Thread: New crisis in Europes

Not hearing much from the PC brigade lately where have they gone.?

Have they saw the light.?

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Refugees 80% men...ticking time bomb.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

More like 90%

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Where did you get that figure from?

Out of their arses

Evidently so.

Ninety-eight percent of the stats in this thread are made up.

Google is your friend guys,many references to the 80% being male.

Time to go | The Economist

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Google is your friend guys,many references to the 80% being male.

Time to go | The Economist

"UNHCR statistics say 80% of migrants arriving in Europe are male. One problem for the Syrians is a growing number of other nationalities who are pretending to be Syrian, sometimes armed with fake passports, and sometimes with none, to claim asylum"

Goodo, so why did you say 90% then?

Do you need new contact lenses.?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Google is your friend guys,many references to the 80% being male.

Time to go | The Economist

"UNHCR statistics say 80% of migrants arriving in Europe are male. One problem for the Syrians is a growing number of other nationalities who are pretending to be Syrian, sometimes armed with fake passports, and sometimes with none, to claim asylum"

Goodo, so why did you say 90% then?

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Do you need new contact lenses.?

Maybe so... I mistook ES's post for yours, my bad.

This about turn by by Euro leaders just shows there ignorance of what is happening.

EU CHIEF: MIGRANT FLOOD IS JUST THE BEGINNING, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE DOORS AND WINDOWS

Europe must close her doors and windows, the head of the European Council has said. In remarks following a meeting of the heads of state on Wednesday night, he warned that the migrant flood witnessed so far was only the beginning; the greatest tide of people is yet to come, necessitating renewed focus on securing Europe’s external borders.

As the migrant flood continues to rock the very foundations of the European Union, the heads of state and government of the Member States gathered at an informal crisis meeting in Brussels to discuss what can, and must, be done.

“Tonight our discussion was based on facts, not emotions,” Donald Tusk, the President of the European Council and former Prime Minister of Poland told reporters following the meeting.

“There are eight million displaced people in Syria, while about four million have fled to Syria’s neighbours. We should be talking about millions of potential refugees trying to reach Europe from Syria alone. Not to mention Iraq, Afghanistan, Eritrea and other places.” He said.

So far, only about two per cent of Syria’s refugees have made it to Europe. That figure is likely to rise significantly following Germany’s recent announcement that all Syrians who make it to her borders will be allowed to stay.

Tusk recounted: “Recently I visited refugee camps in Turkey and Jordan and I heard only one message: we are determined to get to Europe. It is clear that the greatest tide of refugees and migrants is yet to come.

“Therefore we need to correct the policy of open doors and windows. Now the focus should be on the proper protection of our external borders and on external assistance to refugees and the countries in our neighbourhood.”

Despite the rhetoric, however, the heads of state agreed to little, other than to throw more taxpayer money at the situation.

Arriving at the summit, Britain’s Prime Minister David Cameron told his colleagues: “We must make sure that people in refugee camps are properly fed, and looked after, not least to help them but also to stop people wanting to make or thinking of making this very, very difficult and very dangerous journey to Europe.”

To that end, the leaders agreed to splurge another €1 billon (£740 million) on aid programs, distributed via the UN’s Human Rights Council and the World Food Programme, and to increase aid to Jordan, Lebanon and Turkey where the majority of the refugees are currently living.

That spending will see Britain giving an extra £110 million, bringing the total to date up to £1.1 billion, the second highest sum donated by any country, after America.

“Leaders also agreed that the current chaos at our external borders must end,” Mr Tusk said. But despite daily scenes of violence and chaos across the continent as borders slam shut, and contrary to Mr Tusk’s hard-line rhetoric, the leaders were more timid on this front, agreeing only to set up “hotspots”, or specialist reception centres in Italy and Greece by the end of November – more than two months hence.

The hotspots would be used to identify, register and fingerprint migrants, allowing the migrant to either be relocated or returned.

However, the journalist Douglas Murray earlier this year travelled to Lampedusa, where illegal boats from Libya often unload their cargo of trafficked migrants. He reports:

“I asked every aid worker I could find if they knew of anybody being sent back home after arriving in European waters. Nobody could think of such a case. The truth is that once someone is here they stay because Europe cannot work out who is who (most people having deliberately come without papers) and even if they are clearly economic migrants they are never sent home. Europe had no workable system to do this when the movement was at a low-point. Now that it is at a historic high Europe has less than no system.”

As many as 350,000 migrants have registered for asylum in Europe since January 2015, according to the International Organisation for Migration. Germany is seeing an influx of migrants at the rate of 100 per hour, according to the Telegraph.

The influx is already testing relations between European leaders to breaking point. On Tuesday night Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban accused the German Chancellor Angela Merkel of “moral imperialism” after a mandatory 120,000 migrant quota scheme was forced through against the wishes of governments and their people, using qualified majority voting.

A Hungarian official has ridiculed the decision, saying that the plans would never work. “’Mohammed, here is your flight to Stuttgart. Ahmed, here is your flight to Bucharest.’ Will Ahmed be happy? Two hours later he will be on the run to Germany,” he said.

“It has been designed in buildings that have never seen what is going on in the ground. The house is burning and we plan to submit legislation in three months’ time.”

Hungary’s Foreign Minister Péter Szijjártó has called the quota scheme a “waste of time.” He has proposed three policies designed to tackle the problem: “We must establish a joint EU force that is capable of protecting Greece’s borders, EU funding must be provided to existing refugee camps, and transit countries must be given financial assistance,” he said, adding: “One of the many reasons the compulsory quota system is unsatisfactory is that many more people have entered the European Union since the original debate on the distribution of 120,000 immigrants.”

As previously posted get an armada of ships on the coastline of Libya etc,and get the ferking Arab countries to keep them, and start sorting out the Muslim internal religious problems.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Ninety-eight percent of posts in this forum are made up.

Fixed it for you, for free.

God I hope it's true, I can't believe people really think what they post is true.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

start sorting out the Muslim internal religious problems.

The locals and the crusader coalition have been succeeding for years, don't you know?

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Not hearing much from the PC brigade lately where have they gone.?

What does this over-used and ill-used label of 'pc' have to do with anything? I'd appreciate it if you could explain to me how someone whose opinion differs from yours is somehow 'pc'.

Thanks

Was I referring to you.?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Not hearing much from the PC brigade lately where have they gone.?

What does this over-used and ill-used label of 'pc' have to do with anything? I'd appreciate it if you could explain to me how someone whose opinion differs from yours is somehow 'pc'.
Thanks

It's the kind of remark one school girl might make to another. And then giggle, and they would all have a cute remark and a smug, clubby grin.

I really don't think it has any meaning outside of the conventional ones dealing with race or gender or sexual preference, at least as they are used in public in order to avoid social friction, otherwise known as violence.
Lately the whole thing of being PC has taken on political connotations, thanks mostly to Donald Trump, though he's not the first. It's what they say lately instead of Benghazi; that has no meaning either.

MrG you keeping coming on threads and not making any contributions to the threads the dog house has some good threads on talking shit.

Perhaps your posts are best there.

The PC crowd hounded Piwanoi myself also tok the piss out of his stance of what would happen.

Sent him a email the other day saying you should be jumping all around here now, his response being he couldn't be bothered,as they don't know shit.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

MrG you keeping coming on threads and not making any contributions to the threads

Bit subjective innit.

Is his post any more or less of a contribution than the one of yours that led to it.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

The PC crowd hounded Piwanoi myself also tok the piss out of his stance of what would happen.

Sent him a email the other day saying you should be jumping all around here now, his response being he couldn't be bothered,as they don't know shit

Huh, and piwanoi several times likened himself to a rough 'n tumble, take-no-prisoners-give-as-good-as-he-got, scrappy street fighter.

Turns out he's a bit of a pussy. Who woulda thunk it.

Funny you turn up Ant.

Is it?

Must be some weird/zany sense of humor peculiar to self-appointed arbiters of relevant/worthwhile contributions to threads then.

Because I don't get it.

Simple question for you Ant what Piwanoi got jailed for, is it haunting Europe now, and it ain't begun yet.

Did Piwanoi say the Muslim world would fuk up Europe.?

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Simple question for you Ant what Piwanoi got jailed for, is it haunting Europe now, and it ain't begun yet.

Did Piwanoi say the Muslim world would fuk up Europe.?

That's not really a simple question though is it. In fact it's barely a question. Regardless...

Firstly peeweeannoy wasn't jailed: he was blocked from Speakers Corner & News because of his propensity to spam threads, any threads regardless of topic, with his Mooslamic Raygun dribble.

Secondly, he may well have said that for all I know but even if he did so what? Stopped clocks, the Muslim world hasn't 'fukked up Europe' (arguably the other way around), and you're lauding him for being a visionary of something that hasn't actually happened yet?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Refugees 80% men...ticking time bomb.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

More like 90%

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Where did you get that figure from?

Out of their arses

What part is coming out of my arse PH ?
The 80 % or the part with the ticking time bomb ?

Maybe THIS TIME you can stay here and discuss it with me.

Ant He stood his ground and and never moved from what he said or what he thought to be true.

I for one owe him an apology.

There are posters here that went vehemently after him,sad but true.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Ant He stood his ground and and never moved from what he said or what he thought to be true.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

The PC crowd hounded Piwanoi myself also tok the piss out of his stance of what would happen.

Sent him a email the other day saying you should be jumping all around here now, his response being he couldn't be bothered,as they don't know shit.

Errr...

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

MrG you keeping coming on threads and not making any contributions

I'd suggest the contrary

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

The PC crowd hounded Piwanoi

Yet again, the 'pc' crowd . . No-one hounde the guy - and if by 'pc' you yet again mean people who disagree and have a different opinion . . .

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Sent him a email the other day saying you should be jumping all around here now, his response being he couldn't be bothered,as they don't know shit.

That's just it, no-one knows anything bar the people who agree with him - sadly he has a very limited source of info and believes this source is the veritable fountain of all knowledge.

The most intriguing thing about the guy is his creation of 'enemies'. If one doesn't come out and completely agree with him - automatically this person becomes an apologist at best, a supporter of the opposite at worst.

How many people did he accuse of being Muslims/radical muslims etc...

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Maybe THIS TIME you can stay here and discuss it with me.

Tried, Herman, a bit disingenuous of you.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Maybe THIS TIME you can stay here and discuss it with me.

Tried, Herman, a bit disingenuous of you.

O.K. PH I'll try again

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Refugees 80% men...ticking time bomb.

Bit like the 80% that you wanted to know about but couldn't find lol

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

MrG you keeping coming on threads and not making any contributions

I'd suggest the contrary

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

The PC crowd hounded Piwanoi

Yet again, the 'pc' crowd . . No-one hounde the guy - and if by 'pc' you yet again mean people who disagree and have a different opinion . . .

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

Sent him a email the other day saying you should be jumping all around here now, his response being he couldn't be bothered,as they don't know shit.

That's just it, no-one knows anything bar the people who agree with him - sadly he has a very limited source of info and believes this source is the veritable fountain of all knowledge.

The most intriguing thing about the guy is his creation of 'enemies'. If one doesn't come out and completely agree with him - automatically this person becomes an apologist at best, a supporter of the opposite at worst.

How many people did he accuse of being Muslims/radical muslims etc...

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Maybe THIS TIME you can stay here and discuss it with me.

Tried, Herman, a bit disingenuous of you.