Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Only the stupid, the ignorant and the deranged would want this madness.

Bring it on.

indeed, Brexit, the final exit of a grand Empire

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

indeed, Brexit, the final exit of a grand Empire

The house of cards is about to fall.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

And the Pound continues to fall, the sclerotic and desiccated May whores her feeble offer around Europe getting rejected at every turn, while the Tory party that created this disaster plots to replace her in the knowledge the country is being fucked by stupidity and a right wing doctrine that only favours the Tory corporate shills. The entire business and trade industry is now up in arms as the ghastly reality becomes apparent that their lives over 45 years are to be consigned to history and only chaos beckons..

Only the stupid, the ignorant and the deranged would want this madness.

And who is the Tory race between? A lying fat cuvnt, a fucking freak from the 19th Century and an insane journalist with no experience of anything except writing correct grammar.

You couldn't fucking write it.

Secret video of SeekingAsylum leaks onto the interwebs.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Secret video of SeekingAsylum leaks onto the interwebs.

And another.

I am not as convinced as thegent about parity with the dollar, with Trump around anyway. However, parity with the Euro is on the card with a ne deal. It was close to parity until the UK conceded several red lines to the EU last year and was looking okayish until Fox jumped in with his silly remarks.

Too much to lose with Euro parity. Lots of panic talk and project reality expected before a backdown from the UK to ensure the last 20% of the withdrawal deal takes place. The Maybot should change her citizenship to French, being a fine example of a surrender monkey.

Just because you keep saying it, and finding ways to interpret it differently to reality will not make it happen.
The US dollar is more likely to decrease in value due to having an amateur chump as president. He cannot win a trade and protectionism war with China.
while I would be happy to see U.K. inflation at 5%, that is a long way off.
By including the Euro and U.K. inflation in your sad predictions, all you have done is made yourself look an even bigger fool than you were already.
Your fascination with this topic beggars belief.

SeekingAss, look at the bright side, with a fucked and deplorable economy, nobody would want to come to the UK, not even Syrian refugees

I say Mission Accomplished for stopping immigratrion

I can't wait to see it

Originally Posted by david44

...May is playing Texas Hold em with ALL UK cards showing

Even so, don't underestimate her talent for bluffing.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Near parity with the euro was achieved back in 2009 but whereas the mid rate exceeded parity, the real world rate for the Brit punter meant £ sterling was less than a euro and EU holidays became too expensive with most of the lower end fucking off to Egypt and Turkey as a consequence.

The consensus among the market makers is that a hard Brexit will mean sterling at $1.10. That rate in tourist terms means parity but elsewhere it is still significant with fuel and energy costs increasing immediately. Inflation will almost certainly be 5%. Interest rate rises will be inevitable and repayments on gargantuan mortgages will be seismic for thousands. Stagflation is the result here but the demand on wage settlements will almost certainly hype inflation and further undermine the currency.

As I said before, if the Brexit nutters have their way and thwart agreement, parity with the US $ and 85 cents euro is a fact of life.

The shocks to the economy, the loss of free trade with 500 million consumers on our doorstep, the isolation of WTO and the withdrawal of foreign investment will all mean a decade of misery for most of the population but the squeeze on welfare and public expenditure will be like nothing experienced before.

All of this is a racing certainty if the nutters win but the kicker is, they will be hanging from fucking trees when the lower classes finally twig they were suckered.

Hung parliaments with Labour leading marginal governments is the future. In truth, Britain will be struggling for the next 20 years.

Beginning of the end, for Europe, though consolation for malicious Europhiles is that the fallout will sink the UK as well.

German economy struggling and with more stress in the pipeline, Greece due for more free money in the next year or two to bail out Deutsche Bank, Italy and a couple of other pauper states likely to follow, Soros and a string of hedge funds already shorting Deutsche Bank...probably won't happen tomorrow but when the cracks can no longer be papered over with funny money it'll be too late for the 4th Reich and its followers to bail out. Wouldn't surprise me if behind the bluster they're preparing for a continent-wide scramble.

Meanwhile, was it Soros himself or his spokesman who said, “If Britain leaves, it could unleash a general exodus, and the disintegration of the European Union will become practically unavoidable.” Anyone care to speculate whether this evil genius is unloading billions into gold?

And all this without May's timidity, which as posted earlier may well save her if she ends up with such a bad deal that she has to walk away for a hard Brexit, giving EU tyrants the choice between saving face and courting her for a second chance to cooperate for mutual benefit; anyone care to guess which option they would favour?


Either way, if she or her replacement has to go the country they will do so stating the obvious, that the pound and the markets have already priced in Brexit, though there is no way to prepare for the absolute, total disaster of a Corbyn in office, with $/£ parity or worse as markets tank, taxes go through the roof and the brains drain from the UK; and once gone as they did the last time taxes soared, they don't come back.

And anyway, does anyone claim to know Corbyn policies? He’s a career protester voting against everything that falls short of his style of Socialism, whatever that is, never even considered that one day he might have to start making decisions for the country. But upside for him is that young voters know little to nothing about socialism or the human costs of its extreme form.

Back on track, 'experts' give the EU 2 years to infinity, I give 5-10 years.

First you maintain that May, with all her cards showing, should not be underestimated because of her talent for bluffing, now you maintain that the leader of the opposition has never considered that one day he might be making decisions for the country?

What utter nonsense.

So cheap pound = lots more exports + lots of British tourists spending their staycationing fighting for space with cash-laden Chinkies.

Win Win!

^More inflation as well presumably, which may increase retirement payments.

Originally Posted by cyrille

First you maintain that May, with all her cards showing, should not be underestimated because of her talent for bluffing, now you maintain that the leader of the opposition has never considered that one day he might be making decisions for the country?

What utter nonsense.

Try not to let on that soh has totally deserted you.

Next time I shall, specifically for your benefit, add a pretty smilie when being so obviously sarcastic that even the dog falls over holding its belly.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So cheap pound = lots more exports + lots of British tourists spending their staycationing fighting for space with cash-laden Chinkies.

Win Win!

No, it doesn't work like that you neanderthal, unless of course you are spouting Kipper/Tory Brexit rhetoric to fucking morons.

In the previous cycles of diminished value there was little evidence of a proportionate increase in the sale of manufactured goods abroad or the realisation of any increased profit-taking. Many product lines rely on foreign sourced supply chains and with their importation the cost to produce is therefore increased. Now, one could simply increase the sale cost but that would detract from competitiveness risking a loss of a market so the alternative is to absorb the increased costs, maintain price and accept a diminution in profits. This however puts pressure on production since investment is reduced as well as profit sharing with employees who receive less bonuses etc. In truth there is no correlation between devaluation and a sustained benefit to the export of manufactured goods. Also, global economic fluctuations are such that vacillation in world demand determines economic strength and not piddling parochial circumstances - in essence, when your shit is unpopular or unwanted who gives a fuck about how much cheaper it is because your £ is a toilet currency.
But the real kicker in this stupid mantra " cheaper £ means more exports" is the fact that only 9% of GDP is derived from manufacturing only employing around 2.6 million of the 32 million workforce - selling a few more widgets means fuck all to the greater majority.
Britain in broad terms imports 60% of pretty much everything it needs to function - your currency goes down the shitter by another 20%, you is fucked no matter where the fuck you are.

Stagflation is on the menu for the next decade, eat your fucking heart out.

Originally Posted by jabir

He’s a career protester voting against everything that falls short of his style of Socialism, whatever that is, never even considered that one day he might have to start making decisions for the country.

Well that's poorly written so not that easy to decipher, but it isn't really sarcasm, is it?

Just the mumblings of a half-baked swallower of tory propaganda.

A brexiteer had a good rant at work yesterday. Any attempts to pick holes in his argument were met with emotional outbursts of the same points a few dB louder, so pointless. I was more interested in which media outlet he was getting his info from. Hatred of the beeb was apparent and some BS hinted of Daily Express and possibly Daily Mail.

UK growth 6-8 times more than the EU was one that shocked me. I tried to counter but was told my information was false. Not sure where this one comes from...any ideas?

UK trade rise after a hard brexit and return to WTO rules also stumped me.

Obviously no explanation of how the UK will manage after Brexit and far too much being spouted about saving Europe twice last century.

UK unemployment at an all time low was the other main point although no explanation why this was so but wages not increasing and still wanted less EU migrants.

So whose telling the porkies?

Originally Posted by Troy

Hatred of the beeb was apparent

At least partly because of the contrast between the BBC and many mainstream newspapers, no doubt. Basically, the BBC isn't pandering to the right-wing as the press is.

Disproportionate British newspaper coverage of Ukip helped to increase support for the party, according to a new academic study, amid a growing debate on the role the media plays in boosting the popularity of anti-immigrant political parties.
Political scientists at the University of Southampton investigated whether increased media coverage of Ukip caused support for the pro-Brexit party to rise – or whether the opposite is true, and increased public support for Ukip prompted the media to dedicate more space to the party.
The research, published this week in the British Journal of Political Science, concluded there is a direct statistical relationship between the two factors, with increased media coverage slightly aiding Ukip’s subsequent poll ratings.

The research is particularly relevant because of the debate on whether the media is playing a role in boosting support for rightwing activists such as Steve Bannon and Tommy Robinson.
The academic report, which looked at Ukip’s rise and media presence between 2004 and 2017, was adjusted for factors such as the unemployment rate and historic polling on whether voters were concerned about immigration.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ort-study-says

^ Link there to the British Journal of Political Science, for anyone who can't click on a 'Guardian' link.

Maybe the journal is written by pinkos too, of course.

Indeed, the right wing press in the UK is a disgrace. There are only three English publications not sucking the cock of Murdoch and the Establishment, the Guardian, Independent and the Mirror and the Indie isn't actually a newspaper.
No wonder the English are so fucking stupid and ill-informed, preferring bigotry, prejudice and propaganda than enlightenment and the truth.

That Times is now a hotbed of Zionist throbbers. Just abut every fucker there is a Jew portraying how Corbyn eats babies and burns jewish virgins in his Hackney oven.

jewish virgins

have to find one first. horniest ladies on the planet.

Originally Posted by Troy

A brexiteer had a good rant at work yesterday. Any attempts to pick holes in his argument were met with emotional outbursts of the same points a few dB louder, so pointless. I was more interested in which media outlet he was getting his info from. Hatred of the beeb was apparent and some BS hinted of Daily Express and possibly Daily Mail.

UK growth 6-8 times more than the EU was one that shocked me. I tried to counter but was told my information was false. Not sure where this one comes from...any ideas?

UK trade rise after a hard brexit and return to WTO rules also stumped me.

Obviously no explanation of how the UK will manage after Brexit and far too much being spouted about saving Europe twice last century.

UK unemployment at an all time low was the other main point although no explanation why this was so but wages not increasing and still wanted less EU migrants.

So whose telling the porkies?

You actually talk to Brexiteers?

How quaint. One might better spend one's time in engaging a Labrador in a discussion on Hardy's use of irony in his novels.