Printable View
PeeCoffee , You may want to read this thread which was solely about the Kidnapping and Murder of the 3 Israeli teens ,as I recall you was not a TD member then:) https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...ound-dead.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
:smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTQuote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
That's right, as you can plainly read, the meowling Arabs who now exclusively claim themselves to be the only Palestinians were just one group of residents of the land called Palestine which included all of Jordan and Israel.
The other occupiers of that land were of mixed race, as well as Jews, whom you wish to conveniently ethnically cleanse from your biased accounts.
As you plainly state, non-Arab Palestinians, who were the Jews and Christians living there, were then driven out of Palestine, including Jerusalem,
Also, there's nothing in your post indicating that only Arabs were Palestinians, but that the population was collectively termed Palestinian, according to the name of the Btritish mandated territory of Palestine.
The area was not called lalaland od Jordan or Israel or anything else but Palestine, and all of its residents were termed Palestinian.
More dribbling ranting from our resident Uber Merkin Christian Hate Preacher terrorist Ent.
"The Palestinians are fighting for their rights"
What's not to understand?
:smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing:
Strange Innit , why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus:smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTQuote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
That's right, as you can plainly read, the meowling Arabs who now exclusively claim themselves to be the only Palestinians were just one group of residents of the land called Palestine which included all of Jordan and Israel.
The other occupiers of that land were of mixed race, as well as Jews, whom you wish to conveniently ethnically cleanse from your biased accounts.
As you plainly state, non-Arab Palestinians, who were the Jews and Christians living there, were then driven out of Palestine, including Jerusalem,
Also, there's nothing in your post indicating that only Arabs were Palestinians, but that the population was collectively termed Palestinian, according to the name of the Btritish mandated territory of Palestine.
The area was not called lalaland od Jordan or Israel or anything else but Palestine, and all of its residents were termed Palestinian.
More dribbling ranting from our resident Uber Merkin Christian Hate Preacher terrorist Ent.
"The Palestinians are fighting for their rights"
What's not to understand?
:smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing: :smileylaughing:
What's your theory on that, Piwi?
This should be amusing
I thought you told Dr Bob and ANT you had me on Ignore?, And I see you employing your usual ploy of answering a question with a question:)Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Maybe cos they was not Palestinians then ,and as you say REVERTED BACK to being Pali's in 67 cos they could not stand the thoughts of being ruled by a Zionist state :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Why be so bashful oh MASTER of truth?
Dear Mad Mullah of Manchester - preach to us from your mount that we may learn from your brilliance.
We sit here before you, open mind, open ears, open heart that we may hear your gospel and know the TRUTH from you our divine leader.
Arabs running like camels and hiding behind women and children. Does it ring a adhan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
First they ran from the Brits, French, themselves and now from a few jews. Maybe have to re-think their strategy. Write a new book Quaran 2.0. The old version is obsolete and doesn't seem to work anymore, except for keeping a few females locked up.
Claiming the 5th again eh ,normal procedure for you, and as you are posting me what you said to Dr Bob and ANT that you have put me on ignore is a complete fabrication eh?:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Hush Herman.
We are all waiting the wise words of our spiritual leader, Piwi, the Mad Mullah of Manchester.
Come on Piwi. I do not think you have ever once ventured to share your knowledge with us. You make comments like you started with, and then when you receive a reply, you either ignore it, or make a post likeSo for a change, lets hear your wisdomQuote:
"yeah but HEH Ent they didn't say that at agnincourt like I did in post #1341 :rofl:"
Well whats certain we won't get any from you, its either silence or a complete load of bollox , I will ask you again if the Pali's were as you say fighting for their rights why did they not fight for them when Gaza was part of Egypt ,and the West Bank part of Jordan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
I see Pee Coffee asked you a question in his post 918 so far without a reply ,is he on ignore too?:rofl:
NO Piwi - you made a point as if you knew the answer, or had an idea, so let's hear it
What is your opinion on this? You raised it, so let's hear it. Or, could it be that the Mad Mullah of Manchester hasn't a clue?Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
Missed this PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
They didn't. They never claimed responsibility for it.
There were, as I recall, one or two of the perpetrators involved in it that had some VERY loose connection to the event were on the frignes of HAMAS, but it was not a Hamas plot or activity. It was some nasty murderous bastards, same as the settlers who burned a child alive in revenge.
When the BIbi Ruse was being played out that they were still alive, some exiled Palestinian folk were cheering it on, thinking it was a gambit to exchange them for some of the thousands of Palestinians in indefinite detention in israel, but alas, the boys were already dead and Bibi had his excuse to ditch peace talks and go back to murdering again. They basically did not know, as BIBI and Washington knew, that the boys were already dead within 24 hours of going missing. If you want to see the blatant lies of these israeli and MErkin politicians, watch their press conferences at the time. They knew they were dead, but obomba, fake tear in his eye, claiming he thought they were still alive. Morally corrupt and disgusting of course.
Interesting though that ISIS claimed responsibility for it, but that is nonsense, because, well, as we know, ISIS get medical treatment in the occupied Golan Heights from Israel and are not likely to bite the hand that feeds them. Most put this claim down to either ISIS wanting to pretend they are not supported by israel, which they are or Shin bet / Mossad wanting to claim that Hamas is ISIS making it up. Probably both.
Come on Piwanoi - Lets see your answer oh great one. Are you scared?Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
They Never claimed responsibility ? Really Psuedo ? you had better read the link in my post 919 ,just one of a dozen or so links all saying they did ,want me to post em all?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Which post did I make a point that I knew the answer ,give me the number ?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusNO Piwi - you made a point as if you knew the answer, or had an idea, so let's hear it
What is your opinion on this? You raised it, so let's hear it. Or, could it be that the Mad Mullah of Manchester hasn't a clue?Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
No Piwi - you are wrong as usual. Those hamas guys you are blaming were trying to use it for political advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoiThey Never claimed responsibility ? Really Psuedo ? you had better read the link in my post 919 ,just one of a dozen or so links all saying they did ,want me to post em all?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
They never claimed responsibility for the murder of those kids. Never. Also, look at the DATE of this claim. CBS/AP August 21, 2014, 3:24 PM
Gaza had already been under attack for over a month at that point.
now, once again,
Why? What is your idea about this.Quote:
why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?
You must not be able to read , the article along with a dozen others all say the same the Senior Hamas leader claimed Hamas's responsibility for the kidnap and murder of the 3 Israeli boys, its all there in the link in my post 919 , carry on cos every one especially PeeCoffee must be veritably wetting his pants reading your denial:smileylaughing: .Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusNo Piwi - you are wrong as usual. Those hamas guys you are blaming were trying to use it for political advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoiThey Never claimed responsibility ? Really Psuedo ? you had better read the link in my post 919 ,just one of a dozen or so links all saying they did ,want me to post em all?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
They never claimed responsibility for the murder of those kids. Never. Also, look at the DATE of this claim. CBS/AP August 21, 2014, 3:24 PM
Gaza had already been under attack for over a month at that point.
now, once again,
Why? What is your idea about this.Quote:
why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?
I asked the question ,now if you gonna keep claiming the fifth forget and we can move onto your insane claim that the Hamas did not accept responsibility for the deaths and kidnapping of the 3 Israeli teens .Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusNo Piwi - you are wrong as usual. Those hamas guys you are blaming were trying to use it for political advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoiThey Never claimed responsibility ? Really Psuedo ? you had better read the link in my post 919 ,just one of a dozen or so links all saying they did ,want me to post em all?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
They never claimed responsibility for the murder of those kids. Never. Also, look at the DATE of this claim. CBS/AP August 21, 2014, 3:24 PM
Gaza had already been under attack for over a month at that point.
now, once again,
Why? What is your idea about this.Quote:
why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
No. Because Hamas never claimed responsibility for the murder of those kids. Some shite from CBS or the other apologist western media 2 months after the event, at a time when israel is finally being condemned for the bombing of 17 UN refugee Shelters is NOT Hamas saying they murdered 3 kids .
Anyway, scared little PIWI. Why are you scared of answering this?
Why? You seem to know everything so share the light.Quote:
why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?
That was MY question you clown ,you want me to answer my OWN question?:smileylaughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusQuote:
Originally Posted by piwanoi
No. Because Hamas never claimed responsibility for the murder of those kids. Some shite from CBS or the other apologist western media 2 months after the event, at a time when israel is finally being condemned for the bombing of 17 UN refugee Shelters is NOT Hamas saying they murdered 3 kids .
Anyway, scared little PIWI. Why are you scared of answering this?
Why? You seem to know everything so share the light.Quote:
why did'nt they fight for their rights when Gaza was under Egyptian Control and the West Bank Under the Jordanians pre 1967 ?
Yes - you seem to think you know everything, so why not have a go.
Oh and don't just post a google search link as your answer. That is pathetic.
Oh and before this "Hamas said they planned and killed these kids" lie goes any further, try and actually READ the articles you post to refute it.
1 - the story originates from Times of Israel, reporting on the "confession" under torture of Hussam Kawasme, the supposed ring leader.
2 - The story was then that Hamas had given money for the operation, but the operation required no money. Pick up three lads and kill them. Not expensive.
3 - Then there is a statement from some knob in Turkey Saleh Al-Arouri an exiled hamas "leader"
This is the confession you are alluding to, but it is not. It's a daft pratt in Turkey doing israels work for them.
Israel shoots dead two Palestinians suspected of killing abducted teenagers | World news | The Guardian
Quote:
The two men were affiliated with the Hamas militant group which runs Gaza. A group leader praised the kidnappings in August, though other top officials denied any advance knowledge.
Stall,stall 'stall, you want me to have a go at answering my own question ? If I knew the answer I WOULD NOT be asking you the question ,but giving my reasons outright you Loon , you tried to twist it cos you ain;t a clue , now go and play some were else cos its impossible to debate with a guy who lives in Psuedoland :rofl:.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Don't put yourself down Mad Mullah - you know everything. Any time anyone responds to your dribble, you then say it is wrong, laugh, but never put forward what you think. You've been the same for YEARS.Quote:
Originally Posted by piwanoiStall,stall 'stall, you want me to have a go at answering my own question ? If I knew the answer I WOULD NOT be asking you the question ,but giving my reasons outright you Loon , you tried to twist it cos you ain;t a clue , now go and play some were else cos its impossible to debate with a guy who lives in Psuedoland :rofl:.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
So, from now on, lets hear your wisdom. Why are you scared PIWI? What's wrong? Scared dribbler man having actually front up for once, got you nervous? :rofl:
Same shyte, different day. Pseudolus is the absolute truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
All and any other account or version lacks in parallel to Psue narrative.
Funny that "pratt" Saleh ah-Nouri, one of the founders of Hamas' military wing stated at a conference 21 August 2014 in Turkey that members of Hamas' armed wing Qassam Brigades had kidnapped and killed the three teenagers.
His claim was not supported by Hamas political leaders. Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said that Hamas members may have been behind the killings but that they were not acting on the direct orders of Hamas' political leadership.
22 August 2014 Hamas executes 21 "suspected informers".
Doesn't matter if it is The Guardian , The Independent or NPR.org...it's all bollocks.
Whatever Psue writes is the gospel. I'm a believer. Take me Lord for I have seen the light. :sexy:
Don't ask Psuedo a question or he'll ask you to answer it for him:)Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffeeSame shyte, different day. Pseudolus is the absolute truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
All and any other account or version lacks in parallel to Psue narrative.
Funny that "pratt" Saleh ah-Nouri, one of the founders of Hamas' military wing stated at a conference 21 August 2014 in Turkey that members of Hamas' armed wing Qassam Brigades had kidnapped and killed the three teenagers.
His claim was not supported by Hamas political leaders. Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said that Hamas members may have been behind the killings but that they were not acting on the direct orders of Hamas' political leadership.
22 August 2014 Hamas executes 21 "suspected informers".
Doesn't matter if it is The Guardian , The Independent or NPR.org...it's all bollocks.
Whatever Psue writes is the gospel. I'm a believer. Take me Lord for I have seen the light. :sexy:
Ahhh yes, anything israel says is the truthQuote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffeeSame shyte, different day. Pseudolus is the absolute truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
All and any other account or version lacks in parallel to Psue narrative.
Funny that "pratt" Saleh ah-Nouri, one of the founders of Hamas' military wing stated at a conference 21 August 2014 in Turkey that members of Hamas' armed wing Qassam Brigades had kidnapped and killed the three teenagers.
His claim was not supported by Hamas political leaders. Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal said that Hamas members may have been behind the killings but that they were not acting on the direct orders of Hamas' political leadership.
22 August 2014 Hamas executes 21 "suspected informers".
Doesn't matter if it is The Guardian , The Independent or NPR.org...it's all bollocks.
Whatever Psue writes is the gospel. I'm a believer. Take me Lord for I have seen the light. :sexy:
go back and look again and find someone in Palestine (Hebron ideally) who represents Hamas in Palestine that says "yes, we had advanced knowledge of the kidnap and murder. Yes we funded it and planned it. Yes we take full responsibility for it".
All you fools come to the table with is misquoted, and yes, misquoted because if you read the transcript of what he said, he didn't even say any of the above, just said that the militant branch did it, not Hamas, versions pumped out by the pro israeli press, circulating at time when israel was being threatened with war crimes trial until the US quashed it as usual.
Also what you fools never respond to either is ;
1 -These kids were kidnapped by some louts in Hebron. What the fuck has that got to do with Gaza? Why did they need the collective punishment?
2 - Bibi knew that the kids were dead in 24 hours. Why did he pretend they were not for 2 weeks, and murder 74 civilians in the west bank as he PRETENDED to look for them? Do you think that is acceptable?
3 - Obomba know the kids were dead with 48 hours, and yet we had 2 weeks of him saying "return the kids". Do you excuse his lying? What is the justification for it?
Try responding to these peebrain (no, not you Piwi, as you do not answer anything)
As Stated before Pee Coffee don't ask Psuedo a question, cos he will accuse you of not answering it :rofl:
Yes, but what he did not say was that HAMAS, which is who you are trying to blame, had prewarning of it, were involved in it, funded it, or anything like that. So the headline "HAMAS admits" is completely false.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
Also, he is removed from Palestine and Hamas. Sitting in Turkey and has/had very little to do with Hamas at all
Exactly. So HAMAS did not do it. You are seemingly confused by the israeli and US lie that Hamas is a terrorist organistation. It is not. Hamas is no different to Sinn Fein. SF would no more take responsibility for the planning and execution of the kidnapping and murder of three british lads that had been carried out by some fringe members of an outpost republican resistance group. The same is true here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
Now you can play your stupid little games if you like, but it is nonsense, and yes, yet again, you are wrong. The tell tale sign of posting anything that is factually incorrect is if piwanoi agrees with you. If he does, you are wrong. That is a very simple but accurate guide for you to use in future to check the veracity of you "play the man, not the ball" tactics. :rofl:
Remember the Golan Heights?
During the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, Syrian forces had surprised Israel and were fast approaching the edge of the steep Golan Heights, captured by Israel during the 1967 war. It seemed as if Syrian armor and infantry would retake Golan, then pour down into Israeli Galilee.
Soviet recon satellites observed Israel moving its nuclear-armed, 500km-range Jericho missiles out of protective caves and onto their launch pads. At the same time, Israel was seen loading nuclear bombs on their US-supplied F-4 fighter-bombers at Tel Nof airbase.
Believing Israel was about to use nuclear weapons against Syria and Egypt, Moscow put huge pressure on both to rein in their advancing forces. Damascus, already in range of Israeli artillery on Golan, ordered its armored forces on Golan to halt, allowing Israel to mount powerful counter-attacks and retake the strategic heights.
In 1981, Israel formally annexed the 580 sq. mile portion of Golan that it occupied. This illegal annexation was condemned by the United Nations, the United States and Europe’ powers. But Israel held on to Golan and implanted 50,000 there in some 41 subsidized settlements.
The world has pretty much forgotten how close it came to nuclear war in 1973 over Golan. The heights became a primary nuclear trigger point along with Kashmir, Germany’s Fulda Gap, and the DMZ, Korea’s inner border.
Golan recently resurfaced in the news when Israel’s rightwing prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, told Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, that his nation would never return Golan to Syria. In a speech soon after, Netanyahu vowed Israel would hold on to Golan for “all eternity.” He also admitted for the first time that Israel had made “dozens” of cross-border attacks on Syria.
The long basalt plateau is indeed a valuable prize. It extends from snow-capped, 9,200 ft. (2,814 meter Mt. Hermon in the north to the Sea of Galilee and Yarmouk River in the south. Golan supplies 15% of Israel’s scarce water and may contain gas or petroleum deposits.
Israeli artillery on Golan can hit Syria’s capitol Damascus; Israeli electronic sensors blanket Damascus and cover all Syrian military movement below. Having walked much of the Golan on both Syrian and Israeli-held sides, I can attest to its remarkable military importance and thick defenses.
After the 1967 war, Israel ethnically cleansed Golan, leveling the capital, Kuneitra, with bulldozers and expelled almost all Golan’s 130,000 Druze and Arab inhabitants. Jewish settlers were brought in to replace them. The US shielded Israel from UN action and world-wide protests.
Before 2011, Israel hinted that it would return Golan to Syria as part of a comprehensive peace agreement – provided Damascus ceased supporting Palestinian claims to their lost lands. But once the Syrian civil war conveniently began, there was no more talk of Golan.
In fact, it’s pretty much clear that Israel has been quietly fueling the Syrian conflict by discreet arms and logistics support to so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels and lobbying for the war in Washington and with the US media. Netanyahu has even said – with a straight face – that Israel cannot return Golan or even negotiate, until calm returns to Syria and Iraq.
Netanyahu is clearly following the grand strategy of the founder of his rightwing Likud Party, Zeev Jabotinsky, a militant Russian Zionist. Jabotinsky asserted that the Arab states were an artificial, fragile mosaic of inimical Arab tribes.
Hit them hard enough, claimed Jabotinsky, and they will shatter into small pieces, leaving Israel master of the Levant (central Arab world). The destruction of Iraq and Syria have confirmed Jabotinsky’s theory.
Accordingly, Israel is delighted to see Syria, a primary foe, lying in ruins as a result of a US, British, French, Turkish and Saudi-instigated civil war. Damascus is in no shape to demand the return of Golan, and the rest of the world does not care.
The destruction of Syria as a unitary state offers the expansionist Likud government many opportunities to extend influence into Syria – as was the case in Lebanon during its bloody 1975-1990 civil war. Or even carve off more Syrian territory “to protect Israel’s security.”
The words of Israel’s founding father, David Ben-Gurion, still resonate: the state of Israel is a work in progress and its borders should not be fixed or even defined. Notably the borders with Syria and Jordan.
The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Remember the Golan Heights?
Jerusalem Post Editorial: Sykes-Picot’s demise By JPOST EDITORIAL
05/15/2016
Sykes-Picot is not to blame for the disintegration of Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, rather it is the autocratic nature of these countries’ political leaderships. One hundred years ago today Great Britain and France split between themselves spheres of influences in a disintegrating Ottoman Empire. The secret arrangement was called the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
Roughly speaking, it created the boundaries of the Levant as we know it.
But history seems to have taken its revenge on British diplomat Mark Sykes and his French counterpart, François Georges-Picot, who hammered out the agreement that bears their names.
Syria is gradually splintering into multiple entities. Iraq is fracturing along sectarian lines of its own. Shi’ite areas in southern Iraq close to the border with Kuwait are increasingly pressing for autonomy, with support from Iran. And Sunni tribes in Iraq have joined forces against the Assad regime, creating yet another distinct sectarian group in Iraq. Libya is no longer a single national entity and Yemen is being torn apart between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Even countries not created by Sykes-Picot such as Egypt are undergoing turmoil and instability.
It is no wonder that commentators, journalists and analysts of the Middle East – including the The Jerusalem Post’s editorial board – have for some time now declared the demise of Sykes-Picot.
Yet, among all the upheaval and bloodshed that we have witnessed in the region that has led to the breakdown of Sykes-Picot, there remains one oasis of stability: the State of Israel. And this is not a coincidence.
Part of the reason has to do with the national character of Israel. Unlike artificial national constructions such as Syria and Iraq that contain diverse populations, Israel was created for a specific people with a shared history, culture and religion. With all its internal conflicts – between religious and secular, Ashkenazi and Sephardi – there is nevertheless a common denominator that brings together the vast majority of Israelis.
But Israel’s relatively homogeneous population is only part of the explanation for its success. Much more significant is the fact that Israel remains the only democracy in the Middle East. The disintegration of the old order in the region is more about the failure of corrupt, inept and violent autocratic regimes than about contrived borders that ignored ethnic, sectarian and cultural differences.
Sykes-Picot is not to blame for the disintegration of Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, rather it is the autocratic nature of these countries’ political leaderships.
The Syrian conflict began as an uprising by all Syrians – men and women, young and old, Sunni, Shi’ite, Kurdish and even Alawite – against an unfair, corrupt autocrat out of touch with or callous to his people’s aspirations. And this was true for Libyans, Egyptians, Tunisians, Yemenis, and Bahrainis as well in 2010 and 2011.
In the midst of this upheaval, Israel stands out as a beacon of stability, freedom and economic prosperity. An advanced military based on a people’s army that is committed to the highest level of ethical conduct is successful at incorporating a broad spectrum of diverse populations – including Beduin, Druse and Christians.
While Israel is a Jewish state with Jewish symbols and legislation that gives priority to Jews in areas such as immigration, the country’s democracy also protects the basic human rights of a large non-Jewish minority. All citizens enjoy equality before the law, freedom of speech, the right to vote and other basic democratic rights.
Israel’s dynamic economy offers all citizens economic opportunities on par with other advanced economies.
This is not to say that tensions do not exist with Israeli society. These tensions are, however, manageable within the framework of democratic give and take and do not threaten to tear apart the fabric of society.
In the near future as part of an end to the civil war tearing apart Syria, talk will turn to carving up territories that were once under the control of the Assad regime. A coastal region will most likely be delivered to those loyal to the Alawite Bashar Assad regime; another yet-to-be-determined swath of territory will fall under the control of Sunni opposition forces; and a Kurdish enclave with ties to north Iraq and Kurds in Turkey will probably be carved out as well.
Within the framework of such an arrangement, it is time that the world recognize Israel’s 1981 de facto annexation of the Golan Heights. A century after Sykes-Picot, no other country in the region has provided more proof of its stability.
Now is the time to recognize it.
Jerusalem Post Editorial: Sykes-Picot?s demise - Opinion - Jerusalem Post
Ahhhhh a marvellous rewriting of history there herman. Almost every detail tweaked or wholesale changed to detract from the actual truth that it was a war of aggression started by israel for a land grab.
Why not just simply start pasting up joan peters quotes and be done with it. If you are going to lie you might as well go to source and get the lies direct rather than the recycled versions you puked up
Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon resigns
Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Yaalon has resigned, warning that Israel has been taken over by "dangerous and extreme elements".
It comes as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu seeks to bring hardliner Avigdor Lieberman into the coalition, possibly as defence minister.
...
Announcing his decision on Twitter, Mr Yaalon said: "I informed the PM that after his conduct and recent developments, and given the lack of faith in him, I am resigning from the government and parliament and taking a break from political life."
...
Moldovan-born Mr Lieberman, who lives in an Israeli settlement in the occupied West Bank, advocates a tough line towards dealing with the Palestinians, including the overthrow of Gaza's Hamas rulers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36340185
Not good...
Israel stands no hope of legitimising it's illegal occupation of Golan, or Itself for that matter, until it sorts out the situation with the illegal and brutal occupation of Palestine. One State, or Two??
well that is debatable with butcher bibi at the helm - it could hardly be worse with that cu nt in charge. The fact that he is openly upping the ante with Avi Lieberman is just appalling. Yalon is a fricking psycho anyway, but Avi? He's like a nastier version of Dr Mengele Himmler and Göring rolled into one, with elements of ent piwi and herman in there to really up the nastiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bettyboo
Although I would love to see 1 state, I just don't think it can happen now. The decent israelis are far out numbered by the psycho ones now, so the best we can hope for is initially a 2 state solution, a fair and just solution to the refugee situation, and the UN enforcing the law. The latter is where it needs to start though, along with ending the blockade.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
Then given time, there might come a time when the country combines as one with the moderate normal israelis asking for it, rather than the psychotic twats demanding it on condition all the arabs are dead.
By Dr. Elias Akleh
Al-Nakba is an Arabic term that means the deliberate infliction of a catastrophe on a nation. This term is usually used to refer to the brutal Zionist occupation of Palestine. Sixty eight years ago, in 1948, Zionist Jewish terrorist gangs forcibly occupied the most fertile parts of Palestine, razed to the ground more than 500 Palestinian towns – with their homes, businesses, schools, churches and mosques -, perpetrated at least 50 collective massacres against Palestinian civilians including especially women and children, and forcefully evicted about 800,000 Palestinians out of their homeland, making them refugees living under the mercy of UNRWA.
When talking about Al-Nakba people in general see only a small fraction of the whole picture. They think Al-Nakba refers only to the plight of Palestinians and the Zionist occupation of Palestine. The real Nakba; the whole picture, includes the whole region of the Middle East; the heart of the Arab World.
Al-Nakba is a Zionist military scheme meant to be executed in stages throughout time until the Zionist project of Greater Israel from Nile to Euphrates is accomplished. This scheme was originally envisioned three thousand years ago by the Judaic Talmudic Pharisees, but was not executable until mid-nineteenth century. Although the first stage of the Nakba has officially started in 1948 with the Zionist occupation of Palestine, it actually started, although covertly, years before this date with the gradual immigration of Zionist Jews to Palestine, and with the Jewish Fund purchasing land from the Ottoman feudal occupiers and the evictions of Palestinian farming communities working this land.
The second stage of the Nakba started in 1967 with what is known as the Six-Days War, when the terrorist state of Israel occupied the rest of Palestine, the Sinai and the Golan Heights. At the time evacuation orders drove 400,000 more Palestinians out of their towns into more refugee camps out of their home land. This Judaic cleansing of Palestinians is still going on in many different forms including the theft of Palestinian land for Zionist Jewish settlements (colonies), the routinely on-going demolitions of Palestinian homes especially in Jerusalem and its suburbs, the revocation of residency rights and deportations of Palestinians, the Zionist extremist settlers’ forced occupation of Palestinians homes under the protection of Israeli armed forces and eviction of Palestinian families out, the brutal military operations into several Palestinian cities, the daily murder of Palestinian children by Israeli soldiers, and the inhumane starving siege and the periodic bombardments of the Gaza Strip.
The third stage of the Nakba, which was directed against Lebanon was a failure, since Israel could not expand further north despite all the destruction inflicted on Lebanon. Israel had carried many military campaigns against Lebanon. Israel financed and armed Lebanese Maronite military factions to fight PLO and Palestinian camps in Beirut. This incited a civil war that lasted 25 years, from 1975 to 1990, causing a huge devastation to Lebanese infrastructure and the death of an estimated 250,000 people.
Israel did not stay idle during the time, but invaded Southern Lebanon several times. In 1978 Israel invaded southern Lebanon but pulled out after establishing a border buffer zone within Lebanese area when a U.N. peacekeeping force was deployed to the area. A wider scale Israeli invasion of Lebanon took place in 1982 that eventually led to the evacuation of the PLO from Lebanon under the supervision and protection of the American and French Multinational Force in Lebanon, who established their own barracks in Beirut.
Yet when Israel and the Multinational Force did not leave the country Lebanese formed a resistance movement, later known as Hezbollah, and carried operations against the occupiers. The American/French Multinational Force withdrew from Lebanon after the April 1983 suicide bombing of the American Embassy and barracks and the October 1983 bombing of the French Drakkar barracks. Israel eventually withdrew from southern Lebanon in 2000 but kept the Sheba’a Farms; a border part of southern Lebanon. Israel again launched a 34 day war against Lebanon in 2006 in an attempt to destroy Hezbollah, but faced strong resistance and suffered high casualties.
The fourth stage took place in Iraq in 2003 when the U.S. invaded and devastated the country. Iraq was a major military power in the region. With strong economy and advanced industry Iraq posed a threat to Israel. Tired of the many wars the Israeli army had waged against Palestinian resistance and against Lebanon, Israelis started looking for a proxy army to fight its wars. What is a better army to fight Israel’s wars other than the American army!
Many scientific, military and political investigations point to the fact that Israeli Mossad agents and Zionist American Neocons perpetrated the 911 attacks. The attack was needed to justify American “wars on terror” in the Middle East, specifically against Iraq. Iraq’s infrastructure and industry were destroyed by the American army. Iraqis suffer their own version of Nakba with a very conservative count of 500,000 killed according to the Huffington Post. The real number of killed people could never be known especially when nobody cared to count the casualties. The use of DU (depleted uranium) by the American forces is still causing high rates of death and infant deformation. Almost 4,000,000 Iraqis became refugees; half within Iraq while the other half in the neighboring countries. The fighting is still going on in Iraq through Israeli/American proxy terrorist groups such as ISIS. This was war for Israel.
The fifth stage of the real Nakba was conceitly called the Arab Spring. This was a heinously satanic plan to have Israel’s enemies fight each other in internal sectarian civil wars. This requires the U.S. to sacrifice a couple of the Arab dictators it had supported for a long time in order to give the population the illusion that change is possible. This Arab Spring started in Tunisia in December 2010 getting rid of Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, then followed by Hosni Mubarak of Egypt. These staged revolutions eventually produced as bad dictators. Real popular demonstration/revolutions in other Arab states were brutally crushed and oppressed, especially in Bahrain and Yemen that were crushed by Saudi forces. The Saudi war against Yemen is still going on until today.
This Arab Spring was used to stage revolution against Libya’s Gadhafi, who proposed a golden Dinar as a new African currency. Israel and the U.S. with the cooperation of Qatar shipped al-Qaeda terrorists to Libya, financed and armed them to devastate the country.
The real target of the Arab Spring was Syria, who during the 2006 Israeli war against Lebanon, had shipped weapons to Hezbollah. Robert Ford; the US Ambassador to Syria between 2011 – 2014, was the architect and financer of the rebellion demonstrations against Syrian regime. When these demonstrations did not succeed due to popular support to Al-Assad regime, mercenaries and terrorists were brought in from all over the world including European countries to form terrorist groups such as Al-nusra Front and ISIS to destroy Syria. Robert Ford still insists, contrary to all evidence, that these terrorists are “… moderate and democrats seeking to change Syria’s autocratic system” justifying his financing and arming these terrorists.
These Israeli/American/Qatari/Saudi/Turkish financed and armed terrorist groups had destroyed much of Syria, murdered hundreds of thousands of Syrian civilians, and drove out of the country almost four million Syrians causing a huge refugee crisis. These refugees were abused, taken advantage of, and manipulated to immigrate to Europe.
This is the real Nakba that is hitting one Arab country after the other destroying cities, creating chaos, and causing a huge influx of refugees; people evacuating their own country out of fear for their lives. Ruined, weakened and almost evacuated from large part of their populations, Arab countries bordering the terrorist state of Israel would not be able to stop Israeli expansion to accomplish the Zionist dream of Greater Israel.
The real Nakba is the Arab Nakba and the Palestinian Nakba is just a part of it.
The Real Nakba - Intifada Palestine
Al Nakba, an Arab theory designed to fit all their ills into a perceived Zionist plot.
They'll be making an opera of it next.