Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by piwanoi

they have been there since 1967 with no signs that they will ever leave so as far as I am concerned

If this is the case (although hardly for you to decide) then it becomes a simple apartheid struggle, leading to the merging of the two states and the granting of citizenship to the Palestinians. Unless of course you are a right wing zionist living in his dreamworld, who just thinks it is possible to expel or eliminate 5.2 million Palestinians living in Palestine so that you can take their land.

But to many Israeli's and Jews, it is much, much more than that- it is a question of the nature of the state of Israel going forward. To some, "Israel as a Jewish state" is the prime concern- and Israel would only be left with a single digit Jewish majority if it combined with Palestine. So they favor the two state solution. To one staters however, eretz or greater Israel is of more importance- a larger, economically stronger, arguably more defensible Israel but with a more diverse population, and a greatly reduced Jewish majority. So which is it to be? What is manifestly the case is that ethnic cleansing and potential genocide are not on the cards, and that the Palestinian population, which is still increasing in Gaza & the West Bank, is not going anywhere.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

which you will steadfastly refuse to read

Actually piwi I find government communications, while not always honest, well worth reading- as opposed to regurgitated right wing Zionist lies, long discredited. So I did. I quote the final paragraph-

I think that Israel has in recent days proved its steadfastness and vigour. It is now willing to demonstrate its instinct for peace. Let us build a new system of relationships from the wreckage of the old. Let us discern across the darkness the vision of a better and a brighter dawn.

How is Israel demonstrating it's 'instinct for peace' by continuing the illegal occupation and creeping colonisation of Palestine, 50 (OK, 49) years later, with no political resolution in sight?

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

they have been there since 1967 with no signs that they will ever leave so as far as I am concerned

If this is the case (although hardly for you to decide) then it becomes a simple apartheid struggle, leading to the merging of the two states and the granting of citizenship to the Palestinians. Unless of course you are a right wing zionist living in his dreamworld, who just thinks it is possible to expel or eliminate 5.2 million Palestinians living in Palestine so that you can take their land.

But to many Israeli's and Jews, it is much, much more than that- it is a question of the nature of the state of Israel going forward. To some, "Israel as a Jewish state" is the prime concern- and Israel would only be left with a single digit Jewish majority if it combined with Palestine. So they favor the two state solution. To one staters however, eretz or greater Israel is of more importance- a larger, economically stronger, arguably more defensible Israel but with a more diverse population, and a greatly reduced Jewish majority. So which is it to be? What is manifestly the case is that ethnic cleansing and potential genocide are not on the cards, and that the Palestinian population, which is still increasing in Gaza & the West Bank, is not going anywhere.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

which you will steadfastly refuse to read

Actually piwi I find government communications, while not always honest, well worth reading- as opposed to regurgitated right wing Zionist lies, long discredited. So I did. I quote the final paragraph-

I think that Israel has in recent days proved its steadfastness and vigour. It is now willing to demonstrate its instinct for peace. Let us build a new system of relationships from the wreckage of the old. Let us discern across the darkness the vision of a better and a brighter dawn.

How is Israel demonstrating it's 'instinct for peace' by continuing the illegal occupation and creeping colonisation of Palestine, 50 (OK, 49) years later, with no political resolution in sight?

You are STILL avoiding the simple question , what was the Joint Armies of Syria ,Egypt and Jordans intentions was when the 6 day war erupted ? and HTF can the Israeli's sit round the Table with Hamas when it simply refuse's to knowledge Israeli's right to exist , Israeli signed a peace deal with both Egypt and Jordan , they could maybe even do it with Mahmoud Abbas in the West bank but Hamas and Gaza a snowball in hells chance.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by piwanoi

they have been there since 1967 with no signs that they will ever leave so as far as I am concerned

If this is the case (although hardly for you to decide) then it becomes a simple apartheid struggle, leading to the merging of the two states and the granting of citizenship to the Palestinians. Unless of course you are a right wing zionist living in his dreamworld, who just thinks it is possible to expel or eliminate 5.2 million Palestinians living in Palestine so that you can take their land.

But to many Israeli's and Jews, it is much, much more than that- it is a question of the nature of the state of Israel going forward. To some, "Israel as a Jewish state" is the prime concern- and Israel would only be left with a single digit Jewish majority if it combined with Palestine. So they favor the two state solution. To one staters however, eretz or greater Israel is of more importance- a larger, economically stronger, arguably more defensible Israel but with a more diverse population, and a greatly reduced Jewish majority. So which is it to be? What is manifestly the case is that ethnic cleansing and potential genocide are not on the cards, and that the Palestinian population, which is still increasing in Gaza & the West Bank, is not going anywhere.

Originally Posted by piwanoi

which you will steadfastly refuse to read

Actually piwi I find government communications, while not always honest, well worth reading- as opposed to regurgitated right wing Zionist lies, long discredited. So I did. I quote the final paragraph-

I think that Israel has in recent days proved its steadfastness and vigour. It is now willing to demonstrate its instinct for peace. Let us build a new system of relationships from the wreckage of the old. Let us discern across the darkness the vision of a better and a brighter dawn.

How is Israel demonstrating it's 'instinct for peace' by continuing the illegal occupation and creeping colonisation of Palestine, 50 (OK, 49) years later, with no political resolution in sight?

You are wasting both our times going on , so from one bigot to another give it a rest eh