Thread: PC Madness at Unis: Coddling of the American mind

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Cujo

Doesn't mean they know shit

They think they do though.

That's the problem. That and the establishment indulges them.

Good.



Not good.

Originally Posted by pickel

It's out of hand. University yoga class suspended over 'cultural appropriation' dispute

So, Yoga is not PC.
Time for the adults to step in.

Good contributions by SK and Pickel.

Yoga

Originally Posted by pickel

The email went on to say that because many of those cultures “have experienced oppression, cultural genocide and diasporas due to colonialism and western supremacy... we need to be mindful of this and how we express ourselves while practising yoga.”

Yoga....it's so....repressive.

These 18-12 year olds really have the life experience and knowledge to show the rest of us what is and is not, acceptable.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

These 18-12 year olds

And barbara swings . . . and misses . . . again . . .

Maybe the dollar bills should be overhauled next!

^ I think it will happen. Likely after we are dead.

The future of the US may be like Brazil. Asian, Jews, Whites and some blacks and latins in gated communities, and outside of them the black and latins will be killing each other.

Politically and culturally the US will be mostly latin.

With the demographic changes, the symbols will change.

Originally Posted by Black Heart

I would not be surprised if calls for removal of other figures in history happen.

Of course, and why not . . . but then you'd advocate erecting a statue of Adolf Hitler in Times Square, right?

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The future of the US may be like Brazil. Asian, Jews, Whites and some blacks and latins in gated communities, and outside of them the black and latins will be killing each other.

Poor, scared and witless little barbara . . .

Originally Posted by Black Heart

. With the demographic changes, the symbols will change.

See, what you're missing here is how to make change peacefully. Would you rather we eliminate sites of historical importance by attaching some dynamite and blowing it up like they do in the Middle East?

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Black Heart

I would not be surprised if calls for removal of other figures in history happen.

Of course, and why not . . . but then you'd advocate erecting a statue of Adolf Hitler in Times Square, right?

Bad lie by you. Bad troll by you.

I've never supported Hitler. And equating him with Lincoln is...well....a reflection of your ignorance. But then again, You're an old man in Asia. Still washed up in Malaysia?

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The future of the US may be like Brazil. Asian, Jews, Whites and some blacks and latins in gated communities, and outside of them the black and latins will be killing each other.

Poor, scared and witless little barbara . . .

Not scared at all. It's just the way people live in Brazil. You've been there?

I've been to Brazil and I've also lived in DC (inside the District and loved it) LA (in the city) Miami (in the city) and Seattle (downtown not so friendly at night) in addition to Kitsap, and Bellingham, Wa.

You?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Black Heart

. With the demographic changes, the symbols will change.

See, what you're missing here is how to make change peacefully. Would you rather we eliminate sites of historical importance by attaching some dynamite and blowing it up like they do in the Middle East?

The Middle East to USA is apple and oranges comparison,

And, I don't care about sites, whether they stay or go.

We will not be alive anyway.

But cheers SK, I appreciate your posts.

From bad to worse.

Campus zealots hound student out of lectures and bars with shouts of 'rapist' after he dared to question the effectiveness of rape 'consent workshops'

George Lawlor, 19, driven out of lectures and bars with shouts of ‘rapist’
University student questioned the effectiveness of 'consent workshops'
He now fears for his future at Warwick University after being ostracised
Mr Lawlor fears the furore will affect his academic work and future career


A student has been driven out of lectures and bars with shouts of ‘rapist’ after he dared to question the effectiveness of ‘consent workshops’.

Second-year George Lawlor, 19, fears for his future at Warwick University after being ostracised and bullied for challenging a student union drive to hold rape awareness sessions.

Writing in a blog, he argued that the overwhelming majority of people ‘don’t have to be taught to not be a rapist’ – and that men inclined to commit the crime would be unlikely to attend such a workshop.

He added that he found his invitation to one of the sessions ‘incredibly hurtful’.
But in the latest example of politically correct intolerance in universities, the student faced a fierce backlash from radical feminists. He was attacked on Twitter and Facebook by student activists branding him a ‘rapist’ and ‘misogynist’.
Mr Lawlor, who studies politics and sociology, fears the furore will affect his academic work – and his future career.

The abuse was so bad that he stopped going to lectures. He told the Daily Mail: ‘I was expecting a reaction, but I was not prepared for just how horrible it was. I remember putting it online and told a few people, who were … saying there would be a backlash.’

In the piece, ‘Why I don’t need consent lessons’, Mr Lawlor said he ‘loved consent’ but that organisers were ‘pointing out the obvious’ and ‘thinking they’ve saved the world’ by making men listen to lectures about rape.

He posed with a sign reading, ‘This is not what a rapist looks like’, to highlight that most right-thinking people know where the boundaries are. But he was called ‘classist’ and ‘racist’ by people who thought he was commenting on what the physical appearance of a ‘typical’ rapist was.


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The article was covered on news sites in the US, all over Europe and in Australia.
Mr Lawlor said Warwick student paper The Boar ‘got all their writers together to gang up’ on him with two one-sided articles. Others deleted him as a Facebook contact and sent abusive messages.

He added: ‘In real life, the bus to university was the worst … I heard people talking to each other saying, “I really want to hit that kid”. Walking through campus, people would go silent as I walked past. It was really scary … it got really nasty.’
He said that when he ran in student union elections, someone wrote on his Facebook page, ‘I want to give this guy minus one vote’, followed by another user adding, ‘I want to give this guy minus 100 per cent oxygen’.


Read more: George Lawlor hounded out of lectures after questioning rape consent workshops | Daily Mail Online

^ So now American PC madness is coddling minds in British universities! God help us!

Originally Posted by Black Heart

I've never supported Hitler.

Yes, you have

Originally Posted by Black Heart

And equating him with Lincoln is...

. . . yet another strawman by you Yawn

Originally Posted by Black Heart

You've been there?

Yes

Originally Posted by Black Heart

You?

Me? No, You. Or him? Was it her?

Posting this for my favorite WWU Viking ... ... You know who you are:

WWU cancels classes after racial threats on social media | The Seattle Times

"In an unprecedented step, Western Washington University suspended all classes Tuesday because of what President Bruce Shepard called “disturbing and very threatening” hate speech, posted on social media and targeting students of color.

Law enforcement is investigating the incident as a possible hate crime. It is believed to be the first time classes at a higher-education institution in Washington have been suspended because of a threat on social media.

Shepard, who made the decision, said he was alerted by employees at the Bellingham school who saw the threat first on the anonymous social-media phone application Yik Yak. His message on the school’s website detailed threats he said he viewed as crimes, and pledged to go after whoever made them.

He said that the target was students of color, and that he decided to suspend classes because he was concerned about the safety of all students. Tuesday was to be the last day of classes before the Thanksgiving break.

“There are any number of statements out there that are disturbing and very threatening,” Shepard said of the social-media posts. “We do not know what was in the mind of that person, of course; that is one reason we are investigating it. So, who was that person’s target? We can’t say until we locate that person and interrogate them.”

WWU campus police are taking the lead on the investigation, with assistance from the Bellingham Police. WWU spokesman Paul Cocke said police had determined that “the threats received do fall into the category of a crime.”

Students and member of the community rally at 15th Avenue Northeast and Northeast 45th Street near the University of Washington earlier this month to show their solidarity with students at the University of Missouri protesting their university's response to racial incidents on campus. (Bettina Hansen/The Seattle Times)

Universities wrestle with questions of race, security and free speech

Shepard confirmed that some of the hate speech appears to be connected to a suggestion made by some students that the school’s mascot, a Viking, be changed, saying it isn’t racially inclusive.

“If all you see is the threat, you don’t know what has motivated that,” he added. “You can’t get inside their minds. So, I’m not going to jump to conclusions.”

Cocke said a few students of color received direct threats, but officials did not release details. On social media, one running thread made references to lynching and the Ku Klux Klan, and used photos of some student-government leaders that appeared to have been lifted off WWU’s website.

On its Facebook page, the WWU Black Student Union warned its members to “PLEASE STAY OFF CAMPUS” because threats had been made “directly toward certain Black folks and the larger students of color population at Western.”

Public high schools cancel classes from time to time in light of threats, but officials at the state’s other public universities said they did not know of another instance in which a public university in Washington suspended classes because of a hate threat. Shepard, who has been a university president or chancellor for the past 15 years, said he has never done so before.

“I made the decision to do it here because I believe our students’ feelings of safety are very important, and we must listen to what they are telling us and how they feel,” he said.

In a meeting Tuesday afternoon, faculty and staff talked about the next steps they can take in showing support for Western’s students.

Many wished to issue letters of support but decided to wait to respond to the threats until after the students themselves responded.

“We are going to wait for our students to lead us in the right direction,” said Nick Sanchez, who heads a president’s task force on equity, inclusion and diversity.

It’s not the first time Western has been at the center of a controversy over race. In April 2014, during a convocation speech, Shepard said that Western was too white.

Conservative blogs, publications and commentators picked up on the story and were highly critical of Shepard’s comments, and some hate graffiti appeared on campus.

Shepard — who is white — did not back down. And hundreds of people marched on campus in support of the president.

Now, with this new incident, “there’s a feeling that this is a teachable moment — ironically, and, perhaps, tragically,” said WWU professor Vernon Johnson, who is African American and serves on the equity task force.

The school’s enrollment this fall is 73.2 percent white; blacks make up 3.4 percent of enrollment, Hispanic/Latino 7.1 percent, Asian American 11.3 percent and Native American 3 percent. That’s a small change from 2014, when 74.5 percent of students were white.

It can be difficult to prove that hate speech constitutes a crime, said Caitlin Ring Carlson, a Seattle University assistant professor who studies hate speech on social media. “That’s what’s so tricky, or interesting, about this — there’s this line between protected expression and incitement to violence,” she said.

The anonymity of Yik Yak is likely no protection. The social-media site has revealed the identity of a user to law enforcement before, she said.

Shepard’s email canceling classes went out after 6 a.m. Tuesday, and most students got the word and stayed away. But by 11 a.m., more than 40 students from Campus Christian Fellowship (CCF) and other campus ministries had congregated in Red Square in response to the news.

“That is a really awful thing, and this is the way we want to respond,” said Shelby Duffy, 19, after singing “Amazing Grace” with other students. She is a white, freshman pre-med student.

Cameron Harris, a 2012 graduate and a community adviser for CCF who is African American, came to school after the music stopped to support students and show that hate doesn’t have to be a deterrent.

“You should be able to study today, you should be able to have class, you should be able to feel safe,” he said. “As a person of color, I guess I thought it would be even more tragic if there were no faces of people of color on campus because of these threats and hate speech.”

Sergio Sanchez, a junior computer-science major from Mount Vernon, said he is glad Shepard suspended classes before the situation escalated.

“Zero tolerance,” he said. But he still came to campus Tuesday to go to the gym, saying he didn’t feel nervous.

C.J. Schiller, a junior at Western, said the incident was “a very big deal, and canceling classes shows how big a deal the school is making of it.” She said she thought Shepard had handled the situation well, and that it has “opened my eyes up” to the idea that Western might not be safe for students of color. Schiller is white.

Shepard, in a recent blog post, noted that issues surrounding the school’s mascot have arisen from time to time, and he welcomed discussion about it.

But Shepard also said he did not intend to change the mascot, at least while he is still president. He is retiring next year.

The mascot issue may have been sparked by a survey that a communications professor, Michael Karlberg, was developing to see how students felt about a specific depiction of the school’s logo. The graphic shows an angry Viking warrior, and Karlberg said the survey was only meant to test that specific logo.

In his statement, Shepard said there was no threat to general campus safety, but added: “I trust you stand with me on this: A threat to any one of us is an attack on all of us.”

Also WWU related ... "Viking" name is offensive too ... What's next?

Report: Western Washington University considering mascot change | www.kirotv.com

"Some students and a professor at Western Washington University are discussing changing the school’s Viking mascot because some see it as too aggressive, according to a report.

“I think this mascot also reflects a sort of hyper masculine, hyper violent sort of image which is doubly problematic,” communications studies professor Michael Karlberg told The Western Front, the university’s main student newspaper. “I think we really ought to reconsider.”

The Front reports the Associated Students Vice President for Diversity brought up the mascot change at AS Board meeting earlier this month in part because the Viking mascot doesn’t portray students of color

Karlberg told the Front all racialized mascots are problematic, regardless of the race.

A survey about keeping the Viking mascot, one that was selected from student-suggested names in the 1920s, is expected to eventually go to students".

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"In an unprecedented step, Western Washington University suspended all classes Tuesday because of what President Bruce Shepard called “disturbing and very threatening” hate speech, posted on social media and targeting students of color.

I wonder if the NRA will come promote a campaign for people of color to arm themselves.

Originally Posted by MrG

I wonder if the NRA will come promote a campaign for people of color to arm themselves.

They didn't much like it when the Black Panthers took to carrying firearms and, in a delicious twist of irony, actually helped draft gun control legislation.

I think they'd really rather prefer it if 'gun rights' applied only to White males.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by MrG

I wonder if the NRA will come promote a campaign for people of color to arm themselves.

They didn't much like it when the Black Panthers took to carrying firearms and, in a delicious twist of irony, actually helped draft gun control legislation.

I think they'd really rather prefer it if 'gun rights' applied only to White males.

I remember that meme or somebody posted it in the political cartoons thread.

But ... I'm slightly surprised this happened at WWU in Bellingham, WA ... thought that part of WA was more in tune with blue state thinking.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

I remember that meme or somebody posted it in the political cartoons thread.

Might have been me actually.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Also WWU related ... "Viking" name is offensive too ... What's next?

Report: Western Washington University considering mascot change | www.kirotv.com

"Some students and a professor at Western Washington University are discussing changing the school’s Viking mascot because some see it as too aggressive, according to a report.

“I think this mascot also reflects a sort of hyper masculine, hyper violent sort of image which is doubly problematic,” communications studies professor Michael Karlberg told The Western Front, the university’s main student newspaper. “I think we really ought to reconsider.”

The Front reports the Associated Students Vice President for Diversity brought up the mascot change at AS Board meeting earlier this month in part because the Viking mascot doesn’t portray students of color

Karlberg told the Front all racialized mascots are problematic, regardless of the race.

A survey about keeping the Viking mascot, one that was selected from student-suggested names in the 1920s, is expected to eventually go to students".

All in all....it's a....mascot.

With the burden of student loans, and trying to get gainful employment after graduating, I wonder how these kids - and they are kids - focus on such stupid stuff.

The viking mascont looks too "angry."

Before you get all upset and chime the bell of white civilization being destroyed, Millkie, do yourself a favour and read what was written a bit more in-depth.

One (1) professor and a few students.

ONE.

There. Now have your Horlicks and settle down