesn't it.

Also, the Europeans and re-instating their request to have stolen Chinese territory returned to them.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Two-year inquiry accuses Albanian 'mafia-like' crime network of killing Serb prisoners for their kidneys

And? Do you find anyone here arguing for them? No. Do you know why? Because only you and WaahWaah are utterly one-sided fuckwits.

Originally Posted by helge

It's scum like that, who are invited to join the EU

Yup, disgusting

**OhOh** · 12-12-2020, 11:56 AM

US called world's 'most disruptive factor'

By ZHANG YUNBI | China Daily | Updated: 2020-12-12 07:06

"The United States has become "the most disruptive factor" in the international system, and it is high time the retrogression created by US anti-China forces comes to an end, State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi said.
Wang made the remark when delivering a keynote speech that included a retrospective of China's diplomacy this year and its New Year's resolutions at an annual seminar in Beijing on the international situation and Chinese diplomacy.
Wang also expressed hope that the two largest economies "will surely be able to find a path of peaceful coexistence" as long as they seek objectivity, reason, mutual understanding and convergence of interests.

The China-US relationship is in its "most challenging situation" in the past four decades, and the US has gone farther along the path of unilateralism while the world needs unity and cooperation more than ever, Wang said.

He criticized the US anti-China forces for slandering and demonizing China in every possible way and for stoking ideological confrontation in an attempt to stoke a new Cold War.
If such people persist in this retrogressive way, they will damage or even ruin US credibility, jeopardize world peace and stability and eventually be rejected by the world and by history, Wang said.
The China-US relationship has a complexity that goes far beyond the bilateral scope, he said. The situation involves choices such as multilateralism or unilateralism, progression or retrogression, justice or hegemony, Wang said.

When envisioning China's plan next year for building of a new type of international relations, Wang said it is necessary for China and the US to rebuild a strategic framework for the sound and stable growth of bilateral ties.

The two nations should meet halfway and make concerted efforts in this regard, and they need to restart dialogues, reopen cooperation and rebuild mutual trust, Wang said.
"China stands ready to open up dialogues on an equal footing with the US at all levels and in all areas to promote sincere, in-depth and constructive exchanges," Wang said.

It is high time for the two sides to coordinate and cooperate on COVID-19 responses to defeat the virus, and they should step up communication on major issues including the global economy, climate change, counterterrorism and cyberspace, Wang said.

On developing China's ties with Russia, Wang called on strengthening bilateral strategic coordination and forging a China-Russia pillar that supports world peace, security and global strategic stability.

For enhancing strategic mutual trust between China and the European Union, Wang proposed nourishing more consensus on the promotion of multilateralism, free trade and tackling climate change.
Wang said that to accelerate the recovery of a world economy impacted by pandemic, China will boost opening up to the outside world, oppose and boycott protectionism of any form, work for a stable and smooth global supply and industrial chain, and speed up the building of Silk Road ties to promote health, the digital economy and green development.

To catalyze international and regional cooperation, China will boost the momentum of regional stability and cooperation, push for enacting the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership free trade deal as soon as possible and live up to its commitment to offer COVID-19 vaccines as global public goods once the research and development are successful.

China will continue to adhere to multilateralism, work with all parties to formulate rules for global digital governance and promote the establishment of a more fair and inclusive global governance system, he said.

The country also will further enhance mutual understanding, continue to promote the building of a community with a shared future for mankind and push countries to transcend differences in ideology, social systems and stages of development, he added."

US called world's 'most disruptive factor' - World - Chinadaily.com.cn

**OhOh** · 12-12-2020, 12:00 PM

Major oil pipeline set to help fuel Niger's growth

By EDITH MUTETHYA in Nairobi | China Daily Global | Updated: 2020-12-10 10:18

"The 1,950-kilometer Niger-Benin oil pipeline, constructed by the China National Petroleum Corporation, is expected to increase Niger's oil production from the current 20,000 barrels a day to 120,000 barrels in 2024.The $7 billion pipeline that is seen as a symbol of hope, upon which several major development projects depend, is set to transport crude oil to global markets, via the port of Seme on the coast of Benin from Niger's oil-prolific Agadem basin.

According to the African Energy Chamber, Niger's overall growth rates are expected to reach double digits for the decade after the completion of the pipeline in 2024.

The chamber said the pipeline also symbolizes the likelihood of greater explorations in the West African country.
Already, Savannah Energy, a leading African-focused British independent energy company with operations in Nigeria and Niger, has made five oil discoveries from five exploration wells in the Agadem Rift Basin, with a combined estimate of 6.7 billion barrels of oil initially in place in its two licenses.

The company has also identified a large exploration prospect inventory, consisting of 146 additional prospects and leads to be considered for potential drilling activity.

Several other companies are currently negotiating with the government to secure exploration licenses in the country.

"Niger's success is being closely watched by oil companies who in the past have paid less attention to the search for hydrocarbons in the Sahel. This is likely to change, with the successful completion of the pipeline," the African Energy Chamber said in a statement.

The laying of the pipeline is in line with a plan to drill 430 wells and build a treatment center in Koulele and a dehydration station in Dibella, according to the chamber.

China National Petroleum Corporation was contracted to construct the pipeline along with the West African Oil Pipeline Company.

The Chinese company received upstream approval of the project from Niger's government in June 2018 and later signed the pipeline construction and operation agreement with the government of Benin in August 2019.

The project is the largest cross-border crude pipeline of its kind invested by the company in Africa. Some 1,300 kilometers of the pipeline, the first phase of the project, will run within Niger and is estimated to cost $4.5 billion.

Construction works－involving surface infrastructure－on the project kicked off in September 2019.
However, the work was disrupted amid the coronavirus pandemic, interfering with the initial plan to commission the project by the end of 2021.

According to the African Energy Chamber, the project is expected to create 5,000 jobs. It will also comprise seven electricity stations and a new airport at Koulele.

China National Petroleum Corporation has been carrying out oil and gas businesses in Niger since 2003.The company owns and operates two exploration and development blocks in Niger-Block Bilma and Block Tenere.
It owns a 100 percent holding in Block Bilma and an 80 percent holding in Block Tenere, while TG World of Canada owns the remaining 20 percent.

The company also owns 60 percent of the Zinder refinery in southern Niger. The facility that has an annual throughput capacity of 1 million tons produces gasoline, diesel, fuel oil and liquefied petroleum gas, for domestic consumption.
According to Niger's government, oil accounts for 4 percent of the country's gross domestic product and the figure is expected to rise to 24 percent by 2022.

The African Energy Chamber attributes Niger's increasing investments to its political stability that has given investors more confidence in the safety of their investments.

The chamber also projects that a successful transfer of power in the next general elections will increase the country's attractiveness to investors.

Major oil pipeline set to help fuel Niger's growth - World - Chinadaily.com.cn

Build some infrastructure and the countries citizens are lifted out of poverty.

**OhOh** · 12-12-2020, 12:06 PM

Bloomberg: China's Nov exports up by most since early 2018

chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-12-11 11:09

SAIC Motor's MG-branded electric vehicles await loading at a port in Shanghai. [Photo provided to chinadaily.com.cn] "China's exports jumped in November by the most since early 2018, Bloomberg said in its Dec 7 report titled China's Exports Surge in Year-End Rush as Pandemic Fuels Demand.

Chinese companies shipped $268 billion in goods in November, the most for any single month and more than 21 percent higher than the same month last year, according to Bloomberg.

"The export boom is one of the biggest economic surprises this year regarding China's outlook," with the country benefiting from effective containment of the virus and strong Christmas orders, said Zhou Hao, an economist at Commerzbank AG in Singapore.

Global demand had started recovering before a resurgence in virus cases in some of China's biggest export markets, including the US and Europe -- a development which could further fuel demand for Chinese-made personal protective gear and work-from-home devices, Bloomberg reported.

Leading indicators of trade, such as freight shipping costs and export orders in Chinese purchasing managers surveys have remained strong, suggesting the solid export performance can be sustained into the new year, Bloomberg said.

In addition, auto sales rose for a fifth straight month in China, fueling optimism that demand for electric cars from the likes of Tesla Inc grows, Bloomberg said in its Dec 8 story titled Electric Cars Lead as China Auto Sales Rise for Fifth Month.

Tesla sold 21,604 locally made vehicles in China in November, signaling a record month for Elon Musk's carmaker, Bloomberg said according to the China Passenger Car Association. The US company ranked third in new energy vehicle sales, trailing SAIC-GM Wuling Automobile Co and BYD, which sell less expensive models.

Tesla also said on Oct 20 it is starting Model 3 exports from China to markets including Germany, France and Switzerland.
Retail sales of cars, SUVs and multiple-purpose vehicles gained 7.8 percent from a year earlier to 2.11 million units in November, Bloomberg reported citing CPCA on Tuesday. Wholesale new energy vehicles, including electric cars, more than doubled to 169,000 units.

Bloomberg: China's Nov exports up by most since early 2018 - Chinadaily.com.cn

China’s Exports Surge in Year-End Rush as Pandemic Fuels Demand - Bloomberg

**panama hat** · 12-12-2020, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

US called world's 'most disruptive factor'

By ZHANG YUNBI | China Daily |

**harrybarracuda** · 12-12-2020, 05:23 PM

Oh dear, the chinkies will be jolly unhappy with Peru.

Peru has temporarily suspended clinical trials of a Covid vaccine made by Chinese drug giant Sinopharm after detecting neurological problems in one of its test volunteers.

The National Institute of Health said on Friday that it had decided to interrupt the trial after a volunteer had difficulty moving their arms, according to local media.

"Several days ago we signalled, as we are required, to the regulatory authorities that one of our participants (in trials) presented neurological symptoms which could correspond to a condition called Guillain-Barre syndrome," said chief researcher German Malaga in comments to the press.

Guillain-Barre syndrome is a rare and non-contagious disorder which affects the movement of the arms and legs.

https://www.trtworld.com/americas/pe...-effects-42293

**harrybarracuda** · 12-12-2020, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Major oil pipeline set to help fuel Niger's growth

Niger was already being "belt and owed" back in 2017. I wonder how much they owe the chinky parasites now?

**harrybarracuda** · 12-12-2020, 05:52 PM

Here we go again.

Bloomberg say things about the chinkies that Mr. Shithole doesn't like....

Trouble is afoot in China’s $15trn bond market, says Rebecca Choong Wilkins on Bloomberg. State-owned firms once enjoyed an implicit state guarantee, precluding defaults. Yet in recent years Beijing has allowed more to default. The aim is to allow debt markets to function normally and price risk more efficiently, but there have been surprises along the way. Last month Yongcheng Coal & Electricity became the tenth state firm to default this year when it missed a payment on a ¥1bn (£114m) bond, says The Economist. The news rocked markets as Yongcheng had recently been given a “top-notch” credit rating and was well connected to the powers that be. Debt offerings designed to raise “at least ¥20bn” were then paused as investors scrambled to work out what was going on.

So how does Mr. Shithole put the frighteners on Bloomberg to try and silence them? You've got it: More made up charges.

China: Bloomberg News Beijing bureau staff member detained over suspicion of national security

China: Bloomberg News Beijing bureau staff member detained over suspicion of national security - IFJ

**helge** · 13-12-2020, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

. I wonder how much they owe the chinky parasites now?

Have you ever wondered who owns the rest of the debt in the third world, or doesn't that really have your interest ?

**Klondyke** · 13-12-2020, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I wonder how much they owe the chinky parasites now?

Originally Posted by helge

Have you ever wondered who owns the rest of the debt in the third world, or doesn't that really have your interest ?

A good question for the one who "likes" the facts...

**panama hat** · 13-12-2020, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

A good question for the one who "likes" the facts...

As opposed to you who wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the arse

**harrybarracuda** · 13-12-2020, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by helge

Have you ever wondered who owns the rest of the debt in the third world, or doesn't that really have your interest ?

Have you ever wondered what that debt is accrued for, you fucking simpleton.

**OhOh** · 13-12-2020, 01:38 PM

On "Messages".

"Andrei Raevsky (The Saker) wrote a superb piece NATO and EU sending "messages to Russia", in which he states:

Then there is NATO which now seems to believe that mantric incantations and some really dumb military “for show” activities along the borders of Russia will terrify the Kremlin and turn Russians into Poles. Apparently, the entire analytical apparatus of NATO has never opened a history book. Either that, or they have decided to ignore the lessons of history, because “this time around” the Russians will definitely surrender. To be fair, all the military operations along the Russian border bother the Russians only because they show that the “collective West” still hates and fears Russia. But in purely military terms, they are a joke.

Russians are keenly aware of that and are merely doing their due diligence by responding to NATO's "messages" with their own, such as today, with Vladimir Monomakh demonstrating that it has zero problems launching four Bulava's from Pacific towards the West, namely from the bastion in the Sea of Okhotsk at the range Chizha in Arkhangelsk region, way-way within the 9,000 kilometers (official) range of Bulava SLBMs.

Just a reminder, RSM-56 Bulava carries between 6 to 10 MIRVs, each 100-150 kilotons, which with a clinical accuracy can reach any European capital even when launched by Pacific Fleet SSBNs. In fact, if to consider that four Bulavas have been launched in a very tight sequence, we are looking at 4x6=24 or 4x10=40 MIRVs reminding European part of NATO that rearranging stones in Europe could be done by a wide variety of methods if NATO decides to commit a suicide. So, the message for Europeans (that is why a direction of the salvo--from East to West) is clear. This is the first such a salvo from Project 955 Borei SSBN in terms of shooting Bulavas from East to West. As results show--they fly just fine and hit targets as expected.
Andrei arrives to a correct conclusion:

At the core of it all, there is a cultural difference: Europeans (and nevermind their US bosses!) are not really afraid of war. That is why they are not really prepared for it at all. The Russians are very, very afraid of war, because they know and remember it. This is why the West is all threats and no action, while Russia is all actions and no threats. From the Russian point of view, the best way to avoid war is to really, really prepare for it. One could argue that 1000 years of Russian history were a never ending lesson in preparation for war, especially since most wars fought by Russia were existential.

I will only add to it, that the fear of war in Russia grows with understanding of the fact that Western "elites" are a bunch of clowns who, far from knowing what war is, do not even have a grasp of basic governing principles. They, sure as hell, are very good at creating laughable doctrines, be that in economic or military fields, but in practice they are proverbial monkeys with the grenade. So, in this case, reminding those elites, be them sitting in Brussels or in D.C. that should they do a stupid thing they will be blown to smithereens, everything and everyone dear to them included, is one of the first orders of business for Russia. As Al Capone used to say "You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." Simple as that, especially when you have to deal with desperate retards who are guided by a variety of psychiatric disorders because they can not get their way. Plus, how you make any conversation, forget signing any treaties, with the country which cannot even elect its president without total corruption and subversion of electoral process? Who do you talk to?

Main issue today is the safety of the US nuclear arsenal, because the possibility of US literal disintegration into several states, or localities, is by now means excluded. Hopefully this will not come to that, but even if Biden is declared POTUS, his "foreign policy team" is Obama's team and these are utterly unqualified people with little skills but, surely, very high opinion about themselves, as it is generally the case with most American politicos, who are, as a rule, very uncultured and badly educated. The trend on deterioration of the "quality" of the elites is very pronounced and that means a steady lowering of the awareness threshold in so far as the recognition of the factors leading towards possible war goes among US decision-makers. This is a problem for Russia's military-political top--American elites are not rational, as Dmitry Orlov correctly points out. So, we have to wait and see how this whole third-worldization of America plays out. Meanwhile, one has got to do what one has got to do and respond to messages with messages of its own. In fact, as Russians say (in different iterations)--we don't need your respect, we are fine with you fearing us. I agree, even the most insane patients can recognize the feel of a baton of the orderly in the asylum when it hits their limbs or backs. And that is good enough for now, everything else is after the patient is locked up in the padded room, then the course of treatment could be discussed."

https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/202...-messages.html

**Backspin** · 13-12-2020, 01:49 PM

^

**Backspin** · 13-12-2020, 01:51 PM

Also today (not sure if its related)

Ramstein Air Base In Germany Experiences Potential Incoming Missile Scare

It remains unclear exactly who caused the scare and where the supposed launch emanated from.

Ramstein Air Base In Germany Experiences Potential Incoming Missile Scare

**panama hat** · 13-12-2020, 01:56 PM

Wealth accrued . . . such a good man of the people. Will he head off to the US? UK? Argentina? Brazil? when he 'retires'?

Xi Jinping net worth

$1.51 billion in gbp ( £1.2 billion )

Chinese politician has an estimated net worth of $1.51 billion.B

How did he make his billions?

Born on June 15, 1953, in Beijing, Jinping is currently the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China, President of the People’s Republic of China, and Chairman of the Central Military Commission.
Jinping is the son of Xi Zhongxun, a leader in the 1949 Communist takeover of China.

Xi Jinping net worth - Spear's Magazine

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