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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    ...and the destruction of Mosques.

    Well, the Iraq invasion was, in a way, the revenge of the US and its allies for 9/11.
    That's not the official policy, but if you listen to comments of US citizens and Brits, for example, retribution does play a part.

    If you can't get those responsible directly, go for those you think are associated with them.

    Well, if that would have been the case why did the US not bomb Iran after the Hostages crisis. They sure would have had a lot of support.

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    [quote=machangezi;354625]
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Let's say the Vatican was blown up and the Pope was killed by radical muslims. How will the world (christians) react?
    You don't know?? We all saw America bombing Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 where the Terrorists attacked the twin towers and Pentagon. That was the reaction of the Christians, wasn't it??
    The attack was master minded in Afghanistan, so the revenge was justified.
    Why did the US invade Iraq I realy dont know. I could imagine that the jews were behind it to destabilize the region.

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Now let's say a radical christian blows up Mecca. How will muslims react arround the world.
    They will burn some effigies(sp?) burn some shops and stuff like that..... then they will all calm down after some time just the way they forgot Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Either your not a real muslim or you are realy downplaying this scenario.
    What I meant was Mecca the holy site Masjid al-Haram.

    What's the point of these questions??
    Aggression / Revenge
    Last edited by HermantheGerman; 29-07-2007 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Pakistan has a severe problem, should the ragheads take over the region, there will be BIG trouble. (aahemm don't forget to blame Israel for all this)
    Why are the YIDS to be blamed?? I didn't say anything about Israel in this thread as far as I can remember.
    Are you sure ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Well, if that would have been the case why did the US not bomb Iran after the Hostages crisis. They sure would have had a lot of support.
    Look who was in the White House then?
    Worst President in modern history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Well, the Iraq invasion was, in a way, the revenge of the US and its allies for 9/11.
    That's not the official policy, but if you listen to comments of US citizens and Brits, for example, retribution does play a part.

    If you can't get those responsible directly, go for those you think are associated with them.
    The US was fully aware Iraq was not associated with 911 before the invasion.
    The innuendo's and outright lies in the media was just spin, for the benefit of a gullible public looking for blame figures after the atrocity. It was quite convenient and easy to demonise Saddams Iraq. The neo-con's/ NPAC had been wanting to invade Iraq anyway, since at least 1999. It's in their writings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buad hai View Post
    Can someone tell me what I should have done with my life, short of renouncing my US citizenship, to avoid being a legitimate target of terrorists?
    Maybe you should've stayed in the US, ran for political office, constantly reaffirmed the fact that peace is always the best answer and tried to quell the voice of the right as much as possible. Maybe then there would not have been the Reagan Bush regime that we have had to endure for 27 years now. “Fascism Sucks” should be are rallying cry. Enough of the hate republicans spew.

    “Diary of an Economic Hit man “explains why people around the world despise the US. 40 plus years in the making or should I say in the destruction of.

    Thank you right wingers
    Thank you right wingers

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi
    They might, if they really care about their citizens, stop poking their fucking nose in other's business if their civilians are killed in the same way they kill civilians of other countries. No?
    Is there some place I can sign out from this? All I really want is fresh sheets, a warm shower and a clean place to shit.
    There’s no way out. Once your in your in for good.

    Great song from the 70's. David Gilmore

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    There is no US aggression, only a response to terorists type activities.
    In Iraq? Guatemala with Arbenz? Cambodia? Panama? Iran in 1953? Hawaii in the late 1800s? Vietnam? Argentina with Allende?

    The US is the same today as it was 150 years ago.
    There isn't one country in the world that can say that they have always been non aggressive at least not in regards to the players of the world. I suppose if your country is isolated enough and supplies for all the needs of the people (i.e.-no worldly interaction) then maybe. But North Korea stands as a supreme failure. For some reason human nature seems to dictate “If I can push then why don’t I try and shove next”.
    Last edited by ChiangMai noon; 30-07-2007 at 06:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    WHAT??
    Do you mean what will I do if Pakland is taken over by ragheads??
    Well, the beach in Goa is always nice this time of year...
    Sorry I don't understand Yiddish language Booners.

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    [quote=HermantheGerman;354700]
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Let's say the Vatican was blown up and the Pope was killed by radical muslims. How will the world (christians) react?
    You don't know?? We all saw America bombing Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 where the Terrorists attacked the twin towers and Pentagon. That was the reaction of the Christians, wasn't it??
    The attack was master minded in Afghanistan, so the revenge was justified.
    Why did the US invade Iraq I realy dont know. I could imagine that the jews were behind it to destabilize the region.

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
    Now let's say a radical christian blows up Mecca. How will muslims react arround the world.
    They will burn some effigies(sp?) burn some shops and stuff like that..... then they will all calm down after some time just the way they forgot Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Either your not a real muslim or you are realy downplaying this scenario.
    What I meant was Mecca the holy site Masjid al-Haram.

    What's the point of these questions??
    Aggression / Revenge
    WHATEVER HERMAN. I WILL ONLY REPLY TO YOU IF YOU EXPLAIN YOUR POINT PROPERLY. I AIN'T PICKING ON YOU BUT HONESTLY I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

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    (I think) he says it is fine to kill Afghani civilians in retribution for 9/11, thus agreeing with you that revenge on innocent civilians is justified.

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    Hmmm ..... so it puts all the beheadings of innocent civilians in perspective, right Herman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    WHAT??
    Do you mean what will I do if Pakland is taken over by ragheads??
    Well, the beach in Goa is always nice this time of year...
    Sorry I don't understand Yiddish language Booners.
    Sorry...thought you might have recognized that Goa (on India's southern coast) has some nice beaches is all and you might like it there?

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    It's a party spot for 'world-travellers' who enjoy "Goa Trance" music and for young ex-military Israelis on acid, you'd fit right in, Macha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Today I went to a Paki restaurant where I had a lil chit chat with other Pakis who were having lunch there. They are all well educated and up to the western standards that qualify them as human beings! While having lunch someone talked about the statement that a white house spokesman gave a day ago. According to the white house spokesman "US is planning of direct action in tribal areas of Pakistan (NWFP).

    I felt good to see them denouncing the fuckwit Mullahs who time and again encourage the general masses to kill the Westerners. One of them said something that really got me thinking. He asked "what would you guys do if one of the American missiles miss the target and land in your house, as it usually does?" For a while there was a pin drop silence but then the silence broke when one of them said "if any of my family members get hurt (forget being killed by those so called precision bombs), all Americans (soldiers and civilians) anywhere on earth are targets.

    Let's put yourself in his shoes, walk a mile and then tell us what would you do in such situation? Should they be targeted (soldiers and civilians)? Who should be held responsible for deaths of Paki civilians, who have got nothing to do with al qaieda, and should Pakis do the same - target American civilians?

    Let's see what you lot have got to say on this issue?
    War is evil. Avoid it at all costs because innocent people will die.

    What's WAR good for......

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    Sometimes for preserving freedom? (eg. WW II)

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    Some of these lads have no sense of history....good example Sir Burr. We'd all be speaking German if we'd listening to Chamberlain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    Some of these lads have no sense of history...
    Indeed , you'd be speaking Russian now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    Today I went to a Paki restaurant where I had a lil chit chat with other Pakis who were having lunch there. They are all well educated and up to the western standards that qualify them as human beings! While having lunch someone talked about the statement that a white house spokesman gave a day ago. According to the white house spokesman "US is planning of direct action in tribal areas of Pakistan (NWFP).

    I felt good to see them denouncing the fuckwit Mullahs who time and again encourage the general masses to kill the Westerners. One of them said something that really got me thinking. He asked "what would you guys do if one of the American missiles miss the target and land in your house, as it usually does?" For a while there was a pin drop silence but then the silence broke when one of them said "if any of my family members get hurt (forget being killed by those so called precision bombs), all Americans (soldiers and civilians) anywhere on earth are targets.

    Let's put yourself in his shoes, walk a mile and then tell us what would you do in such situation? Should they be targeted (soldiers and civilians)? Who should be held responsible for deaths of Paki civilians, who have got nothing to do with al qaieda, and should Pakis do the same - target American civilians?

    Let's see what you lot have got to say on this issue?
    If this is acceptable behavior, why don’t the Germans and Japanese kill every American (and Brit for that matter) they see to this day?
    It seems to me, this middle east revenge culture as become acceptable behavior and is used as an excuse by the fanatic muslim apologists.
    TH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome
    this middle east revenge culture as become acceptable behavior
    If revenge is not acceptable behavior then what do you suggest?

    Don't confuse WWII with the Middle east conflict.

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    revenge is perfectly understandable. too many rats in the same cage. its when the rats start to drag god into it that i get fucking mixed up.

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