Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

A talking clown, just like his time behind a desk. We need a new approach and as much as 48 percent don't like it, more of the same in the EU fed system won't change the current downward spiral.

Of course Sausages hates workers, him and ths specads have been experimenting on them for decades with no risk to their jobs or pensions. God how i hate condescending wankers like him. Seems like the Northern message has hit home and lets hope it is not another false dawn

Originally Posted by Switch

It's so nice of you to absolve the unions of any blame for the collapse of UK manufacturing industry.
I'm surprised all those Japanese manufacturers cam e to UK, when the unions were so considerate, in laying the groundwork for those arrivals. (cough)

I am also curious about the Wilson government, and his successors. Did they reverse all the nasty tory plans to shape British industry, ably assisted by that lovely and gentle minded Scargill chap?

Successive governments failed the country, blinded by high wage demands, accompanied by falling improvements in quality or quantity.

Thank fok the CS weren't running the show ........ oh wait

What a clown you turned out to be.

You are mixing up a lot of memories there...

There was a good documentary on the demise of the UK car industry, starting with the Austin Morris merger and then Jaguar to form BMH and then Leyland and BL. Pretty sure it's on YouTube.

Management, Unions, competition and government intervention all contributed to the demise.

Scargill was miners union...a decade or so later.

Originally Posted by Troy

Management, Unions, competition and government intervention all contributed to the demise.

The demise of the Coventry car industry was IMO due to the unions getting the car workers wages that were 25% more than the average national wage during the early 60's. It was obvious their greed was their downfall.

Originally Posted by Troy

You are mixing up a lot of memories there...

There was a good documentary on the demise of the UK car industry, starting with the Austin Morris merger and then Jaguar to form BMH and then Leyland and BL. Pretty sure it's on YouTube.

Management, Unions, competition and government intervention all contributed to the demise.

Scargill was miners union...a decade or so later.

Whooosh

This, which many of you may have seen before, is very correct, imho:



Yet, Mr Sausage still fights on in exactly the same way that this woman clearly details...

^
Similar to the above.

Originally Posted by Switch

Whooosh

You conflate and simplify and then mask with a whooosh.

Originally Posted by Troy

You conflate and simplify and then mask with a whooosh.

You are so good at missing the whole point, and the obvious sarcasm. Well done, bright and shining object. Dazzled by your own perceived performance.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

...Even David Davis said that sovereignty was never a serious issue and in practice nothing usurps the power of the British parliament and its government in the matter of domestic governance and the exercise of its foreign policies.

Brexit was always about xenophobic bigotry and discrimination.

And fuck all else.

Baffles me how sovereignty was never an issue, when the not so secret goal of the EU is to gather all 28 chunks of it + those to come, under their single jurisdiction.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You are a family man, you have a duty to educate, not indoctrinate according to whatever rhetoric you stupidly choose to swallow.

I don't indoctrinate my kids as to any of my beliefs. I let them decide as to what is right or wrong. One learns by ones mistakes. I just give my opinion if it's asked for. Up to them if they accept it.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I don't indoctrinate my kids as to any of my beliefs. I let them decide as to what is right or wrong. One learns by ones mistakes. I just give my opinion if it's asked for. Up to them if they accept it.

That is bollox, Prag, you are not giving your own opinions, you are a mouthpiece for propaganda you have swallowed unquestioningly because it reflects your own prejudices and bigotry.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

That is bollox, Prag, you are not giving your own opinions, you are a mouthpiece for propaganda you have swallowed unquestioningly because it reflects your own prejudices and bigotry.

Everybody is free to have an opinion, provided that his opinion complies with my opinion...

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

you are a mouthpiece for propaganda you have swallowed unquestioningly because it reflects your own prejudices and bigotry.

Pray tell me where I get this propaganda from. We usually pick it up from our parents unknowingly as we grow up IMO. But it didn't happen in my house as my parents never talked politics or tried to guide me, and my siblings, as to any political beliefs. I can only assume my beliefs are from my own observations.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Accept it Prag, you simply haven't the ability to think for yourself.

I accept it. I've seen the light. Thanks.

It's a big part of the problem: that BREXITers just never understood the union in the first place, and have never become informed.

Their minds tend not to be too nimble.

But why do they cling to the rocks of their stupidity and ignorance like limpets when the truth is so manifest?

There is no benefit to Brexit, no fiscal gain, no cultural enhancement, no democratic dividend that alters meaningfully the weft and weave of British society, nothing at all. Yet they still plug on with only mindless blindly optimistic and delusional assurances from piffle waffle demagogic snake oil merchants that things will improve despite Brexit paralysing their economy and devaluing their currency by 20%.

Surely, the most disturbing example of mass hysteria manifested in a nation state since the Nazi rise in the 1930s.

One glimmer of hope is that the troglodytes we have on this forum had their 'views' handed to them on a plate by Murdoch.

Younger generations don't read newspapers anymore, and even illiteracy is an improvement.

It was a vote. Brexit won. Get over it.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

But why do they cling to the rocks of their stupidity and ignorance like limpets when the truth is so manifest?

There is no benefit to Brexit, no fiscal gain, no cultural enhancement, no democratic dividend that alters meaningfully the weft and weave of British society, nothing at all. Yet they still plug on with only mindless blindly optimistic and delusional assurances from piffle waffle demagogic snake oil merchants that things will improve despite Brexit paralysing their economy and devaluing their currency by 20%.

Surely, the most disturbing example of mass hysteria manifested in a nation state since the Nazi rise in the 1930s.

It may be that in your cess pit of the world, that sterling has devalued by that much. Thailand is not the real world and Pattaya is not Thailand.
Your personal self interest is of no value to the wider community, even if you think it should be.
Your fantasy about exchange rates, and your fictitious devaluation is therefore proven to be both wrong, and irrelevant. Just like you.

The benefit to Brexit, is the excommunication of deliberate social engineering by the EU. The EU want more federalization and monetary union, not less.
The diversity of such a union is dissonant when it comes to greater union. One size may benefit Germany and France, but it helps no one else.

Your opening sentence describes you perfectly.

Again, no matter what one says, the response is always the same, more rehashed doctrinal gibberish rehearsed in the same old tired rhetoric expounding nothing but unfounded assertions with no substance other than more propaganda churned out by right wing dinosaurs and their dupes.

They already have monetary union but any federalisation will be subject to the wishes of the member states but the likelihood of a United States of Europe is as much a reality as BoJo's hunt for pixie-dusted unicorns gambolling in perpetually sun dappled uplands adorned by garlands draped by nymphets dancing to the tune of Elgar.

As I say, no Brexiteer in the past three years has produced a single benefit justifying the upheaval to the UK's economic model and to the lives of over 10 million people adversely affected including the stupid return to the prohibition on travel from and to the Continent.

Just vapid hot air.

The £ in June 2015 stood at 54 baht and $1.58 US, now it stands at around 39.50 and $1.33.

The economy's growth rate is now at its lowest in a decade and in order to restore a decade of austerity the Exchequer will have to find £400 billions from an economy that most pundits say is on cours to lose £60 billions annually from Brexit alone.

Unless of course, BoJo the Clown scraps the doctrinal gibberish of the ERG nazis and accommodates the CBI et al.

It remains a mess and will continue for another year of chaos.

You can say that again

Its the usual tired regurgitated paragraphs which helpfully ignore the parlous state of EU countries economies. HNY Sausages, great decade ahead if your not you.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

the parlous state of EU countries economies.

The usual unsubstantiated drivel.