Thread: New crisis in Europes

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

And it is EU is not Europe

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

there are good countries north and west

Again, which part did you not understand?

Central europeans are weak.

Austria Switzerland Lichtenstein

Yu ar korekt Yes Week Yes

Originally Posted by panama hat

Austria Switzerland Lichtenstein

Yu ar korekt Yes Week Yes

Switzerland

Correct there, one out of three is better you achieved before. And they are not in EU or in central europe btw

As for Austria, is building hard borders against immigrants, like Hungary did earlier to great hate of euros. Thanks Merkel, invite all ISIS terrorists to europe because you won't be in power when shit hits the fan.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Central europeans are weak.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Austria Switzerland Lichtenstein

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Again, which part did you not understand?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Central europeans .

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Switzerland

Correct there, one out of three is better you achieved before. And they are not in EU or in central europe btw

EU? You didn't mention EU. You stated quite clearly Central Europe.

Switzerland sits squarely in Central Europe.



You . . . are an idiot

He's a troll.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

As for Austria, is building hard borders against immigrants, like Hungary did earlier to great hate of euros. Thanks Merkel, invite all ISIS terrorists to europe because you won't be in power when shit hits the fan.

That is both bigoted and uninformed, the people so far 'invited' into Germany are REFUGEES!

Crisis!

Hardly. An irritant at best. Soon to be relegated to the status of a minor historical footnote.

European crises of note were the black death, the inquisition, 100 year war, Napoleonic war, ww1 and ww2 to name but a few.

It's a crisis only because the media deems it so. Be afraid. The end is nigh.

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Are the migrants vetted for their political leanings before they are allowed to set off on their journey?

Originally Posted by Neverna

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Are the migrants vetted for their political leanings before they are allowed to set off on their journey?

At least people like barbara are falling for it . . . add another moron to the republican voter registration

Poland to stop accepting refugees after Paris attacks

Poland's incoming government has announced it will no longer take in refugees due to the recent Paris attacks, calling for 'security guarantees.' Germany has warned against hastily linking Paris and the refugee crisis.

Poland will no longer accept relocated refugees based on an EU distribution program, Poland's incoming conservative, Euroskeptic government announced on Saturday. Due to Friday's deadly terrorist attacks in Paris, Poland's new government is now demanding security guarantees before taking in further refugees.
"The attacks mean the necessity of an even deeper revision of the European policy towards the migrant crisis," said Konrad Szymanski, Poland's rising European affairs minister, during a briefing on Saturday. "We'll accept (refugees only) if we have security guarantees. This is a key condition, and today a question mark has been put next to it all around Europe," added the incoming minister, without specifying what he meant by security guarantees.
Szymanski's comments on the right-wing nationalist website wpolityce.pl made clear that Poland's new government will not comply with the EU refugee relocation program.
Border controls
"The decisions by the EU Council that were criticized by us over the resettlement of refugees and migrants in all EU states are of a binding nature. However in the face of the tragic events in Paris, we see no political possibility of implementing them," he wrote on the site. "Poland must retain complete control of its borders, as well as its asylum and migration policy," Szymanski insisted on the site.
Witold Waszczykowski, Poland's rising foreign minister, voiced his concerns as well, saying Europe needed to "approach in a different fashion the Muslim community living in Europe which hates this continent and wishes to destroy it."

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Dear God, are you Krauts still whinging that it wasn't your fault?

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Just will never learn will you ?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Neverna

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Are the migrants vetted for their political leanings before they are allowed to set off on their journey?

At least people like barbara are falling for it . . . add another moron to the republican voter registration

Nope.

I'm not a Republican in the US, and as far as I know, Europe doesn't have a party called "Republican."

As for the US, many immigrants will vote left

Read the quoted posts . . . and see why you are the village idiot

Uuups, someone is finally speaking up against this refugee mess. No its not somekind of lePen or radical. Its the president of the european council. Merkel and her goodwill idiots days are counted.




Detain refugees arriving in Europe for 18 months, says Tusk

European council president says tougher screening measures needed to counter security risks and describes Angela Merkel’s open-door policy as ‘dangerous’



Refugees arriving in Europe should be detained for up to 18 months in holding centres across the EU while they are screened for security and terrorism risks, the president of the European council has said.
Donald Tusk also put himself strongly at odds with Europe’s most powerful politician, Angela Merkel, by declaring that there was no majority among European governments for a binding quotas system to share refugees between them. The mandatory refugee-sharing regime is the German chancellor’s chief policy for dealing with the migration crisis, not least since about 1 million are expected to enter Germany this year.
In a lengthy interview with the Guardian and five other European newspapers, Tusk, the former Polish prime minister, described Merkel’s open-door policy on refugees as “dangerous” and derided data claiming that Syrian-war refugees made up a majority of those trying to get to Europe. Public confidence in governments’ ability to tackle the immigration crisis would only be restored by a stringent new system of controls on the EU’s external borders, he said.
Tusk’s remarks contradicted Berlin’s stance and also the asylum policies being drafted across the street from his Brussel’s office in the European commission.
In a reference to Merkel’s comment on the migration crisis, Tusk said “some” European leaders “said that this wave of migrants is too big to stop. I’m absolutely sure that we have to say that this wave of migrants is too big not to stop them. But this change of approach must be a common effort. It’s not about one leader.
“I think that what we can expect from our leaders today is to change this mindset, this opinion, [which is] for me one of the most dangerous in this time.”
In a warning to the rest of Europe, Merkel recently told the Bundestag that the survival of the EU’s free-travel Schengen area hinged on whether national governments could agree on a permanent new regime of sharing refugees. In September she pressed for a majority vote at an EU summit making the sharing of 160,000 refugees obligatory despite strong resistance from eastern Europe.
Berlin and the commission are now pushing for a more ambitious permanent scheme directly resettling refugees across the EU from Turkey and the Middle East.
Tusk brusquely dismissed this. “There is no majority in Europe to win when it comes to resettlement or the next phase of [refugee] relocation. And not because of the eastern and central parts of Europe only. But many more countries.
“In the mid-term and long-term perspective, we can’t use qualified majority voting as something like political coercion … [There are] more countries sceptical towards a permanent and obligatory mechanism. And I can understand why.
“All member states will be ready to show more solidarity if they feel that Europe as a whole is ready to protect external borders more effectively. I mean that they are able to reduce this number of refugees, because that is the biggest fear today in Europe.
“Debate today is not among politicians or intellectuals or commentators. For the first time in many, many years, I have noticed the debate is really public because the fear and uncertainty is so genuine. You can feel this fear, these feelings on the street. We are talking about our capacities in Europe. No one is ready today to receive these kind of numbers, including Germany.”
His remarks highlighted the ever-deepening rift within the EU over how to deal with the refugee crisis.
Tusk’s opposition to Berlin also puts Merkel in a tight spot as she appears increasingly isolated both at home and in Europe over migration policy. She may be abandoning hopes of securing sufficient support for a new EU-wide system. But defeat for Merkel would come at a price, with bitterness growing in Germany at the lack of solidarity being shown by the country’s EU partners in the crisis. Similar rancour is evident in Sweden, which proportionately takes in more refugees than anywhere else in the EU.
“It’s not only about reducing the flow of migrants,” said Tusk. “Please don’t downplay the role of security. If you want to screen migrants and refugees, you need more time than only one minute to fingerprint. In international law and also in European law we have this rule of 18 months as the time for screening we need. You can and you should retain migrants as long as screening is ready [until screening is completed].
“It’s not only an obligation for frontline countries. We can do it in many parts of Europe. But we need to say very openly that we will do it. Also for security reasons, but not only for this. We have to. This is why fear is so tangible and, in fact, justified. It is the first time in our history that we have to fight this kind of amount and this kind of problem.
“This control on our external borders, and procedures inside the frontline countries, but also in some other countries, is something that will reduce this readiness to go to Europe. Today access to Europe is, simply speaking, too easy.”
Tusk suggested that it was a myth that the majority of refugees reaching Europe were Syrians in flight from war and said that more than two-thirds were irregular migrants who should be turned back.
According to the International Organisation for Migration, nearly two-thirds or 64% of people crossing from Turkey into the EU via the Greek islands by October this year were Syrians – 388,000 of a total of 608,000. A quarter of those making the crossing were children, the IOM said this week. Of 12 deaths in the past week, nine were children and 90 died in October alone. Half of the children arriving in Europe this year were from Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, the IOM said.
Tusk contested this. “I’m talking about migrants. Sorry, but it is something like a justification that we have refugees [who are] only Syrian and that’s why we have to be as open as today. It’s not true.
“Syrians are only the 28-30% of the influx. Seventy per cent of them are [irregular] migrants. This is why we need more effective controls. It’s obvious.”

The break up of Europe continues !

Front National: Marine Le Pen and Marion Maréchal-Le Pen expect electoral breakthrough for France’s far-right

After the Paris atrocities, the ‘anti-Muslim’ far right is forecast to take over swathes of France. What can stop it?
Friday 4 December 2015
A 26-year-old woman who says that Muslims cannot be French may be about to be elected president of a large region sprawling from Marseille to Nice and the Italian border.
A 47-year-old woman – aunt of the first, and the leader of Europe’s most powerful far-right party – is likely to be the next president of another big chunk of France, starting a few miles from Kent and stretching almost to the northern suburbs of Paris.

Front National: Marine Le Pen and Marion Maréchal-Le Pen expect electoral breakthrough for France?s far-right | Europe | News | The Independent

France's far-right National Front on course for massive gains in regional elections after seizing on fears over the refugee crisis and Paris terror attacks

• National Front, an anti immigration and anti EU party, led by Marine Le Pen
• Expected to win at least one French region in the elections held on Sunday
• Any party that attracts 10 per cent of votes moves on to 'run off' elections
• National Front could seize north, south east regions in this second round
• Party has taken advantage of Paris terror attacks, Europe's migrant crisis

Let's see what the New Year brings. Does Uncle Sam have to come to Europes rescue again ?



Top U.S. conflict prevention priorities in 2016 include

Among the new contingencies introduced in this year's survey are political instability in European Union (EU) countries caused by the influx of refugees and migrants.

Center for Preventive Action: Preventive Priorities Survey: 2016 - Council on Foreign Relations

Sweden masked gang 'targeted migrants' in Stockholm



Up to 100 masked men, dressed in black, gathered in central Stockholm to attack people from immigrant backgrounds, reports say.
Swedish police say the large gang distributed leaflets inciting people to assault refugees.
Witnesses said the men physically attacked people they believed were foreigners. However, police have not confirmed these reports.
It comes amid heightened tension in Sweden over the migrant crisis.
Some 163,000 migrants applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015, the highest per capita number in Europe.
According to Aftonbladet newspaper, the men in Stockholm were distributing leaflets on Friday evening with the slogan "It's enough now!",
The material threatened to give "the North African street children who are roaming around" the "punishment they deserve."
The newspaper published a video showing the gang clashing with police at Stockholm's central station.
Knuckledusters

Stockholm police said in a statement (in Swedish) that the group was handing out leaflets with the intention to incite people to carry out crimes.
One man was arrested after punching an officer in the face. Several others were detained on public order offences and another was found with brass knuckledusters, police said. All had been released by the following morning.
Spokeswoman Towe Haegg told Swedish radio police had not received any reports of violence against people from migrant backgrounds.
However, Aftonbladet interviewed one 16-year-old who said he had been hit in the face near Stockholm's central station. The newspaper also quoted another witness who said he had seen men beating up people who appeared to have a foreign background in the middle of the city's Sergelstorg square.
The men were wearing arm bands in various and have been reportedly linked to football hooligan gangs.
There were scuffles on Saturday between pro- and anti-migrant demonstrators, during which witnesses say foreigners were assaulted.
Tensions have increased after a 22-year-old employee was stabbed to death at a centre for young asylum seekers earlier this week. A 15-year-old asylum seeker was arrested in Molndal, near Gothenburg, over the murder.
Along with Germany, Sweden is a prime destination for refugees and other migrants entering the EU illegally.
More than one million refugees and migrants travelled to Europe last year, most fleeing conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
The numbers arriving in Sweden have fallen significantly it imposed tighter border controls this year.
On Thursday, Interior Minister Anders Ygeman said the country would prepare to deport up to 80,000 migrants whose asylum applications were rejected.

Sweden masked gang 'targeted migrants' in Stockholm - BBC News