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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    FFS is this fool really an EU god?
    Has he delivered what was asked of him?

    One of Great Britain's most respected PM's led the country in times of trouble and strife to victory, military and political. Whilst he supped on many liquids, including tea. Chewing his way through Havana cigars simultaneously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    how many poms use a VPN to bypass the govts silly internet laws ?
    When Jabir says it seems 50% is from beyond UK borders he is doing what his ilk normally do, lying and deflecting. About 3% is from overseas and, of course, overseas Britons are allowed to sign petitions on this site. The site itself provides data on where signers come from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    FFS is this fool really an EU god?

    He is intelligent, powerful, respected, wealthy, and drinks a lot. I hear you drink a lot too, at least you two have that much in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    About 3% is from overseas
    As audited by whom?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    The site itself provides data on where signers come from
    The site app has been audited for compliance with UK government/international regulations?

    Social security/passport numbers, audited proof of ID are required and audited or just an IP check or self notified?

    Big brother is "assisting' the local citizens in their expression for truth or GCHQ running it's "citizen vote control" app tweaked to enable them to avail themselves of the goal sought result.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    He is intelligent, powerful, respected, wealthy, and drinks a lot. I hear you drink a lot too, at least you two have that much in common.
    He’s cunning, disrespectful and equates to a smiling viper.

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    In other words, a politician.

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    As far as bots and the petition go, the best the BBC propaganda site can come up with is:

    Cyber-security expert Kevin Beaumont said that while it was possible that bots were involved, it would be "a bit of a pain" to build a sophisticated enough programme to cope with the email addresses.
    "They would have to make a bot that signs up with unique email addresses, then clicks the unique link to sign," he said.

    To be honest, I know very little about computers, and I could come up with a bot that is connected to email accounts; not a difficult step for a very well funded anti-Brexit campaign. I think the last point is the highlight: the anti-Brexit campaign is extremely well-funded and organized.

    It also looks like the plan now is twin-tiered:

    1) See how far the UK parliament can go with an attempt to just revoke article 50.

    2) Manipulate a second referendum with questions that don't allow for Brexit: i.e. two questions being May's deal or no Brexit.

    I'd have to say that it looks like no Brexit at all is favourite, and of course this would be the fifth time the EU has managed this trick with different countries who wanted less EU.

    I'd also add that the % of the British populous who support a no deal Brexit has dramatically increased as it becomes ever more obvious that the British political class have zero interest in what the electorate want.

    Increasing crowds in Paris yesterday:







    *** ^ real grass-roots protest by the people for changes that will help the people ***

    While in London, the Orwellian site of massively funded pro-EU and anti-democracy folks claiming their democratic right to stop the result of the largest referendum in British history - simply weird. It's just so easy for money to obscure the truth. I wonder who actually paid for all these EU flags and corporate made banners (did they not think that these 'home-made style' banners look rather suspicious when hundreds of them are identical)???

    We know that a year ago Soros invested over 1 million pounds for this very end (he explained it that way in an interview), we also know that Blair is getting endless BBC/other propaganda site monologue time to preach this view between his trips to advise EU leaders on how to stop the British referendum result.

    *** \/ fake, corporate managed protest by well-funded agencies against the people's democratic referendum result *** ***keywords in place along with the BBC/other propaganda site scripts... ***

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    Betty, what the hell has happened to you? You have gone insane. When did you start believing that paranoid gibberish. It is genuinely distressing to see someone I always considered intelligent and thoughtful degenerate into a jargon-spouting paranoid cliche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As audited by whom?



    The site app has been audited for compliance with UK government/international regulations?

    Social security/passport numbers, audited proof of ID are required and audited or just an IP check or self notified?

    Big brother is "assisting' the local citizens in their expression for truth or GCHQ running it's "citizen vote control" app tweaked to enable them to avail themselves of the goal sought result.?
    There is a great deal of discussion and explanation of how this works on the net. Get off your useless arse and find out the answers to your questions. If you are genuinely saying you don’t know how it works then your opinion, being based on total ignorance, is worthless.

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    UK Government is prepared to act to contain all "disruptions". Conversely they of course do not "assist" those displays of conformity.

    No-Deal-Brexit Doomsday-Plan: Soldiers In Nuclear Bunker Ready To Go


    The UK is facing tough days ahead as British Prime Minister Theresa May presses forward with Brexit. Citizens have been warned to begin stockpiling basic supplies, such as food and medicine, in the event that no deal is made between the European Union and the UK. While it might seem a bit extreme to those who live in the far western world, many people believe that if no deal is reached there will be widespread civil unrest. A Brexit doomsday plan has been put into action.

    Brexit Doomsday Plan Includes Troops

    Reuters reports that the UK has activated troops and deployed them to a special nuclear bunker beneath the Ministry of Defence. The action has been dubbed Operation Redfold, and it is a key part of the UK’s Brexit doomsday plan. According to the report, a total of 3,500 troops will be put on standby as the government begins to enter “very high readiness mode.”


    Sky News, claiming a government insider as their source, said that key departments that would most likely be disrupted by a no deal Brexit will be manning posts 24 hours a day to try and keep things under control. The departments of Health, Transport, and Defence were among key departments the report listed as being at the ready.

    What Is Operation Redfold?

    Operation Redfold is the military arm of Operation Yellowhammer, which is a Brexit doomsday contingency plan set in place by Whitehall in case of a no deal exit. The troops involved in this massive effort to help ensure the country continues to operate will provide valuable infrastructure to reduce chaos and panic. They will help drive fuel tankers to deliver much needed fuel and also help provide services like overflow parking lots for trucks when shipments at ports are delayed by customs.

    Action Being Taken By The UK Government

    A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence was quoted as saying, “we are always willing to support wider government planning for any scenario, and we have committed to holding 3,500 troops at readiness to aid contingency plans.At the moment there is much activity taking place to ensure a Brexit doomsday plan is not only in place, but is also a viable method for controlling and supporting the country in the event a deal is not reached.


    The military is also making major preparation for this scenario. They have reportedly stockpiled weapons, fuel, ammunition, and spare parts both overseas and in the UK. In the event that supply lines are interrupted there will still be supplies to carry on daily operations.

    Nuclear Bunker Only Used In Emergency Situations

    The bunker from which Operation Redfold troops will be activated is called “Pindar.” It is located below the Ministry of Defence and is reportedly used only in times of emergency or all out war. It would seem the UK government is seriously considering that a no deal scenario is indeed serious enough to call for a Brexit doomsday plan to be put into action.

    No Deal Could Have Serious Consequences

    ValueWalk reported in January that a no deal scenario could paralyze air traffic in the UK, and will no doubt affect other means of travel as well. Mobilization of troops, widespread preparation by government departments, and warnings about civil unrest are all signs that a no deal exit from the EU could be detrimental to the short term health of the UK.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-22/no-deal-brexit-doomsday-plan-soldiers-nuclear-bunker-ready-go

    One could sit and wait or help produce another 10,000 posts here on TD. Come on guys and gals, get those comments typed and posted here make TD the go-too site for "informed" commentators.

    One hopes they have unpolluted water bowsers, food stockpiles, charged battery packs for the electric car owners ready for distribution. Do they have any electricity transformers available when the grid is taken out, a la Venezuela? Working backup plans when the Nuclear Plants flip off a la japan?

    Most importantly do the internet system private suppliers have their systems made "tamper-proof" and protected from "exceptional" events?

    The military option has been funded, created, tested, polished and upgraded as required. The Field Marshal, Admiral of the Fleet and Air Force Marshal have assured the PM the soldiers, sailors and airmen, will be back at base by the start of the Eastbourne Tennis Tournament..

    The political option, still being conceived, nourished, medical team educated, deadly injections stored, nah not needed, just publish an online vote.

    Keep up with the times, control the media (sub 160 character "official statements" preferred, government approved emojis encouraged), including lying, misspeaking, deflection. and announce the win/the defeat of the "enemy", over and over and over ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Betty, what the hell has happened to you? You have gone insane. When did you start believing that paranoid gibberish. It is genuinely distressing to see someone I always considered intelligent and thoughtful degenerate into a jargon-spouting paranoid cliche.
    Look at this picture:




    The picture is of a very well funded managed campaign. It is not a spontaneous rising by the people... They have the same flags, the same banners, the same message is repeated - it is staged propaganda.

    People, individuals, make their own banners, use different words because they have different backgrounds, vocabularies, ideas..., and look like this:




    The romoaner side is massively funded and has a centralised management which works in parallel with media outlets; using the same phrases, in fact making up the phrases such as 'people's vote' - this is a carefully thought through marketing project which reaches from BBC headlines, MP quotes and marches with banners and flags. It is not the British people's spontaneous voice...

    What we are seeing is how money and planning defeats the will of the people. The fact that Soros and Blair are aligned to this agenda really should make people wake up to what is really happening - it is not as if either Blair or Soros are denying their total contempt for the referendum; they have both explicated their designs to stop it. It's not rocket science...

    I find it hard to believe how well-educated folk have such a total disregard for democratic process instead supporting elitist agitators engaging in endless propaganda; agitators who have made their colours clear over decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The picture is of a very well funded managed campaign. It is not a spontaneous rising by the people... They have the same flags, the same banners, the same message is repeated - it is staged propaganda.
    So 100% the same as the Leave Campaign?

    ...& the failed Brexiteer demos of late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    So 100% the same as the Leave Campaign?
    What has been remarkably obvious is how different the two approaches since the referendum have differed.

    The remoaners have been coopted by a carefully managed and massively funded project to stop Brexit which is managed by folks like blair and soros.

    The leave side has not been coordinated at all, they are just everyday people, sometimes clubbing together into groups, sometimes protesting their cause, but there is no centralized funding or marketing campaign.

    The incredibly obvious take-away from all of this is how successful the 'elites' behind the remoaner campaign have been. But, to be fooled into thinking this is the will of the people is plain dumb. The British people seem to be more against staying in the EU than ever, and they plainly see that the Houses of Parliament, EU and remoaner campaign are just an endless machine of oppression with zero regard for democracy or the common people.

    It does look like Brexit will be stopped. But, folks that rejoice in that are dumb to the realities and causes - Brexit has not been stopped by the British people for the good of Britain, Brexit is being stopped by the 'elite globalists' who have zero regard for democracy; they want less of it, more distant federalization, less local government and less visibility of governing processes.

    Having a view that Britain would be better off in the EU is fine.

    Supporting the abuse of democracy by blair, soros and their corrupt cronies (or denying what's in front of your eyes, as well as these people saying it themselves...) is something totally different, it is dumb and shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    What has been remarkably obvious is how different the two approaches since the referendum have differed.

    The remoaners have been coopted by a carefully managed and massively funded project to stop Brexit which is managed by folks like blair and soros.

    The leave side has not been coordinated at all, they are just everyday people, sometimes clubbing together into groups, sometimes protesting their cause, but there is no centralized funding or marketing campaign.
    You've either not been paying attention or your head is so far up your own arse you don't know what time of day it is...

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    Bettyboo is quite dotty, isn't he. I imagine he is a superannuated overgrown marxist in his middle age but he does seem to think and write like an adolescent.

    Anyone know his age? Has he had a stroke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    He’s cunning, disrespectful and equates to a smiling viper.
    we are talking about Farage, right? or Reese Moog?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Betty, what the hell has happened to you? You have gone insane. When did you start believing that paranoid gibberish. It is genuinely distressing to see someone I always considered intelligent and thoughtful degenerate into a jargon-spouting paranoid cliche.
    you noticed it too?

    he is gone full princess, I suspect that's after he became a Mac fan boy when he bought his first iMac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Bettyboo is quite dotty, isn't he. I imagine he is a superannuated overgrown marxist in his middle age but he does seem to think and write like an adolescent.

    Anyone know his age? Has he had a stroke?
    I think its substance abuse: glue, alcohol, pills, he should really get himself booked into a clinic before he starts talking to the patterns in his carpet. If indeed, he is not there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    UK Government is prepared to act to contain all "disruptions". Conversely they of course do not "assist" those displays of conformity.

    No-Deal-Brexit Doomsday-Plan: Soldiers In Nuclear Bunker Ready To Go


    The UK is facing tough days ahead as British Prime Minister Theresa May presses forward with Brexit. Citizens have been warned to begin stockpiling basic supplies, such as food and medicine, in the event that no deal is made between the European Union and the UK. While it might seem a bit extreme to those who live in the far western world, many people believe that if no deal is reached there will be widespread civil unrest. A Brexit doomsday plan has been put into action.

    Brexit Doomsday Plan Includes Troops

    Reuters reports that the UK has activated troops and deployed them to a special nuclear bunker beneath the Ministry of Defence. The action has been dubbed Operation Redfold, and it is a key part of the UK’s Brexit doomsday plan. According to the report, a total of 3,500 troops will be put on standby as the government begins to enter “very high readiness mode.”


    Sky News, claiming a government insider as their source, said that key departments that would most likely be disrupted by a no deal Brexit will be manning posts 24 hours a day to try and keep things under control. The departments of Health, Transport, and Defence were among key departments the report listed as being at the ready.

    What Is Operation Redfold?

    Operation Redfold is the military arm of Operation Yellowhammer, which is a Brexit doomsday contingency plan set in place by Whitehall in case of a no deal exit. The troops involved in this massive effort to help ensure the country continues to operate will provide valuable infrastructure to reduce chaos and panic. They will help drive fuel tankers to deliver much needed fuel and also help provide services like overflow parking lots for trucks when shipments at ports are delayed by customs.

    Action Being Taken By The UK Government

    A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence was quoted as saying, “we are always willing to support wider government planning for any scenario, and we have committed to holding 3,500 troops at readiness to aid contingency plans.At the moment there is much activity taking place to ensure a Brexit doomsday plan is not only in place, but is also a viable method for controlling and supporting the country in the event a deal is not reached.


    The military is also making major preparation for this scenario. They have reportedly stockpiled weapons, fuel, ammunition, and spare parts both overseas and in the UK. In the event that supply lines are interrupted there will still be supplies to carry on daily operations.

    Nuclear Bunker Only Used In Emergency Situations

    The bunker from which Operation Redfold troops will be activated is called “Pindar.” It is located below the Ministry of Defence and is reportedly used only in times of emergency or all out war. It would seem the UK government is seriously considering that a no deal scenario is indeed serious enough to call for a Brexit doomsday plan to be put into action.

    No Deal Could Have Serious Consequences

    ValueWalk reported in January that a no deal scenario could paralyze air traffic in the UK, and will no doubt affect other means of travel as well. Mobilization of troops, widespread preparation by government departments, and warnings about civil unrest are all signs that a no deal exit from the EU could be detrimental to the short term health of the UK.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-22/no-deal-brexit-doomsday-plan-soldiers-nuclear-bunker-ready-go

    One could sit and wait or help produce another 10,000 posts here on TD. Come on guys and gals, get those comments typed and posted here make TD the go-too site for "informed" commentators.

    One hopes they have unpolluted water bowsers, food stockpiles, charged battery packs for the electric car owners ready for distribution. Do they have any electricity transformers available when the grid is taken out, a la Venezuela? Working backup plans when the Nuclear Plants flip off a la japan?

    Most importantly do the internet system private suppliers have their systems made "tamper-proof" and protected from "exceptional" events?

    The military option has been funded, created, tested, polished and upgraded as required. The Field Marshal, Admiral of the Fleet and Air Force Marshal have assured the PM the soldiers, sailors and airmen, will be back at base by the start of the Eastbourne Tennis Tournament..

    The political option, still being conceived, nourished, medical team educated, deadly injections stored, nah not needed, just publish an online vote.

    Keep up with the times, control the media (sub 160 character "official statements" preferred, government approved emojis encouraged), including lying, misspeaking, deflection. and announce the win/the defeat of the "enemy", over and over and over ......
    can you fook off with your ridiculous propaganda non-sense, and conspiracy shit? this is not the Putin or the Ukraine thread, nutter

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    When Jabir says it seems 50% is from beyond UK borders he is doing what his ilk normally do, lying and deflecting. About 3% is from overseas and, of course, overseas Britons are allowed to sign petitions on this site. The site itself provides data on where signers come from.


    Take it up with the Gov's Parliamentary website, asshole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    He is intelligent, powerful, respected, wealthy, and drinks a lot. I hear you drink a lot too, at least you two have that much in common.
    I drink a lot, sure, mainly water and coconut juice interspersed with tea and Red Cup. Should you ever see me drink anything stronger than 0% alcohol I shall apologise for calling you a liar and a thoroughbred asshole, asshole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The romoaner side is massively funded and has a centralised management which works in parallel with media outlets; using the same phrases, in fact making up the phrases such as 'people's vote' - this is a carefully thought through marketing project which reaches from BBC headlines, MP quotes and marches with banners and flags. It is not the British people's spontaneous voice...

    What we are seeing is how money and planning defeats the will of the people. The fact that Soros and Blair are aligned to this agenda really should make people wake up to what is really happening - it is not as if either Blair or Soros are denying their total contempt for the referendum; they have both explicated their designs to stop it. It's not rocket science...

    I find it hard to believe how well-educated folk have such a total disregard for democratic process instead supporting elitist agitators engaging in endless propaganda; agitators who have made their colours clear over decades.
    jesus, you have become full loon. What about doing a REF2 and see how people have wised up about Brexit?

    scratch that, you fookers need to go, can't go back to the EU, this is the chance of a lifetime for the EU to finally get rid of you as originally envisioned by the great General DeGaulles !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Bettyboo is quite dotty, isn't he. I imagine he is a superannuated overgrown marxist in his middle age but he does seem to think and write like an adolescent.

    Anyone know his age? Has he had a stroke?
    A recent pic from his "trip" report might shed some light..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What about doing a REF2 and see how people have wised up about Brexit?
    The remoan element won't have that. What started as a: let's have a 2nd vote and if it's close we may even have a 3rd vote, has changed to: you can have a vote of remain (and we'll never talk about this again and not allow another referendum on the topic for 50 years) or May's deal.

    I think you'll find that most leavers, at this stage, would put up with another referendum that was fair, i.e.:

    1) Leave with no deal the day after the referendum result then negotiate deals after we have left.
    2) May's deal.
    3) Remain, carry on as before the referendum.

    The winner takes all.

    In the current UK climate, the first would win by a significant margin in my humble opinion - but, there is no way in hell that this would be allowed. Any further referendum would not offer the choice that (the voting majority of) British people have already voted for and want now.

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