We're not crying over spilt milk you senile old fool. We are pointing out the errors of Brexit, errors that manifest themselves every single day, and will continue to do so as long as the current Government fails to understand the stupidity of their decisions.
The NI proposal is a disaster, it was pointed out as being a disaster long ago but the Brexit train couldn't be stopped before it ran off the cliff. Now the EU are having to make proposals to get the UK out of the doggy poo.
The Brexit fishing deal is a disaster, it was pointed out as being a disaster but, again, the Brexit brigade failed to listen. There is no point catching fish if you don't have a market for them as the fisherman, not famous for their intellect, have at last worked out.
The Brexit leaving of the EU common movement policy is a disaster, it was pointed out as being a disaster long ago but the same dumbasses that queued up for petrol and complained of empty supermarket shelves wouldn't listen.
Like you, nobody would listen until they hit the brick wall square in the face and got a bloody nose...and then they blame the EU.
Dumb is what dumb does...
^ you can chose to view those issues in that light if you wish Troy.
Its the French whinging about fishing licences because they can't prove historic fishing rights to meet the UK Govt licencing rules, so their answer is to behave like petulant children and threaten the UK with direct action and draw the EU into their minor dispute. The EU is left to tell Micron and the French to "cool down". On the fishing matters, the EU has chosen to enforce policy regards live shellfish landing in a rigid manner which it knows is unreasonable and designed to cause the British industry maximum pain, that is the EU's right of course but it reflects more on them than the UK.
The issues to do with common movement were always going to take time to resolve. Frankly UK employers have had over 4 years to address their problems, but no, as is the way these days Industry wants a light touch unless it suits them so they are bleating about having to offer proper wages, training and packages that attract UK staff. The Govt is not responsible for hiring and firing and training of employees. Industry has for too long got away with low pay and poor employment practice and yes that is something the Govt should have done something about. It strikes me that once we are past this short term labour issue the country will be better off, i have always found the UK industries race to employ cheap EU imports over providing a proper UK living wage without the need for Govt tax credits distasteful and now i hope that is in the past.
As for the EU bailing out the NI problem well i think most are aware the EU has been doing everything in its power to make sure the border issue and their overly bureaucratic policing practices it so loves have been made as painful as possible. They are behaving like a playground bully and quite frankly the conditions for triggering Art 16 on the UK side have been in existence for some time and this i do agree with; Johnson doesn't appear to have the spine to trigger it, more's the pity if only to stick two fingers up to the geriatric meddling prick across the pond.
You all knew as did most in the UK that these issues will emerge and some will prove challenging and even painful in the short term, they will take time to resolve but here you are hanging on to them. Its kind of like the spiteful jilted partner in a divorce...its all you have left
FFS the EU couldnt organise a fuck in a brothel. Your endless whining and carping is pointless. A bit like trying to explain the communist revolution by an avowed communist or an avowed monarchist. You are hardly likely to give a balanced perspective and therefore lack credibility. Its not like you had secret entry inside all the negotiations and discussions only your own prejudiced ruminations. You jump on any negative report that in your mind can be blamed on Brexit. You are the E.U.s answer to OhOh.
Speaking of disastrous fishing deals.
Fishing: The Great Betrayal - Briefings For Britain
I'll leave cyrille and Troy for the response.
Whine, whine, whine, whine . . . . . . picked it like a dirty nose.
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Yes, you are doing that ad infinitum, and what has changed since you have been doing that? Nothing. What effect have you had on voters and politicians? Nothing.
I may be senile, but I have sense to recognize foolish people trying to effect change, by continually applying the same, crying foul tactics.
Shut up and move on.
Seeing as this is a forum to exchange views the chance that this will change anything lies anywhere between zero and . . . well . . . zero.
It's a discussion. Pointing out errors is part of that. Arguing against them using facts is another.
Not meant to, Switch. Just a chat.
Why would you be.
Wow, nothing on TD has changed BREXIT, so what’s the point talking about it?
I really hope for your sake that you’re being deliberately ridiculous, you silly old queen.
‘Total loss of confidence’: Franco-British relations plumb new depths
Analysis: insiders say French belief that No 10 cannot be trusted has intensified amid Brexit, Covid, migration and Aukus
blah blah if you can be bothered to read yet another Cyrille apologist article.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/08/total-loss-of-confidence-franco-british-relations-plumb-new-depths
Do you have the authority to post on behalf of the 49%?
How exactly does my attitude reflect that of a prison guard? They do a difficult job under trying circumstances. It seems unfair to paint them all with the same attitude as me. As it’s just another crass and incorrect assumption, it bothers me not.
Well, that flew straight over your head...
Yeah, troy’s clearly not sharp enough for your pearls of wisdom.
Like ‘You don’t live in England so your opinion is worthless’ - posted by a Bali-based sexpat.
The Domino effect is starting....
The unprecedented challenge made by Poland's prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, to one of the European Union's core legal principles has seriously escalated his government's dispute with Brussels. And it has fuelled concerns that Poland is heading towards the door, described as "Polexit".
France says such an exit is now a "de facto risk". Late on Friday the French and German foreign ministers rebuked Poland, saying EU membership relied upon "complete and unconditional adherence to common values and rules" and this was "not simply a moral commitment. It is also a legal commitment".
The European Commission has warned it will use all its powers against Poland.
Poland stokes fears of leaving EU in '''Polexit''' - BBC News
Shalom
Nearly 90% of the Polish want to stay in the EU you dimwit.
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