Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Indeed, that is why we import our beef from Ireland, instead of fucking India, because the tariffs are prohibitive otherwise...

I didn't know India exports beef, thanks for that.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

What's the size of the UK economy? What's 1% of that? Still quite a sizeable figure in monetary terms. Germany joined Italy in recession yet?

Not yet, numbers still at the massage parlour.

angry, possibly insane irishman (seeking o'sylum?) ranting uncontrollably and incomprehensibly about brexit.

Originally Posted by taxexile

angry, possibly insane irishman (seeking o'sylum?) ranting uncontrollably and incomprehensibly about brexit.

If you thought that was incomprehensible you should listen to some of the chaps from the farms around Lifford.
Mind you, the yokels from the depths of the West Country where they eat their babies and have developed webbed feet might give them a run for their money.
Still, I daresay you whippet fuckers do babble on when the mood takes you.

Sober yet ya tosser?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Your last line is a fundamental problem of understanding. But, you're not alone because the likes of Anna Soubry also believe that a referendum result is less important than the representative democracy - this is of course an error. When a referendum occurs, a rare event, direct democracy in the form of adhering to the referendum result supersedes the normal representative democracy in that case. Parliament votes to give the decision to the people via referendum (that was done), then the referendum is held (that was done) and parliament directly implements that result (we're still awaiting this part of the contract).

I believe that it is you that has the misunderstanding and the one in error. A referendum does not supercede Parliament. It is an advisory and nothing more. There is no legal requirement to adhere to the referendum result.

Originally Posted by Troy

I believe that it is you that has the misunderstanding and the one in error. A referendum does not supercede Parliament. It is an advisory and nothing more. There is no legal requirement to adhere to the referendum result.

Might not be a legal requirement but we were clearly told it was our decision and a once in a generation vote and our decision would be implemented. Now obviously the powers that be never imagined we would vote the wrong way and because we did they have done everything they can to overturn the decision where we've ended up at a point where the decision is now remain (extending A50) or remain with no say (Doris deal). Neither option is what people voted for and going against 17.4 million people who voted for something is a dangerous precedent to set. Your own arguments make another referendum pointless so the only way forward is another general election and parties can campaign for and put in their manifesto leave or remain but oops didn't they do that in 2017?

Originally Posted by Troy

I believe that it is you that has the misunderstanding and the one in error. A referendum does not supercede Parliament. It is an advisory and nothing more. There is no legal requirement to adhere to the referendum result.

The government is required to adhere to the referendum result, Troy. Surely even you agree with that.

Originally Posted by Troy

I believe that it is you that has the misunderstanding and the one in error. A referendum does not supercede Parliament. It is an advisory and nothing more. There is no legal requirement to adhere to the referendum result.

Let's get this right, for an insight into your democratic mindset. Parliament voted for the people to decide via referendum, one is held and the people decided, but they voted the wrong way and therefore that decision is undemocratic and invalid? You've been in Thailand too long, and I half expect you to campaign for HM armed forces to logically follow through by democratically storming the Commons.

Out of interest, would you refer to yourself as an average Europhile?

Originally Posted by Troy

I believe that it is you that has the misunderstanding and the one in error. A referendum does not supercede Parliament. It is an advisory and nothing more. There is no legal requirement to adhere to the referendum result.

At every stage, from the earliest as per the Youtube clip Jabir posted earlier, it was made clear that parliament, as is their right, gave this decision back to the people via referendum. Now, some folks, such as yourself, are looking to squirm out of a contract via 'legal interpretations'.

'Legally', to some degree, has no meaning insomuchas laws are made and changed and interpreted by conventional power which is associated with political power and political will. So, yes, legally the referendum must be adhered to, and yes, legally the referendum can be undermined, and yes, legally just about any interpretation inbetween the two extremes is possible...

If the head ruling body was controlled by Brexiteers then that legal entity would determine the referendum legally binding. If the head ruling body was controlled by remoaners then the referendum would be determined not legally binding. Welcome to reality...

Thus, situations must be considered in context, and this referendum is extremely clear - leave is the only reasonable outcome whether folks voted for it and like it or not.

It looks like that won't happen. One reason is the huge sums of money and effort pumped into street protests and propaganda by the remoaners. Remember that it is always much easier to stay the same than to change, and the fact that so much romoaner effort has been spent shows just how huge the desire to leave is.

For parliament to stop Brexit, as looks very likely, might result in huge social unrest and protest because 1) Brexiteers at 50%+; 2) people who believe in democracy (who can say, but polls are claiming 70%+ say that leave with no deal is the best option) will combine and then anything is possible.

Lastly, I will say, that the fact that the EU/remoaners have the ability to stop Brexit - the biggest democratic vote in British history - should be a massive red flag to everyone. Democracy is dying or dead, and the globalists who are unaccountable and opaque that rule are the worst of the worst...

Still, I daresay you whippet fuckers do babble on when the mood takes you.

indeed we do, and we know that a deal will be hammered out before the end of march.

the germans, or to be precise, the german industrial complex and motor industry, dictate policy to brussels and they need a deal. so a deal will be had. no deal will mean higher german unemployment, and unlike the french who are happy to bring their country to a standstill over some trifling pay dispute, never mind how many people get laid off in the process, the germans though only want to work, and would not dream of risking their jobs. so a deal will be had, in order to preserve german jobs.

because it is the germans that run the eu. their needs come first.

UK may slash trade tariffs under a no-deal Brexit


The UK government may cut trade tariffs on between 80% and 90% of goods in the event of a no-deal Brexit, reports say.

Some tariffs would be scrapped completely, including those on car parts, and some agricultural produce.

However, 10-20% of key products would continue to be protected by the current level of tariffs, including some textiles, cars, beef, lamb and dairy.

The government said it would make an announcement once a decision had been finalised.

The plans for widespread cuts in tariffs were first reported by Sky News, which said the government intended to publish details of the tariff cuts if lawmakers rejected Prime Minister Theresa May's Brexit deal in a vote due next week.

The Department for International Trade said that no final decision had been taken on tariffs, but there had been discussion across government about the right level in the event of a no-deal.

"If we leave the European Union without an agreement, our tariffs will need to strike a balance between protecting consumers and businesses from possible price rises and avoiding the exposure of sensitive industries to competition."


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47463893

Originally Posted by Neverna

The government is EXPECTED to adhere to the referendum result, Troy. Surely even you agree with that.

fixed that for you, basically a REF is a poll and we expect them to adhere to it, much like electoral programs or campaign promises

but guess what, 99% of the time they don't

anyway, Brexit is the best thing that happened to Europe since the end of WW2

enough of you indecisive and divise fookers, time to put you back where you belong on your miserable island

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Brexit is the best thing that happened to Europe since the end of WW2

You are welcome.

Originally Posted by taxexile

indeed we do, and we know that a deal will be hammered out before the end of march.

the germans, or to be precise, the german industrial complex and motor industry, dictate policy to brussels and they need a deal. so a deal will be had. no deal will mean higher german unemployment, and unlike the french who are happy to bring their country to a standstill over some trifling pay dispute, never mind how many people get laid off in the process, the germans though only want to work, and would not dream of risking their jobs. so a deal will be had, in order to preserve german jobs.

because it is the germans that run the eu. their needs come first.

Spot on, everything is about what's best for Germany, though some Remoaners insist Frau doesn't have her finger and scissors on the EU air line...ain't that right, Troy?

so Brexit is not about Eastern Europe immigration and taking back your frontiers and independence,

but all about Germany being the dominating force of Europe since it was created?

hello, where have you been all those years

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

so Brexit is not about Eastern Europe immigration and taking back your frontiers and independence,

but all about Germany being the dominating force of Europe since it was created?

hello, where have you been all those years

Who said that...hello...? oh it's you, ok yes whatever!

Nope it's all about causing even more chaos in France by making you pay more into the EU. The UK making up about 25% of the EU budget that large gap in funding is going to have to come from somewhere. How's unemployment looking in France? Any recession looking over there? 40% and rising or you little froggies want out the EU last I read. Tick tock tick tock.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

The UK making up about 25% of the EU budget

Eh? Did you get that figure from the lying fookwit Nigel?

Originally Posted by taxexile

indeed we do, and we know that a deal will be hammered out before the end of march.

the germans, or to be precise, the german industrial complex and motor industry, dictate policy to brussels and they need a deal. so a deal will be had. no deal will mean higher german unemployment, and unlike the french who are happy to bring their country to a standstill over some trifling pay dispute, never mind how many people get laid off in the process, the germans though only want to work, and would not dream of risking their jobs. so a deal will be had, in order to preserve german jobs.

because it is the germans that run the eu. their needs come first.

Not according to the Kraut press or to the many articles appearing in transatlantic periodicals, the economic media or among the cognoscenti not given to the Kipper/Tory idiocy that seems to have overwhelmed your synaptic geography like some form of particularly virulent ectoplasmic plaque provoking your ever increasing flights of alarming fancy.
Brexit is the equivalent of a somewhat irksome impacted faecal pellet obstructing the anus and one the combined EU sphincter is about to jettison into the oblivion of the sewer that is the third world, a drain into which Engerlandia may well recognise as its true destiny.

Har, har.

Originally Posted by lom

Eh? Did you get that figure from the lying fookwit Nigel?

I didn't realise remoaners had a monopoly on making stuff up, ok 13% but the shortfall will still have to be made up.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Nope it's all about causing even more chaos in France by making you pay more into the EU. The UK making up about 25% of the EU budget that large gap in funding is going to have to come from somewhere. How's unemployment looking in France? Any recession looking over there? 40% and rising or you little froggies want out the EU last I read. Tick tock tick tock.

You innumerate buffoon, the EU annual budget is circa £150 billion to which the UK contributes around £10 billions.

Fucking chickenfeed monkey boy. And remember, that annual budget is about 1% of the EU's combined wealth.

England is fucking irrelevant in the big picture and is only a consideration in the EU's strategic planning because of Ireland.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You innumerate buffoon, the EU annual budget is circa £150 billion to which the UK contributes around £10 billions.

Fucking chickenfeed monkey boy. And remember, that annual budget is about 1% of the EU's combined wealth.

England is fucking irrelevant in the big picture and is only a consideration in the EU's strategic planning because of Ireland.

That irrelevant that you won't renounce your citizenship from or stop sucking off the state teet? You would be finished without your UK dependency. And that makes me chuckle.