Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Meanwhile the EU continues to fund the Russian war machine by relying on their greatest enemy for their energy needs, despite being told years ago this would end in tears. Their Answer? Nordstream 2. Now that went well. Even the German president with surprising candor admitted Frau Merkel fucked it up. How they couldn't see that when blind freddie could is a mystery and a monumental fuck up. Meanwhile they will have to deal with Vlads mate, an even more powerful recalcitrant Orban. A stone in the EU shoe. Then there is pro Russian Serbia waiting to join, along with a few other dirt poor eastern european countries that will be even more of a drain on EU finances, no doubt accompanied by an increase in civil/public servant parasites..

Oh, that '____________wants to join' nonsense again.

Do you not remember all the bs about Turkey?

Of course dodgy countries and leaders want to join the EU. It doesn't mean they have a chance of doing so.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

Meanwhile the EU continues to fund the Russian war machine by relying on their greatest enemy for their energy needs, despite being told years ago this would end in tears. Their Answer? Nordstream 2. Now that went well. Even the German president with surprising candor admitted Frau Merkel fucked it up. How they couldn't see that when blind freddie could is a mystery and a monumental fuck up. Meanwhile they will have to deal with Vlads mate, an even more powerful recalcitrant Orban. A stone in the EU shoe. Then there is pro Russian Serbia waiting to join, along with a few other dirt poor eastern european countries that will be even more of a drain on EU finances, no doubt accompanied by an increase in civil/public servant parasites..

What a load of total absolute garbage. First, if Germany and France went over the heads of the US like they had the power to, and made a treaty that Ukraine would not be joining Nato, there would be no war. But they didn't. Because people in London and DC wanted this war.

Second, Russia is not threatening to shut any gas off and never has.

Third, Russia's war will continue regardless of whether or not one more cubic meter of gas gets shipped to Germany.

Forth, There is no way around Russian gas. Its the simple laws of economics. The gas is too cheap. Even if Germany bans Russian gas, Russian gas will just get shipped to a third country like Turkey, who will resell it to Germany. This already happens now with countries that have banned it.

Why do you think Russian gas flowed endlessly through the cold war ?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Observing Brexiteers eructing their dogma and bigotry never fails to amuse. Huge Cow

However hard you try to come to terms with the democratic decision of the british people, the brexit itch and the resultant disgruntlement you feel will gnaw away at you like an infected chancre until your dying day.

The escape from thailand, thevresettlement in portugal, the borderless tours of the vineyards of europe, the free healthcare, the good life, tis all but a disappearing mirage in your shattered hopes and fading dreams.

p.s. hows life in where is it again, sukhumvit soi 4?

I cannot come to terms with arrant stupidity, to do so is to accept its dominion. You Tax may choose to paddle in the shallow end of intellectual acuity but I do not.

Brexiteers, Brexit apologists and Brexit bigots are dross no different to the lumpen Russian hordes festering in their bothies sucking up Putin propaganda - untermensch too fucking stupid to distinguish night from day.

I assume you are now back in your Hua Hin dormitory bathchair easing your buttocks and girding your loins in the tropical airs?

Britain is, for better or worse, free from the EU jackboot, and I am confident that it is for the better. History will show it was the right thing to do.

Yes we are back in HH again after an absence of 2 years and 10 days, the place is quiet and peaceful, just like it was 15 years ago, and the cafes, restaurants and shops are glad to see customers again and treat us with the respect we deserve as opposed to the interuptions to their slumber, nosepicking marathons and gossip that we were seen as a couple of years ago. We will divide our time between HH and BKK.

TBH though I was perfectly content in the UK.

Originally Posted by taxexile

TBH though I was perfectly content in the UK.

I doubt you are even remotely content anywhere.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Oh, that '____________wants to join' nonsense again.

Do you not remember all the bs about Turkey?

Of course dodgy countries and leaders want to join the EU. It doesn't mean they have a chance of doing so.

Why is it so difficult for people like Hugh to understand that wanting to join a group requires consent from that group . . . boggles the mind how this doesn't sink in.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Russian gas will just get shipped to a third country like Turkey, who will resell it to Germany. This already happens now with countries that have banned it.

Which countries re-sell Russian gas to countries that have banned it?

Bear in mind Hugh wasn't even aware the UK had left the EU, six months after it happened.

That puts his, umm, 'views' into a clearer perspective.

Originally Posted by panama hat

I doubt you are even remotely content anywhere.

...and the only place you are happy is on your knees in a silom road karsey with your mouth glued to a glory hole you sick german pig.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

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AM's Russian gas contract was very much a symbiotic arrangement that most thought would yield a dividend strengthening ties making the world a safer place through mutual benefit.

Putin 20 years ago was a very different animal to the one we have now - a man who was pragmatic and rational now utterly deluded and seemingly riven by stupidity and an irrational rage ...... by his silence.

Yep. Everything is just Putin propaganda. It's not like a country that has been invaded by the Mongols, Napoleon , the Ottomans , the Austro Hungarians, the imperial Lithuanians, the Germans , the British and the Nazis has any legitimate national security red lines on its western border that has zero natural borders. No.

It's all so simple isn't it. Putin must have lost his mind. Even though Gorbachev himself wouldn't give Crimea back and neither would Alexi Navalny.


Russians rally to Putin, who hits 83% approval

^ There should be no boundaries in the modern world. Putin's view of Russia belongs to the last century not this one. Same goes for all the other nationalists.

Originally Posted by Troy

There should be no boundaries in the modern world.

As in "borders" ?

Hmm

I'd agree with you in an Utopia.


Heaps of folks around these days, that I'd rather see stay the hell out of my way.

Nothing nationalistic about that.


You'd be welcome

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Observing Brexiteers eructing their dogma and bigotry never fails to amuse and Huge Cow is our resident buffoon leading the pack.

AM's Russian gas contract was very much a symbiotic arrangement that most thought would yield a dividend strengthening ties making the world a safer place through mutual benefit.

Putin 20 years ago was a very different animal to the one we have now - a man who was pragmatic and rational now utterly deluded and seemingly riven by stupidity and an irrational rage ......power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. AM can't b blamed for that. The theory is that Putin has cancer and is shot through with steroids alleviating symptoms which may b unbalancing him.

In the event he is deposed and replaced by, say, a Gorbachev figure then Nordstream 2 will b resurrected.

Hungary is rooted in fascism and is returning to type. Its exclusion from the EU is its own choice and there it is - hardly an issue threatening the world's largest, wealthiest and most successful socio-economic trade association.

The point remains, however, Brexit has failed to yield a single benefit and as highlighted by the OBR the UK economy continues to operate at a loss through the erection of anachronistic trade barriers blighting hundreds of thousands of SMes.

And yet again, for the umpteenth time, what is it Britain is going to sell to the world it couldn't before Brexit?

That continually preposterous streak of paralysed piss that is Mogg is soon to list those benefits of Brexit, apparently - currently we are deafened by his silence.

I am not actually a brexiter you moron. I do recognise that a union of some form or another is actually beneficial to Europe. Unfortunately it has bloated itself way beyond a sensible size in the mistaken belief that they will eventually end up with a united europe despite so many opposing ideas between states. It still has worked out who is going to make up the funding gap left by Brexit.
Insted of removing the surplus 70 eu reps from the payroll they just redistributed th 70 vacant seats around the rest of the EU, losing a chance to reduce a bloated political system. Its requirement of total agreement between the 27 states makes it as effective as the UN security council.
Despite the heralding of green policies and lambasting countries like Australia on Climate change, its energy reliance on fossil fuels is still over 60% despite nuclear power. The EU has been warned for years about reliance on Russian energy. Far from engaging Russia by using economics it has given Russia a weapon which it is currently holding over the head of the short sighted EU which will finance the Russian war machine. A fact I have commented on many times whilst myopic morons like you were too thick and too short sighted to see what was obvious to myself and many others.
If there was a total ban on russian energy Putin would now be in serious trouble. It's quite ironic the EU is inadvertently paying for the destruction of Ukraine while offering to pay to help rebuild it. Whilst the blame lies squarely with Putin, the EU has financed and helped facilitate it, albeit indirectly. They are inescapable facts no matter how you want to guild your precious EU lilly.
With your obvious lack of knowledge on economics and politics and most subjects of any note, have you considered a job in the civil service? Oh, thats right, I forgot.

Originally Posted by Backspin

What a load of total absolute garbage. First, if Germany and France went over the heads of the US like they had the power to, and made a treaty that Ukraine would not be joining Nato, there would be no war. But they didn't. Because people in London and DC wanted this war.

Second, Russia is not threatening to shut any gas off and never has.

Third, Russia's war will continue regardless of whether or not one more cubic meter of gas gets shipped to Germany.

Forth, There is no way around Russian gas. Its the simple laws of economics. The gas is too cheap. Even if Germany bans Russian gas, Russian gas will just get shipped to a third country like Turkey, who will resell it to Germany. This already happens now with countries that have banned it.

Why do you think Russian gas flowed endlessly through the cold war ?

They say practice makes perfect so I take it you practise stupid assiduously.
Firstly, France and Germany dont take a piss without asking the USA who without, NATO is nothing. Turkey is as reliable in NATO as a two dollar watch.
In fact I doubt Putin would be quaking in his boots over some sabre rattling from 95% of NATO countries.
Russia wont shut off the gas as it would be economically disastrous with current sanctions. It is purely self interest and the longer they keep the EU on the Russian energy teat the better. You are wrong. If the gas is banned Turkey will not be allowed to pass it on, that is a given and an asinine comment. Then again, I refer you back to my first line.

Originally Posted by taxexile

However hard you try to come to terms with the democratic decision of the british people, the brexit itch and the resultant disgruntlement you feel will gnaw away at you like an infected chancre until your dying day.

The escape from thailand, thevresettlement in portugal, the borderless tours of the vineyards of europe, the free healthcare, the good life, tis all but a disappearing mirage in your shattered hopes and fading dreams.

p.s. hows life in where is it again, sukhumvit soi 4?

At least he will save transport costs to his new job as used condom washer at the Nana short time hotel.
I for one am happy that S.A. has finally found a job that matches his intellectual capacity.

Huge Cow, your continuing incoherence, and your evident inability to express it in a manner other than the merely garbled, suggests, perhaps, too close an acquaintance with complete and utter shit. Hazarding a guess, if I were to speculate upon your profession I would put you down as an anal hair strimmer for the particularly hirsute.

now the NI elections are out of the way we can get on with what should have been done over 6 months ago. The EU has been using it as a weapon from day one. Well with the Unionists its not just one way traffic.

UK can scrap parts of N.Ireland protocol, advises attorney-general - The Times

May 11 (Reuters) - The attorney-general for England and Wales, Suella Braverman, has approved the scrapping of large parts of the Northern Ireland Brexit deal, The Times reported on Wednesday.


Braverman has advised that legislation to override the Northern Ireland protocol would be legal because the European Union's implementation of it is "disproportionate and unreasonable", the report said.


In evidence to her findings, Braverman says the EU is undermining the Good Friday agreement by creating a trade barrier in the Irish Sea and fuelling civil unrest, the newspaper said.


Britain on Wednesday rejected the EU's proposals to resolve a standoff over post-Brexit trade rules for Northern Ireland, saying it would not shy away from taking direct action in a move Ireland said would trigger legal action by Brussels. read more


UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the Northern Ireland protocol, which governs post-Brexit trade rules for the British province, needed to be fixed but there was no need for "drama". read more

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/england-wales-ag-braverman-has-approved-scrapping-large-parts-nireland-brexit-2022-05-11/

Originally Posted by malmomike77

The EU has been using it as a weapon from day one.

Totally distanced from reality in your paranoia again . . . it is quite interesting how you manage to see every defeat as a victory, every fact as a bias.

01.02.2020 Day one - show us where this was used as a weapon by those nasty 'Europeans'

He really is an odd chap.

'At long last, the trustworthy and insightful Conservative party can scrap parts of a deal that they recently agreed to and won an election on'.

What warped 'logic'.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Observing Brexiteers eructing their dogma and bigotry never fails to amuse and Huge Cow is our resident buffoon leading the pack.

AM's Russian gas contract was very much a symbiotic arrangement that most thought would yield a dividend strengthening ties making the world a safer place through mutual benefit.

Putin 20 years ago was a very different animal to the one we have now - a man who was pragmatic and rational now utterly deluded and seemingly riven by stupidity and an irrational rage ......power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. AM can't b blamed for that. The theory is that Putin has cancer and is shot through with steroids alleviating symptoms which may b unbalancing him.

In the event he is deposed and replaced by, say, a Gorbachev figure then Nordstream 2 will b resurrected.

Hungary is rooted in fascism and is returning to type. Its exclusion from the EU is its own choice and there it is - hardly an issue threatening the world's largest, wealthiest and most successful socio-economic trade association.

The point remains, however, Brexit has failed to yield a single benefit and as highlighted by the OBR the UK economy continues to operate at a loss through the erection of anachronistic trade barriers blighting hundreds of thousands of SMes.

And yet again, for the umpteenth time, what is it Britain is going to sell to the world it couldn't before Brexit?

That continually preposterous streak of paralysed piss that is Mogg is soon to list those benefits of Brexit, apparently - currently we are deafened by his silence.

Originally Posted by Backspin

What a load of total absolute garbage. First, if Germany and France went over the heads of the US like they had the power to, and made a treaty that Ukraine would not be joining Nato, there would be no war. But they didn't. Because people in London and DC wanted this war.

Second, Russia is not threatening to shut any gas off and never has.

Third, Russia's war will continue regardless of whether or not one more cubic meter of gas gets shipped to Germany.

Forth, There is no way around Russian gas. Its the simple laws of economics. The gas is too cheap. Even if Germany bans Russian gas, Russian gas will just get shipped to a third country like Turkey, who will resell it to Germany. This already happens now with countries that have banned it.

Why do you think Russian gas flowed endlessly through the cold war ?

So nice when you can kill 2 morons with one stone. Firstly the theory of closer ties with Russia through energy contracts was shown to be a non starter way back when they walked into Crimea in 2014 but did the EU heed the warning that was obvious to blind freddy? They've had eight years to do it and despite multiple warnings from th USA and others since they went and made themselves more dependent on their biggest potential enemy. Now when they could really hurt Russia with energy sanctions they cant and are financing Putins war by proxy.
Putin has outsmarted the EU by making them dependent on Russian energy meaning sanctions will be delayed before really biting and Ukraine is paying the price of the EUs lack of forsight, thats a given whichever way you slice the cake. One only has to look at recalcitrant Hungary or Austrias' failure on gas sanctions to see the bloated EU model is no longer fit for purpose and needs serious reform.
Meanwhile Britain free of the retards has progressed way past the EU in weapon support for the Ukraine and has far less reliance on Russian energy. Now, the biggest economy in Europe is trying to reverse decades of military atrophe, better late than never.
As to the benefits of Brexit. If Ireland reunifies that will be a certain benefit. If that perpetual Irish whinger SA is no longer able to enter britain many Brits would have to say Brexit was definitely worth it. I am just eternally greatful he doesnt have an Australian passport.

Its not the protocol per se that is at issue, rather the interpretation of its rules and their application by the EU, had the two clowns read up on how it is being applied viz NI they'd know that.

I'm well aware that is the utterly pathetic bullshit being swallowed whole by some gullible idiots.

Originally Posted by cyrille

I'm well aware that is the utterly pathetic bullshit being swallowed whole by some gullible idiots.

Hmmm well, the Attorney General who's role it is to both oversee the application of law cross Govt and to advise the Govt on legal matters seems to think the EU's application of the NI Protocol is unreasonable, so Syb if i'm looking at the opinion of some teacher VS the Govts senior legal advisor then i am afraid i'll listen to the legal direction.

Now as for the Mercan twat poking his nose in well lets just be nice and say he's about as relevant to this issue at the Taoiseach.

Attorney general approves scrapping of NI protocol – reports

The attorney general for England and Wales, Suella Braverman, is said to have approved the scrapping of large parts of the Northern Ireland Brexit deal, according to reports.

The move comes as a leading US congressman Brendan Boyle branded the government’s plans to move away from a treaty it signed two years ago as a “very frustrating” and “counterproductive” pattern that is causing concern in Washington.

Braverman has advised that legislation to override the Northern Ireland protocol would be legal because the European Union’s implementation of it is “disproportionate and unreasonable”, the Times has reported.

In evidence to her findings, Braverman says the EU is undermining the Good Friday agreement by creating a trade barrier in the Irish Sea and fuelling civil unrest, the newspaper said.

the rest here https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/12/attorney-general-approves-scrapping-of-ni-protocol-reports-liz-truss-brexit