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    Don't you just love it when someone hoists themself on their own petard.

    As DrB pointed out, you have totally mistaken the point of the article with a description of the totally discredited Jewish revisionist position. Frankly, I very much doubt you even read the article. So lets actually read it. Some snippets-

    The interfaith utopia was to a certain extent a myth; it ignored, or left unmentioned, the legal inferiority of the Jews and periodic outbursts of violence. Yet, when compared to the gloomier history of Jews in the medieval Ashkenazic world of Northern Europe and late medieval Spain , and the far more frequent and severe persecution in those regions, it contained a very large kernel of truth.

    .... This coexistence is particularly evident in economic life. Jews were not limited to a small range of pursuits isolated from the rest of the population in deplored professions like moneylending, as in Europe. They worked as craftsmen, pharmacists, and physicians; as craftsmen in textiles, in glassmaking, and in jewelry; as retailers in the marketplace specializing in a whole host of products, including foodstuffs; in longdistance commerce, as government functionaries; and in many other walks of life.

    In the Islamic marketplace, there existed a substantial degree of interdenominational cooperation. Jews mixed freely with their Muslim counterparts, even forming partnerships, with a minimum of friction. Jews lent money to Muslims, but the reverse was also true.

    ....For all these reasons, the Jews of Islam had substantial confidence in the dhimma system. If they kept a low profile and paid their annual poll tax, they could expect to be protected and to be free from economic discrimination—not to be forcefully converted to Islam, massacred, or expelled. To be sure, the system occasionally broke down. A ruler, goaded by pious Islamic clerics, might crack down on the dhimmīs for ignoring the regulations of the Pact of ‘Umar. But serious persecutions were exceptional.

    https://press.princeton.edu/chapters/p10098.pdf

    Why you would wish to try and push a bunch of discredited falsehoods to, by some bizarre and nonsensical inference, "justify" the ongoing, brutal and illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine is beyond me Herman.

    But if you must, might I recommend you stick to virulent, right wing Zionist blogs- rather than respected works of scholarship? Otherwise, you will only defeat your own purpose.
    Last edited by sabang; 01-12-2016 at 05:41 AM.

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    I can't see why some people claim I did not read or understand my posting

    The price the Jews had to pay for protection was their subordination to Muslim law and accepting the lowest social status within the framework of a peaceful Islamic order.
    The facts are clear. NO religion enjoys "freedom" under Muslim law. Not NOW or centuries ago. Jews where just "easy to keep" for Muslims (not rebellious), and I would call it a one sided symbiosis.
    The Renaissance of Islam ! Has anyone seen it ?

    How can you expect a religion to Love or respect others when they can't even do it among themselves ? Take a very good look at this picture. Think about it !!!


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