Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by longway

The story that came out tonight, as reported is false.

"I am not a crook."

On November 17, 1973, President Richard Nixon infamously denied any involvement in the Watergate scandal with his now timeless defense. Thing is, he was.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

At the moment, this seems to be a non-story "story."

Providing you the below quote from Paul Ryan the day after Comey sent a letter to Congress announcing the email investigation regarding HRC was being reopened:

“No one should be above the law. But based upon the director's own statement, it appears damage is being done to the rule of law. Declining to prosecute Secretary Clinton for recklessly mishandling and transmitting national security information will set a terrible precedent. The findings of this investigation also make clear that Secretary Clinton misled the American people when she was confronted with her criminal actions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7fb20332f827

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Open link to read the entire article.

[QUOTE=longway;3533515][QUOTE=Maanaam;3533506]Longway

Originally Posted by longway

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by bsnub

Read this slowly and try to digest what it says.

Done, twice. Yep, read it.
WH claims it's fake news. That's a new one!
Now, you read the following, very slowly, then answer if you can;
So how is this claim any different from dozens of claims of fake news every time the MSM report something that embarrasses Trump?

So now you accept it is a clear and unambiguous denial, rather than side stepping. Welcome back to reality, well a small step closer anyway.

Not at all. The WH, via McMasters, has indeed sidestepped the real issue of what did Trump tell the Russians WRT classified information.
That they also called it fake news does not prove anything.

Originally Posted by longway

I am pointing about the McMaster did not side step the denial of the WaahPoo story:

Have another listen to McMasters. Read the transcript. There is no doubt whatsoever that he sidestepped the real issue, that being that Trump gave the Russians information he shouldn't have.

That the WH says it's fake news is just their normal ingenuous response.

The hysterical libtards on here simultaneously assert that there is no direct denial and not believe the direct denial. Delusional mob in real time.

The story that came out tonight, as reported is false.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

At the moment, this seems to be a non-story "story."

Providing you the below quote from Paul Ryan the day after Comey sent a letter to Congress announcing the email investigation regarding HRC was being reopened:

“No one should be above the law. But based upon the director's own statement, it appears damage is being done to the rule of law. Declining to prosecute Secretary Clinton for recklessly mishandling and transmitting national security information will set a terrible precedent. The findings of this investigation also make clear that Secretary Clinton misled the American people when she was confronted with her criminal actions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7fb20332f827

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Open link to read the entire article.

Thanks for the article link.

I'll read it and respond in about an hour.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

I'll read it and respond in about an hour.

I'm sure we'll all be patiently waiting with baited breath.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

I'll read it and respond in about an hour.

I'm sure we'll all be patiently waiting with baited breath.

Oh dear, I won't be able to sleep.

Originally Posted by Humbert

When the World Is Led by a Child

David Brooks NYT

At certain times Donald Trump has seemed like a budding authoritarian, a corrupt Nixon, a rabble-rousing populist or a big business corporatist.

But as Trump has settled into his White House role, he has given a series of long interviews, and when you study the transcripts it becomes clear that fundamentally he is none of these things.

At base, Trump is an infantalist. There are three tasks that most mature adults have sort of figured out by the time they hit 25. Trump has mastered none of them. Immaturity is becoming the dominant note of his presidency, lack of self-control his leitmotif.

First, most adults have learned to sit still. But mentally, Trump is still a 7-year-old boy who is bouncing around the classroom. Trump’s answers in these interviews are not very long — 200 words at the high end — but he will typically flit through four or five topics before ending up with how unfair the press is to him.

His inability to focus his attention makes it hard for him to learn and master facts. He is ill informed about his own policies and tramples his own talking points. It makes it hard to control his mouth. On an impulse, he will promise a tax reform when his staff has done little of the actual work.

Second, most people of drinking age have achieved some accurate sense of themselves, some internal criteria to measure their own merits and demerits. But Trump seems to need perpetual outside approval to stabilize his sense of self, so he is perpetually desperate for approval, telling heroic fabulist tales about himself.

“In a short period of time I understood everything there was to know about health care,” he told Time. “A lot of the people have said that, some people said it was the single best speech ever made in that chamber,” he told The Associated Press, referring to his joint session speech.

By Trump’s own account, he knows more about aircraft carrier technology than the Navy. According to his interview with The Economist, he invented the phrase “priming the pump” (even though it was famous by 1933). Trump is not only trying to deceive others. His falsehoods are attempts to build a world in which he can feel good for an instant and comfortably deceive himself.

He is thus the all-time record-holder of the Dunning-Kruger effect, the phenomenon in which the incompetent person is too incompetent to understand his own incompetence. Trump thought he’d be celebrated for firing James Comey. He thought his press coverage would grow wildly positive once he won the nomination. He is perpetually surprised because reality does not comport with his fantasies.

Third, by adulthood most people can perceive how others are thinking. For example, they learn subtle arts such as false modesty so they won’t be perceived as obnoxious.

But Trump seems to have not yet developed a theory of mind. Other people are black boxes that supply either affirmation or disapproval. As a result, he is weirdly transparent. He wants people to love him, so he is constantly telling interviewers that he is widely loved. In Trump’s telling, every meeting was scheduled for 15 minutes but his guests stayed two hours because they liked him so much.

Which brings us to the reports that Trump betrayed an intelligence source and leaked secrets to his Russian visitors. From all we know so far, Trump didn’t do it because he is a Russian agent, or for any malevolent intent. He did it because he is sloppy, because he lacks all impulse control, and above all because he is a 7-year-old boy desperate for the approval of those he admires.

The Russian leak story reveals one other thing, the dangerousness of a hollow man.

Our institutions depend on people who have enough engraved character traits to fulfill their assigned duties. But there is perpetually less to Trump than it appears. When we analyze a president’s utterances we tend to assume that there is some substantive process behind the words, that it’s part of some strategic intent.

But Trump’s statements don’t necessarily come from anywhere, lead anywhere or have a permanent reality beyond his wish to be liked at any given instant.

We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

“We badly want to understand Trump, to grasp him,” David Roberts writes in Vox. “It might give us some sense of control, or at least an ability to predict what he will do next. But what if there’s nothing to understand? What if there is no there there?”

And out of that void comes a carelessness that quite possibly betrayed an intelligence source, and endangered a country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/o...smtyp=cur&_r=0

So all this time they spent direly warning everyone that trump was literally hitler was all a big misunderstanding on their part, he is in fact literally a child.

and btw if this so called super secret info is so super secret and important why was it leaked to the waahpoo?

You do realise that if anyone is going to be locked up, it will be the 'source'?

Originally Posted by longway

btw if this so called super secret info is so super secret and important why was it leaked to the waahpoo?

It should be patently obvious to anyone with a few brain cells.

^ no, please enlighten us who dont know why the waahpoo is so obviously entitled to details of highly classified information that can engender lives if leaked.

Its the standard libtard media game: every couple of days come up with some crap to whip up hysteria, then, when it collapses under its own absurdity, repeat the cycle.

Originally Posted by longway

So all this time they spent direly warning everyone that trump was literally hitler was all a big misunderstanding on their part, he is in fact literally a child.

Oh, you want us to look where now? Sorry about your tiny attention span.

Originally Posted by longway

when it collapses under its own absurdity, repeat the cycle.

Collapse? It's piling up like a stinking pile of shit.
The only thing collapsing under the weight of it's own absurdity are your desperate and pathetic attempts at explaining and justifying Trump's idiocy.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by longway

So all this time they spent direly warning everyone that trump was literally hitler was all a big misunderstanding on their part, he is in fact literally a child.

Oh, you want us to look where now? Sorry about your tiny attention span.

Humperdink, you are responding to the wrong post. I have not asked you to look anywhere.

The poor loon's brain is literally melting under the pressure keeping up with the absurd whitterings of the fsm.

Originally Posted by longway

Humperdink, you are responding to the wrong post. I have not asked you to look anywhere.

Whoooosh

Originally Posted by longway

no, please enlighten us who dont know why the waahpoo is so obviously entitled to details of highly classified information that can engender lives if leaked.

The details we're not included in the WaPo article but thanks for the attempt to deflect.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Whoooosh

the sound of wind going through one of humperdink's ears and out the other.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by longway

no, please enlighten us who dont know why the waahpoo is so obviously entitled to details of highly classified information that can engender lives if leaked.

The details we're not included in the WaPo article but thanks for the attempt to deflect.

The details were given to the Waahpoo, why are they being provided with this highly classified information?

Richard Engel‏Verified account @RichardEngel 3h3 hours ago
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Us intel official says Trump talked abt isis interest in laptops, which is why laptops of such concern these days. Says not new info

The anti trump NBC is contradicting the WaahPoo fake news.

https://twitter.com/RichardEngel

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

At the moment, this seems to be a non-story "story."

Providing you the below quote from Paul Ryan the day after Comey sent a letter to Congress announcing the email investigation regarding HRC was being reopened:

“No one should be above the law. But based upon the director's own statement, it appears damage is being done to the rule of law. Declining to prosecute Secretary Clinton for recklessly mishandling and transmitting national security information will set a terrible precedent. The findings of this investigation also make clear that Secretary Clinton misled the American people when she was confronted with her criminal actions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7fb20332f827

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Open link to read the entire article.

OK, I read it. Thanks again.

IMO, it's more political bullsh*t by the media and by both sides.

Trump gave intell to an Ambassador. Was this verbal info? Telling him?

Did he give the info once?


HRC regularly disregarded classified procedures.

As for Ryan's statements: as I said, more political BS, and it was during an election.


My point is: the Washington Post is creating story out of a non-story.

Both sides do this.

Originally Posted by Humbert

When the World Is Led by a Child

so he is harmless after all, so much for him being so dangerous

hillary on the other hand,

Originally Posted by longway

no, please enlighten us who dont know why the waahpoo is so obviously entitled to details of highly classified information that can engender lives if leaked.

The information was already leaked you clueless buffoon to the very people the intelligence community was trying to keep it from. This is clearly far too complex for your simple little mind. Run along and go play in traffic.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

the Washington Post is creating story out of a non-story.

Good god the stupid just keeps piling up.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

so he is harmless after all, so much for him being so dangerous

Do you think an obstreperous, fidgety child who has a tantrum if offended, with access to the nuclear button is not dangerous?