"collusion" is not the be all and end all.
"collusion" is not the be all and end all.
First of all, we have not seen what is in the report yet. I am sure trump's lawyers have and are now staging a defence.
There is a difference between, Collusion, prosecutable collusion, prosecutor collusion, and predictable collusion whose results would be worse than not prosecuting.
Then , even if there is no collusion there is such thing as benefiting from a crime,
There is residence.
Even though investors did not collude with Bernie Madoff ,in his criminal endeavour , they did profit, and were made to return such profits.
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
Donald J. Trump is OUR president. The irritating ankle biters have been silenced -- validating His Greatness and allowing him to Make America Great Again without the defeated, angry, hysterical idiots trying to bring him down.
Go on Don, Git 'Er Done!
Dutifully recited, oh indoctrinated one.
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Can you say Second Term locked up or what?
The Shadenfreude scale has red lined, man!
Al Capone didn't get convicted of the worst offences that he committed.
I think Trump will probably go to prison for less than his worst offense.
They should play this every time he comes into the room, a great tune for a great president
speaker pelosi to house dems after the release of barr's summary of the mueller report:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...report-1236888“Be calm. Take a deep breath. Don’t become like them. We have to handle this professionally, officially, patriotically, strategically,” Pelosi said during a closed-door meeting with House Democrats, referring to Republicans.
“Let’s just get the goods,” she said of Mueller’s report.
^ She nailed it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12217042An avowed neo-Nazi who killed one woman and injured 35 others when he ploughed his car into a group of counterprotesters at an infamous rally in Charlottesville pleaded guilty to hate crimes in US federal court.
"...very fine people, on both sides.”
WASHINGTON – Former FBI Director James Comey spoke out in an interview with NBC News Wednesday where he defended the rationale for special counsel Robert Mueller investigating possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Comey, who oversaw the investigation before Mueller and whose firing by President Donald Trump became a component of the investigation, told NBC's Lester Holt that "There was smoke and enough smoke to justify investigating."
"The investigation had to happen. It would have been irresponsible not to investigate. And we don’t investigate, despite what the partisans say, to find a particular result," Comey said. "We investigate to find out what’s true, and as best I can tell, it looks like Bob Mueller was allowed to do that, and that’s a great thing."
He said there is a certain level of partisan hypocrisy in denouncing the investigation and claiming it should not have happened, even suggesting that Republicans would demand an investigation if it were Barack Obama accused of having ties to a foreign power while running for president.
"Obviously, there was overwhelming evidence the Russians were interfering in the election to hurt one candidate and to help the other," Comey said. "Whether Americans were conspiring with him, I didn’t know, but we had to look at that.”
Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America. STILL Making America Great Again!
Witch hunt over. Dems sulking. It's a GREAT day to be American!
Attorney General William Barr quotes Mueller directly saying that while he found Trump had committed no crime, his findings "(do) not exonerate" Trump.
"The special counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " reads Barr’s letter, quoting Mueller.
This. And funny how the GOPers, usually so keen to wear their uber-patriotism on their sleeves, seem to be blind to that and zero-in on the collusion. But "No collusion!" has always been a strawman for Trump and Trumptards."Obviously, there was overwhelming evidence the Russians were interfering in the election to hurt one candidate and to help the other," Comey said. "Whether Americans were conspiring with him, I didn’t know, but we had to look at that.”
All that is known now having none of us seen the actual report is that a guy who auditioned for his job by opining that the president couldn't obstruct justice has given a summary that the president didn't obstruct justice and for his part Trump has, of course, completely misrepresented the findings. Not really surprising.
What is also known from the investigation itself and public records is that it has returned a bunch of indictments, that it acted as a proxy counter-intelligence effort against Russian attempts to interfere in the election and US politics, and that there are an extraordinary number of links between Trump and those in his orbit and Russia and that Mueller was obviously at pains to point out Trump wasn’t exonerated.
This last part is important because Mueller is very clearly a by-the-book kinda guy who took every step in a measured way to ensure it was by the rules. So if his report doesn't exonerate Trump there must still be something pretty damning in it about him even if it wasn’t sufficient to prove criminal intent. And lastly let’s not forget that the WH hasn’t released the report itself yet and don't appear to be in any hurry to either.
So at the end of the day could any informed person say they’d honestly be surprised that Trump's a shady character. No. However the bar has always been set lower and lower for him and where it is now, on the floor and about to have its own trench dug, it basically says that Trumptards are happy enough to expect no more from a president than merely he’s not (yet) a proven criminal. If being unfit for office was a crime he would've been tried and found guilty a long time ago.
SARAH SANDERS, White House press secretary: “The Special Counsel did not find any collusion and did not find any obstruction. AG Barr and DAG (Deputy Attorney general Rod) Rosenstein further determined there was no obstruction. The findings of the Department of Justice are a total and complete exoneration.” — tweet Sunday.
THE FACTS: It was not a total vindication. Mueller’s exact words in the report, as quoted by the attorney general, say otherwise: “While this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.”
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