All this fixation on the 50 year old '67 war- and not a mention of the 1973 Yom Kippur war. But I think you'll find that worries an actual Israeli much, much more. Uncle Sam to the rescue.
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All this fixation on the 50 year old '67 war- and not a mention of the 1973 Yom Kippur war. But I think you'll find that worries an actual Israeli much, much more. Uncle Sam to the rescue.
It's the one where Uncle Sam bailed Israel's arse out- and that is the obvious reason why an Israeli is much more concerned about it than 1967 chutzpah. Israeli paranoia about security will never be assuaged until the illegal occupation is sorted out.
There's nothing illegal about it.
The UN Security Council, the UNGA, the Red Cross, the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Convention, and the International Court of Justice have declared it illegal. Even the US consider the occupations illegal. In fact, only Israel and some lobelia-smoking freak in ChiangMai consider the occupations legal and Israel will now no doubt be reconsidering its position rather than be associated with the lobelia-smoking freak.
They could not have baled them out that well as the Israeli's were massively outnumbered both in men and ordnance Yom Kippur War - New World Encyclopedia Try and force yourself to read it ,its all there :)
You are obviously no Biblical scholar. Did you even pass your O levels?
Just enough to learn how to read :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIUnQ7mv0Y0
Choose ye an island!
Fortify it!
Dung it about with enginery of war!
I will give you a war-engine.
With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you.
Lurk! Withdraw! Upon them! this is the Law of the Battle of Conquest: thus shall my worship be about my secret house.
Get the stélé of revealing itself; set it in thy secret temple—and that temple is already aright disposed—& it shall be your Kiblah for ever. It shall not fade, but miraculous colour shall come back to it day after day. Close it in locked glass for a proof to the world.
This shall be your only proof. I forbid argument. Conquer! That is enough. I will make easy to you the abstruction from the ill-ordered house in the Victorious City. Thou shalt thyself convey it with worship, o prophet, though thou likest it not. Thou shalt have danger & trouble. Worship me with fire & blood; worship me with swords & with spears. Let the woman be girt with a sword before me: let blood flow to my name. Trample down the Heathen; be upon them, o warrior, I will give you of their flesh to eat!
Sacrifice cattle, little and big: after a child.
But not now.
Ye shall see that hour, o blessèd Beast, and thou the Scarlet Concubine of his desire!
Ye shall be sad thereof.
Deem not too eagerly to catch the promises; fear not to undergo the curses. Ye, even ye, know not this meaning all.
Fear not at all; fear neither men nor Fates, nor gods, nor anything. Money fear not, nor laughter of the folk folly, nor any other power in heaven or upon the earth or under the earth. I am the strength, force, vigour, of your arms.
Mercy let be off: damn them who pity! Kill and torture; spare not; be upon them!
That stélé they shall call the Abomination of Desolation; count well its name, & it shall be to you as 718.
Why? Because of the fall of Because, that he is not there again.
Set up my image in the East: thou shalt buy thee an image which I will show thee, especial, not unlike the one thou knowest. And it shall be suddenly easy for thee to do this.
The other images group around me to support me: let all be worshipped, for they shall cluster to exalt me. I am the visible object of worship; the others are secret; for the Beast & his Bride are they: and for the winners of the Ordeal x. What is this? Thou shalt know.
For perfume mix meal & honey & thick leavings of red wine and afterward soften & smooth down with rich fresh blood.
The best blood is of the moon, monthly: then the fresh blood of a child, or dropping from the host of heaven: then of enemies; then of the priest or of the worshippers: last of some beast, no matter what.
This burn: of this make cakes & eat unto me. This hath also another use; let it be laid before me, and kept thick with perfumes of your orison: it shall become full of beetles as it were and creeping things sacred unto me.
These slay, naming your enemies; & they shall fall before you.
Also these shall breed lust & power of lust in you at the eating thereof.
Also ye shall be strong in war.
Moreover, be they long kept, it is better; for they swell with my force. All before me.
My altar is of open brass work: burn thereon in silver or gold!
There cometh a rich man from the West who shall pour his gold upon thee.
From gold forge steel!
Be ready to fly or to smite!
But your holy place shall be untouched throughout the centuries: though with fire and sword it be burnt down & shattered, yet an invisible house there standeth, and shall stand until the fall of the Great Equinox; Another prophet shall arise, and bring fresh fever from the skies; another woman shall awake the lust & worship of the Snake; another soul of God and beast shall mingle in the globèd priest; another sacrifice shall stain the tomb; another king shall reign; and blessing no longer be poured To the Hawk-headed mystical Lord!
Fuck yeah you tell them! Shit, they will be saying Wales is illegally occupied next
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Tribe of the RED DRAGON.
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Piwi you sack of shit....
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Those israelis you and ENT wank over.... they fucking hate you. You are dumb cattle to them. They utterly detest you, even more than most other people do. Why you both insist on fighting their satanic wars for them I have no idea.
You must basically be a couple of dickheads. You keep banging on about mohamad the pedo, but there are no Pedo verses in the Koran.
however... in the Talmud, you can VIOLATE a 3 year old girl as long as she is not Jewish. Yes - that is pedo child rape dictated in the israelite book of doctrines,.
Oh no? Aisha, Mohammed's child bride of 6 yrs of age said the opposite, that she and Muhammad consummated their marriage when she was 9 yrs old,
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Number 4915, also Number 4916 and Number 4917 Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151
Narrated 'Aisha:I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.
(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty(Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
(Sahih al-Bukhaari, 4840; Muslim, 1422)
...he married her when she was six years old, he consummated the marriage with her when she was nine and she stayed with him for nine years.
There's lots of little snippets in the quran about what Mohammed got up to with Aisha, like wanking her when she was having a period, or sucking her tongue during Ramadan.....:)
Waiting times before sex with a pre-pubescent girl;
Quran Surah 065.004
YUSUFALI: Such .... for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.
PICKTHAL: And......along with those who have it not. And for those with child, their period shall be till they bring forth their burden. And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah, He maketh his course easy for him.
SHAKIR: And.... of [B]those too who have not had their courses;[/B] and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.
Oh dear, ENT is back on his favourite subject...
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Some bloke allegedly had it up a nine year old girl back in 1422 (or thereabouts) back when paedophilia was not even recognised. Doubt he would have kept up with the Popes back in those days.
So therefore in the 21st century, Israel has the right to illegally occupy the neighbouring state of Palestine, brutalise and dispossess the inhabitants, and even deny them freedom of movement.
Tells you all you need to know about the level of intellect we are dealing with here. :rolleyes:
Yeah, and if pigs could fly we'd all be covered in shit. I mean thats's right innit? Innit Ent, innit 'arry? Innit, I mean gorblimey..
There have been Jews in Jerusalem continuously for more than 2,500 years.
Yes, I believe the Canaanite's who founded Jerusalem welcomed them peacefully. Of course, there have been many, many more Palestinians living in Jerusalem during the aforementioned period.
Heres another one for you to ignore:) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...rly_Israelites
Interesting : So, you believe that its perfectly acceptable for outside people who come and live in someone elses land, i.e. Palestinians going to live on traditional Jewish land .
I always though that that was the basis for your argument as to why Jews shouldnt live on so called Arab land
The Hebrews immigrated from what is now Northern Iraq (Kurdistan). The Canaanites way predate them- Jerusalem was quite an advanced city by the standards of it's time, with it's own water reticulation system, long before the first Hebrew set eyes on the place. Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites, among other tribes (including Hebrew).
So who are you calling the 'outside people'?
Show me the verse again that tells the believers to be pedos like it does in the Talmud.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
Perhaps you need a Welsh Language Talmud, taffy? Surely you have one, being an Self Hating Israelite Taffy
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Originally Posted by Fluke
Ohh fooking hell another one spreading the lie.
Why do you idiots conflate religion with nationality and race?
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Psue...there are no Americans...just citizens of America , correct ?
All the fookers came from every other "nationality" around the globe...including those "Native Americans" that may have walked across a land bridge from what is now eastern Russia to Aleutian Alaska.
Obviously there were no "citizens" except citizens from "mother lands" who colonized the Americas and later became citizens of their independent nations waiting another 200 years before granting "citizenship" to all inhabitants.
I believe it will only get worse in Israel towards those intent on breaching the "security barriers."
The Arab world passed 30 years of potential peace with Israel...that may have been the only chance they had. Sad indeed.
Canaan included what today are Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, northwestern Jordan, and some western areas of Syria. According to archaeologist Jonathan N. Tubb, "Ammonites, Moabites, Israelites and Phoenicians undoubtedly achieved their own cultural identities, and yet ethnically they were all Canaanites", "the same people who settled in farming villages in the region in the 8th millennium BC."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan#Later_sources
Palestinians, Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians, Israelites- all are at least partially descended from Canaanites.
Aramaic survived to become the dominant language of the middle east during the time of jesus. There are even more aramaic words in the new testament than hebrew. Many palestinian customs and costumes can be traced to the Canaanites genetic sampling has shown that most of the population of palestine and israel are of western semitic origin ( J1) which is shared with jews.
in a way , the Canaanites adopted the dominant hebrew form of the culture, then switched to Aramaic during greco roman times and then Arabic after the Arab conquest.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...0145013AACuHXy
Oh yeh, but there's no such thing as a Palestinian right? Scoff. Closer to the truth to say there is no such thing as an Israeli- because the diaspora Jews interbred with the various dominant cultures they migrated to or the tribes they converted (eg Kazars), while the Jews that remained in Palestine interbred with the other natives, apart from a tiny rump that remained distinctly Hebrew.