President Donald Trump

**AntRobertson** · 24-07-2018, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So Elvis turned to me and said....

[Redacted: not allowed to talk about my Special Forces Spec Ops Black Ops missions]

**uncle junior** · 24-07-2018, 01:04 PM

a little comic relief from Larry David about John Kelly frowning at the trump....

can't get it to c&p
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/o...imes&smtyp=cur

**raycarey** · 24-07-2018, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

trumpo's lawyers waived atty/client privlege rights to M Cohen's tapes ....

Explained here, don't understand the reasoning tho

they must think the recordings make cohen look worse than trump.

**Dragonfly** · 24-07-2018, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

I in no way agree with Bernie because barring private industry to move production to wherever they want is far too much fed interference in private business. Secondly, it will result in higher consumer costs. There is a reason companies move production offshore.

actually the only reasons to move production is because it's a more efficient way to produce goods, and avoid companies to waste local resources for less efficient production (less productive)

Fed interference in business is required though, as a regulator role

however the system breaks down if more efficient production are moved offshore, for pure ideology, amd this is clearly the case in some industry, so companies can pollute more and not bother with regulations. In these situations, Fed interference is clearly warranted to stop companies shifting work offshore. This is clearly what all governments should go after.

**mark45y** · 24-07-2018, 02:38 PM

Last oil refinery built in the USA in 1977.

**SKkin** · 24-07-2018, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Because the "interferers" knew how the system worked. They knew the demogrphics and what outcomes for the electoral college would swing things.
Ray mentioned above, since the Dem's server was hacked, the hackers would know the Dem's analytics on top of their own strategising.

And I'm of the opinion that the any shenanigans that put Trump in office were made in America. Jill Stein was on the right trail after the election and the establishment treated her rudely and namecalled her into silence for her troubles.

**SKkin** · 24-07-2018, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

You mean like giving huge tax breaks to corporations, getting rid of environmental protections, attacking the first amendment, overturning Roe v. Wade, gerrymandering voting districts, making health care less effective and more expensive, giving religious organizations special treatment under the law, and separating young children from families?

I didn't say feather our own nest did I...

That said, the corporations have way too much power in this country. How corporate charters are issued needs to be reexamined.

**David48atTD** · 24-07-2018, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

I don't think the USA needs to be in NATO or the UN.

I can understand why the USA, over the coming decades reduces it's commitment to/in NATO.

But, to suggest that the USA withdraw from the UN is rubbish.
Withdrawing from some UN conventions, not in it's best interest ... understandable, but to withdraw
completely is folly.

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From another thread and not related to the above comment.

Referring to the rusted on TRUMP Supporters ...

Originally Posted by jabir

**SKkin** · 24-07-2018, 03:22 PM

We need a lot less of us(the USA) telling other nations that its our way or the highyway...seems we use the UN as a vehicle to do that quite a bit. See the current US Ambassador to the UN.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-07-2018, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

Last oil refinery built in the USA in 1977.

Except for all the ones built (not to mention the ones upgraded) since then.

The newest refineries currently operating in the United States

Year Built	First Operated	Location	Original Owner	Original Capacity b/cd	Current Owner	2018 Capacity b/cd
2016	2017	Corpus Christi, Texas	Magellan Midstream Partners	42,500	Magellan Midstream Partners	42,500
2015	2015	Corpus Christi, Texas	Buckeye Partners	46,250	Buckeye Partners	60,000
2015	2015	Houston, Texas	Petromax Refining	25,000	Petromax Refining	25,000
2014	2015	Dickinson, North Dakota	Dakota Prairie Refining	19,000	Andeavor	19,500
2014	2015	Galena Park, Texas	Kinder Morgan	42,000	Kinder Morgan	84,000
1998	1998	Atmore, Alabama	Goodway	4,100	Goodway	4,100
1993	1993	Valdez, Alaska	Petro Star	26,300	Petro Star	55,000
1991	1992	Ely, Nevada	Petro Source	7,000	Foreland	2,000
1986	1987	North Pole, Alaska	Petro Star	6,700	Petro Star	19,700
1985	1986	Prudhoe Bay, Alaska	ARCO	12,000	ConocoPhillips	15,000
1979	1980	Wilmington, California	Huntway	5,400	Valero	6,300
1978	1979	Vicksburg, Mississippi	Ergon	10,000	Ergon	26,500
1978	1979	North Slope, Alaska	ARCO	13,000	BP Exploration, Alaska	6,500

**harrybarracuda** · 24-07-2018, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

I didn't say feather our own nest did I...

That said, the corporations have way too much power in this country. How corporate charters are issued needs to be reexamined.

No. Citizens United needs to be overturned, and campaign finance needs reforming.

Essentially now they can buy what influence they like.

**mark45y** · 24-07-2018, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

I can understand why the USA, over the coming decades reduces it's commitment to/in NATO.

But, to suggest that the USA withdraw from the UN is rubbish.
Withdrawing from some UN conventions, not in it's best interest ... understandable, but to withdraw
completely is folly.

---

From another thread and not related to the above comment.

Referring to the rusted on TRUMP Supporters ...

How much do various countries contribute to the UN Budget?

70

The General Assembly has directed that percentage shares range from a minimum of 0.001% to a maximum of 22%, and a maximum of 0.01% for those nations designated as “least developed countries.”
The scale of assessments is normally reviewed after every three years. The current time period of assessments is for the years 2016-2018.
Who contributes the most to the regular UN budget?
As expected, United States of America contributes the highest with a share of 22%. USA’s GNP is approximately 27% of the total GNP of all the member countries of the UN and thus its highest share of contribution is justified.
Japan contributes the second highest with 9.68%, followed by China (7.921%), Germany (6.389%), France (4.859%) and UK (4.463%) in the top five. Brazil contributes about 3.823% and is 6^th in this list.
18 Countries contribute more than 1% each to the UN regular budget. 135 countries contribute less than 0.1% each including India’s neighbours Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal.

Out of the 193 countries part of the UN, the top 20 countries contribute 83.78% while the other 173 countries contribute 16.22% only. The top 10 contributors account for 68.89% of the total contributions. The total regular UN budget for the year 2016-17 is $ 5.6 billion.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-07-2018, 05:10 PM

The reason the US puts all this money in is to maintain a disproportionate level of influence over the UN.

You should start shitting yourself when the Chinese offer to pick up the tab.

**bsnub** · 24-07-2018, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Except for all the ones built (not to mention the ones upgraded) since then.

He will not respond to you as you have proven him wrong. That is his MO.

**uncle junior** · 24-07-2018, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

Last oil refinery built in the USA in 1977.

Quit posting hogshit you dumb box of rocks

**AntRobertson** · 24-07-2018, 06:44 PM

It’s true. He was the lead project engineer (subsequent to his Medal of Honor winning military career and whilst on a sabbatical from his Professorial duties at a black womans college).

**mark45y** · 24-07-2018, 07:26 PM

To be honest my wife who is a Thai engineer in the petro chemical business was reading my post and corrected me as there have been a few refining operations built since I left Texas. Nothing big like the million and a half barrels a day at Jamnagar or the 3/4 million barrels per day at Port Arthur. She said the reason no refineries of any size are built in America anymore is because 1 billion needs to be spent in environmental studies before even ground can be broke. She is involved with Samsung's new billion US dollar petrochemical project in Thailand.

**Neo** · 24-07-2018, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

a little comic relief from Larry David about John Kelly frowning at the trump....

can't get it to c&p
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/23/o...imes&smtyp=cur

Is that mark45y in the foreground.?? ��

**Cujo** · 24-07-2018, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

To be honest my wife who is a Thai engineer in the petro chemical business .

FFS.

**AntRobertson** · 24-07-2018, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

My mistress worked for the Army corps of engineers

Originally Posted by mark45y

I used to have a mia noi who was a GS 14 at NATO

Originally Posted by mark45y

To be honest my wife who is a Thai engineer in the petro chemical business was reading my post

You're completely and utterly full of shite aren't you mark.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-07-2018, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

To be honest my wife who is a Thai engineer in the petro chemical business was reading my post and corrected me as there have been a few refining operations built since I left Texas. Nothing big like the million and a half barrels a day at Jamnagar or the 3/4 million barrels per day at Port Arthur. She said the reason no refineries of any size are built in America anymore is because 1 billion needs to be spent in environmental studies before even ground can be broke. She is involved with Samsung's new billion US dollar petrochemical project in Thailand.

Fuck me that's gone up quick then, it was only $790 million when they signed it and they've only just awarded the EPC last week.

Oh, I see. You're bullshitting again.

Silly me.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-07-2018, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by mark45y

To be honest

Yeah OK Walter Mitty.

**Neo** · 24-07-2018, 09:05 PM

Smegesque

**Maanaam** · 24-07-2018, 09:16 PM

Back to Trump.... (I wish you guys would just put him on ignore...please...I'm asking nicely.)
I'm 20 minutes in to this and it's a very good (so far) Young Turks edition.

**raycarey** · 24-07-2018, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by SKkin

Jill Stein

yeah, you keep mentioning her.

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