This and the Trump thread are a bit like having two Pavlov's Dogs each with a buzzer to ring
Naw, everyone of importance in th EU wants a 2nd referendum which appears currently will be a vote to remain. May's "deal" is DOA and the EU will do nothing to help fix it. Her only option is to run through the time consuming process of holding another referendum. Parliament will support it and the EU will gladly extend the drop dead date both figuring the vote will be remain. Win/win for both with the only price being several million butthurt Brexiters
My money remains on a 2nd referendum.
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...lly-impossible
Tory MP plans to scupper possibility of no deal Brexit.
You can’t even get simple stuff right. I support leaving the crippled and profligate union that has control freakery at the centre of everything it does.
The last thing UK needs is being directed by broken fools like you, and those you claim to support.
For the benefit of any reader who does not understand the intricacies of a second referendum. It will never happen. There is neither the time nor the support for it. Even if it were, by some miracle to happen, the result is by no means a foregone conclusion, and any result would lead to greater confusion and further instability.
with less than 10 weeks to go, the timescale for a credible referendum has now passed.
forget about REF2, let's focus on hard brexit, and prepaparing for it
it's going to be 4th July and Bastille day at the same time, a lot of fireworks and happy people
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Highest number of posts in this thread. More than double everyone else except for BB. Give DF a few more days and I'm sure he'll remedy that. He might even say something new or interesting.
* Just kidding on the last part.
It's amazing that with such a golden opportunity to wind people up that he falls so pitifully short.
^^ My post seems to have annoyed the little Belgian delicacy. He sent me a red. Ooh la la.
No, it was rather more prosaic than that. Almost British yoof in its simplicity; "fuck off Brexitshitter"
But he added a smilie to sweeten the message.
Jolly good news chaps- the empire in returning! This is distinctly unlikely, I can't think of one fallen empire than managed to return to full power. Okay, I lie- the Klingons did a fantastic job.
What is it with remoaners and empires? No one who supports Brexit wants to go round invading countries and warmongering, that's your liberal elite people like Blair who funnily enough is a remoaner.
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2017 - Liam Fox. Conservative Party, Secretary of State for International Trade and President of the Board of Trade:
"We're going to replicate the 40 EU free trade agreements that exist before we leave the European Union so we've got no disruption of trade,"
"I hear people saying 'oh we won't have any [free trade agreements] before we leave'. Well, believe me, we'll have up to 40 ready for one second after midnight in March 2019," he told cheering Conservative activists.
The Trade Secretary added that "All these faint hearts saying we cannot do it — it's absolute rubbish."
Anand Menon, the director of the Brexit thinktank UK in a Changing EU during BBC Question TimeI think it is very, very important to be clear about a no deal. No deal isn't like buying something.
It isn't like going to a shop and if you don't find anything you don't like you walk home again. You don't end up back where you started.
No deal with the European Union means all the laws that govern our interaction with the EU, whether you can fly, whether you can trade,
whether you can shop, whether you can travel, cease to exist.
I don't know what people voted for when they voted to leave, they voted for lots of different reasons and they were told by the leave campaign that a deal would be easy and I don't believe all of them voted for no deal.
If you think no deal is fine, that's great but be aware of what it means. It means severe disruption and, from the EU's point of view, you are absolutely right, a no deal will hurt the Europeans in Calais, in Belgium, in Amsterdam.
One of the reasons the EU has remained united is that some member states don't trade with us so they've got better things to worry about but no deal will hit us far worse than it will hit them.
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No-deal isn't a viable option, as many keep saying. It is not even a bargaining chip. It is nothing but an empty threat that would leave everyone that is anyone fooked.
No-deal fits only for the loons and swivel-eyed.
The only sensible decision is to remain in the EU. Now all the politicians need to do is their job by explaining this to the electorate in simple terms.
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