Thread: Which is freedom

I just talked to my Thai girlfriend on webcam and during the chat there were three noisy interruptions at her end. It was people driving past her house with loud hailiers promoting the wares they have for sale in their pickup.

I asked her if she minds it and she said she doesn't like it but she is used to it. In Thailand people are free to make as much noise as they want to sell something. Potential customers are given no choice about hearing it. In London this isn't allowed. Such things like party political loud hailers were outlawed and people are free to enjoy peace and quiet. Which is freedom?

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Once an inhailier
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Originally Posted by Steam

I just talked to my Thai girlfriend on webcam and during the chat there were three noisy interruptions at her end. It was people driving past her house with loud hailiers promoting the wares they have for sale in their pickup.

I asked her if she minds it and she said she doesn't like it but she is used to it. In Thailand people are free to make as much noise as they want to sell something. Potential customers are given no choice about hearing it. In London this isn't allowed. Such things like party political loud hailers were outlawed and people are free to enjoy peace and quiet. Which is freedom?

You are free not to buy the products being advertised and you are free not to get upset about the advertising.

Sometimes those noisy vehicles driving past are providing a public service (for example informing residents that the mains water or electricity will be off for some time today).

There's also the noisy and intrusive loudspeaker on a pole informing residents of local goings on (by the poo yai baan I expect). I've heard this before 7am when I've been in bed sleeping. A bit annoying to me but not to Thais apparently.

It's all part and parcel of Thai society. I've never heard a Thai complain about it.

It's nothing to do with freedom as far as I can see.

Freedom's just another word for nothing else to lose....

If we were to truly examine comparative everyday real independence, freedoms, and self-sufficiency between Thailand and England [and similar civilisations], the Western nation would be in the rear considerably.

I find it Tannoying but cheaper than an alrm wife
I think our Poo Yai Ban is quite jolly plays happy music for those whose day is standing in snke infested dross planting seeds unlike the coalface of web warriors

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Freedom's just another word for nothing else to lose....
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Jeff,
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
If you want to plagiarise lyrics at least quote them correctly

Wouldn't freedom be, you are allowed to drive around and sell your goods, making a living.
Sure in most western nations, taxes, permits, licences would be needed, or you would be charged.

Freedom in the Thai sense is that. Freedom in the London sense is protecting people from those making a living in a relatively intrusive or selfish manner.

Originally Posted by Steam

Freedom in the Thai sense is that. Freedom in the London sense is protecting people from those making a living in a relatively intrusive or selfish manner.

In Thailand you're free to do what you want.

In London you're free to do what you want so long as it doesn't piss others off.

Both places rules have pros and cons.

Folks driving by with there recorded messages blasting out have never bothered me much at all, the cnut next door blasting his shite music every fuking morning at 3am at insane decibels bothered me tremendously, thankfully he got locked up for dealing yabba.

Originally Posted by Stinky

Folks driving by with there recorded messages blasting out have never bothered me much at all, the cnut next door blasting his shite music every fuking morning at insane decibels at three in the morning bothered me tremendously, thankfully he got locked up for dealing yabba.

..it all works out for the best in the end.

^ indeed it did, I couldn't understand why the Thais put up with it for so long.

Originally Posted by Steam

Freedom in the Thai sense is that. Freedom in the London sense is protecting people from those making a living in a relatively intrusive or selfish manner.

So you pay them welfare to stay home, then complain about them living on your taxes.

Originally Posted by Steam

I just talked to my Thai girlfriend on webcam and during the chat there were three noisy interruptions at her end. It was people driving past her house with loud hailiers promoting the wares they have for sale in their pickup.

I asked her if she minds it and she said she doesn't like it but she is used to it. In Thailand people are free to make as much noise as they want to sell something. Potential customers are given no choice about hearing it. In London this isn't allowed. Such things like party political loud hailers were outlawed and people are free to enjoy peace and quiet. Which is freedom?

It's a thin line, but on that issue London is. This is a classic case of your freedom ends where mine begins, or you can be free so long as you do not harm or excessively annoy others.

I live in a nice neighborhood except for one band of squatting monkeys living in a tin shack that run a business making gates and window bars. They're sawing and hammering at 0400 most every morning. They also have a pack of semi-stray unfed mangy and vicious dogs that roam the neighborhood. Personally I'd like them see them all culled (monkeys and dogs).

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Wouldn't freedom be, you are allowed to drive around and sell your goods, making a living.
Sure in most western nations, taxes, permits, licences would be needed, or you would be charged.

You do realise that in many instances permits and licenses etc.. are also required?!