Thread: PC Madness at Unis: Coddling of the American mind

Originally Posted by longway

PC suppresses the middle ground more than anything else.

What utter nonsense . . . based on your 'fact' which is, of course, simply your opinion

Originally Posted by longway

I've provided plenty of evidence

You haven't actually, you've obfuscated, used strawmen moved goalposts . . . pretty much everything in the armoury of someone who really hasn't a clue but thinks that being verbose is akin to being 'right'

Originally Posted by longway

At the end of the day I understand

. . . very little

I had an obfuscation this morning after drinking too much coffee ...

Well duh - it is written obfuscation . .

Ah, these foreigners . . .

Originally Posted by longway

I came across this little gem - germane Greer, a famous feminist, has been banned from speaking at Cardiff University, for being a mysogonist.

Germaine Greer 'is a misogynist'? I don't know whether to laugh or cry - Telegraph



Correction trying to ban and then she pulled out.

It seems the students don't want to listen to an insensitive dinosaur who's out of touch with the modern western world.

Originally Posted by longway

I came across this little gem - germane Greer, a famous feminist, has been banned from speaking at Cardiff University, for being a mysogonist.

Germaine Greer 'is a misogynist'? I don't know whether to laugh or cry - Telegraph



Correction trying to ban and then she pulled out.

I understood it was because of her antiquated views on the T part of LGBT.

^
And yet some posters here think it's a "white privilege" thing and PC on campuses is great.

'trigger warning' - facts incoming, not bs pc fuckwit nonsense.

One if the headlines from the latest and largest ever report by equality and human rights council of the uk

White pupils from poorer backgrounds, especially boys, suffered the worst start in life as they continued to fall further behind every other ethnic group at school - with their chances of a successful and prosperous career decreasing as a result.

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/l...-great-britain

Originally Posted by Black Heart

The poster contains the phone numbers and e-mails of five (five!) campus officials that students can contact and discuss the very important issue of whether or not what they will dress up as to get drunk in will be advancing social-justice causes.

Are you sure that isn't a piss take?

^ no it isnt, they are just insane control freaks, it is the 'true face' of pc

Does this fit here? Not sure ... don't attack the messenger:

Missouri Tigers president Tim Wolfe resigns amid racial unrest

"The president of the University of Missouri system stepped down Monday, and the flagship Columbia campus' chancellor announced he will "transition" into a different position at the end of year amid criticism of their handling of student complaints about race and discrimination.

President Tim Wolfe said his resignation was effective immediately. He made the announcement at the start of what had been expected to be a long closed-door meeting of the school's governing board. He largely pre-empted that session in a halting statement that was simultaneously apologetic, clumsy and defiant.

"This is not the way change comes about," he said, alluding to recent protests. "We stopped listening to each other."

Missouri players react to president Tim Wolfe resigning

Missouri players took to Twitter to express their happiness and relief following school president Tim Wolfe's resignation.

Notable protests involving college football athletes

With Missouri football players planning to go on strike until the school's president is removed, ESPN Stats & Info has compiled a list of notable protests involving college football players.

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Missouri football players took a stand with the women who organized Missouri student protests, and they may have found an invaluable strategy for campus change, author Lawrence Ross says.

He urged students, faculty and staff to "use my resignation to heal and start talking again to make the changes necessary."

Hours later, the top administrator of the Columbia campus, Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin, announced that he would step down at the end of the year and shift to leading research efforts.

The deans of nine university departments wrote to Wolfe and the university system's governing board on Monday calling for Loftin's removal, citing a "deep concern about the multitude of crises on our flagship campus.''

A poor audio feed for the one board member who was attending the meeting via conference call left Wolfe standing awkwardly at the podium for nearly three minutes after reading only the first sentence of his statement.

The race complaints came to a head over the weekend, when at least 30 black members of the football team announced they would not participate in team activities until Wolfe was gone.

For months, black student groups have complained of racial slurs and other slights on the overwhelmingly white flagship campus of the state's four-college system. Frustrations flared during a homecoming parade Oct. 10 when protesters blocked Wolfe's car, and he did not get out and talk to them. They were removed by police.

Black members of the football team joined the outcry on Saturday night. By Sunday, a campus sit-in had grown, graduate student groups planned walkouts and politicians began to weigh in.

Until Monday, Wolfe did not indicate that he had any intention of stepping down. He agreed in a statement issued Sunday that "change is needed" and said the university was working to draw up a plan by April to promote diversity and tolerance.

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon said in a statement that Wolfe's resignation was "a necessary step toward healing and reconciliation on the University of Missouri campus."

"There is more work to do, and now the University of Missouri must move forward -- united by a commitment to excellence, and respect and tolerance for all," Nixon said.

The Tigers' next game is Saturday against BYU at Arrowhead Stadium, the home of the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs, and canceling it could have cost the school more than $1 million. Players have confirmed the game will be played as scheduled, and they'll practice on Tuesday.

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

Football coach Gary Pinkel expressed solidarity on Twitter, posting a picture of the team and coaches locking arms.

Pinkel addressed the media Monday afternoon.

BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall said Monday he's glad the game will still be played and glad Mizzou is headed in the right direction.

"I think Missouri's been dealing with some really important, but also difficult issues," Mendenhall said. "We're grateful that they're able to reach a resolution, or a beginning of a resolution might be more applicable to say. We look forward to preparing for the game at Arrowhead Stadium."

Practice and other team activities for Missouri were canceled Sunday. A statement issued by Pinkel and Missouri athletic director Mack Rhoades linked the return of the protesting football players to the end of a hunger strike by a black graduate student who began the effort Nov. 2 and has vowed to not eat until Wolfe is gone.

"Our focus right now is on the health of Jonathan Butler, the concerns of our student-athletes and working with our community to address this serious issue," the statement said.

Butler, appearing on CNN in the wake of Wolfe's resignation, said his strike is over.

"This is a great first step towards change," Butler said.

Former Missouri linebacker Michael Sam said he brought Butler water on Wednesday and noted how much more attention was put on the school in less than a week.

"There was nobody here [Wednesday]. Two tents and a reporter," Sam said. "Things change when sports gets involved."

The protests began after the student government president, who is black, said in September that people in a passing pickup truck shouted racial slurs at him. In early October, members of a black student organization said slurs were hurled at them by an apparently drunken white student.

Also, a swastika drawn in feces was found recently in a dormitory bathroom.

Many of the protests have been led by an organization called Concerned Student 1950, which gets its name from the year the university accepted its first black student. Its members besieged Wolfe's car at the parade, and they have been conducting a sit-in on a campus plaza since Nov. 2.

Two trucks flying Confederate flags drove past the site Sunday, a move many saw as an attempt at intimidation. At least 150 students gathered at the plaza Sunday night to pray, sing and read Bible verses, a larger crowd than on previous days. Many planned to camp there overnight despite temperatures that had dropped into the upper-30s.

Many of the Mizzou protests had been led by an organization called Concerned Student 1950, which gets its name from the year the university accepted its first black student. Allison Long/The Kansas City Star/AP Photos

Also joining in the protest effort were two graduate student groups that called for walkouts Monday and Tuesday and the student government at the Columbia campus, the Missouri Students Association.

The association said in a letter Sunday to the system's governing body that there had been "an increase in tension and inequality with no systemic support" since last year's fatal shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, which is about 120 miles east of Columbia.

Brown, an unarmed black 18-year-old, was shot and killed by a white police officer during a struggle, and his death helped spawn the Black Lives Matter movement rebuking police treatment of minorities.

The association said Wolfe heads a university leadership that "has undeniably failed us and the students that we represent."

"He has not only enabled a culture of racism since the start of his tenure in 2012, but blatantly ignored and disrespected the concerns of students," the group wrote.

Concerned Student 1950 has demanded, among other things, that Wolfe "acknowledge his white male privilege," that he is immediately removed, and that the school adopt a mandatory racial-awareness program and hire more black faculty and staff.

One of the sit-in participants, Abigail Hollis, a black undergraduate, said the campus is "unhealthy and unsafe for us."

"The way white students are treated is in stark contrast to the way black students and other marginalized students are treated, and it's time to stop that," Hollis said. "It's 2015."

The school's undergraduate population is 79 percent white and 8 percent black. The state is about 83 percent white and nearly 12 percent black.

Wolfe, 57, is a former software executive and Missouri business school graduate whose father taught at the university. He was hired in 2011 as president, succeeding another former business executive who also lacked experience in academia.

Lawmakers and elected officials began to weigh in Sunday. The chairman of a Missouri House higher education committee, Republican Rep. Steve Cookson, said in a statement that Wolfe "can no longer effectively lead" and should leave his post.

Joining him in calling for Wolfe's resignation was Assistant House Minority Leader Gail McCann Beatty, the highest-ranking black member of that chamber".

More here on Mizzou President resigning:

Mizzou Shows Why We Should Burn Down the Universities

"Tim Wolfe, the president of the University of Missouri—known as Mizzou—resigned early today, brought down by…well, it’s kind of hard to say.

A helpful timeline of the case indicates that it started with two cases in which black students at Mizzou said they had racial epithets shouted at them, and one in which a swastika was scrawled on the wall of a bathroom in a university building. In all three of these cases, nobody knows who did it or why. But they were taken as proof of “systemic racism” at the university, and protesters howled for Wolfe’s resignation. Throughout the case, Wolfe issued condemnations of racism, acknowledgements of the justice of the protester’s cause, and apologies for not seeming to take them seriously enough—which, as we should know by now, are all the signs that he’s doomed and will eventually be forced to resign.

Wolfe was targeted, as one protest group put it, because he was “‘not completely’ aware of systemic racism, sexism, and patriarchy on campus.” I love the “not completely.” It reminds me of the old rule about totalitarian revolutions: first, you go after the counter-revolutionaries, then you go after the insufficiently enthusiastic. So Wolfe had to be removed for failing to show immediate and total compliance toward their political agenda.

This reaction makes sense only as a raw power play, as student agitators demonstrating that they can get rid of anybody they want to, that they run this place.

The Mizzou case, along with others like it, raises a question about whether our institutions of higher learning even deserve to exist—not because they are really “systemically racist,” which no one actually believes, but because of their inability to assert any kind of rational response to the student agitators. If administrators don’t have the nerve to re-assert the actual educational purpose of the institution, this makes a pretty good case that it’s time to burn the universities to the ground (metaphorically speaking, of course) and start over from scratch.

Take a similar case from the higher end of the higher ed. Yale is in the middle of a similar upheaval that brings the issues more clearly out into the open. This one began when a Yale dean circulated an e-mail warning against “culturally insensitive” Halloween costumes. One Yale professor, Erika Christakis, replied with a reasonably worded e-mail that basically asked everyone to relax and stop being so uptight and condescending. It reads, in part:

Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious…a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive? American universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even transgressive, experience; increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition.

It’s interesting to note how much this is an expression of the old liberal pieties about freedom of expression that the contemporary left has thoroughly rejected. So you all know what’s coming next.

The response was an angry mob of student activists demanding the resignation of…her husband, Nicholas Christakis. Because every good progressive knows it’s a husband job to control his little woman, don’t you know. Actually, they went after Nicholas Christakis because as Master of Silliman College, he was slightly higher up the administrative pecking order. And when you’re after power, you want to take down the most important target.

The key part of the exchange, which was caught on video, comes when a frenzied student screams at Christakis, “It is your job to create a place of comfort and home for the students…. It is not about creating an intellectual space!”

Well, there you have the issue in a nutshell. There is an old debate about whether the purpose of education is to “socialize” students, to train them in conformity to the assumption and norms of the era—or whether the purpose of education is to, you know, actually teach people stuff, to give them the knowledge and tools they need to become effective, independent thinkers. The mob at Yale knows where it stands. To hell with all that intellectual stuff. We want the university to enforce conformity by complying with whatever demands we laid down in our latest tantrum.

Notice also that all this claptrap about “safe spaces” is a dodge. The protesters are so concerned about “safe spaces” that they formed into an angry mob to surround a lone individual and shout obscenities at him. Where is the safe space for the Christakises?

Obviously, this isn’t about safety and comfort at all. It’s about raw power. It’s about whose demands will get met whenever they make them—and who will be sacrificed to those demands.

The most prescient thing said about this kind of student protest culture was an observation made by Ayn Rand back during the first go-around, in the 1960s. The purpose of all the marches and sit-ins and riots, she wrote, was to condition students to accept mob rule. Here we are fifty years later, and this is quickly becoming the openly declared purpose of universities.

This is higher ed’s time for choosing. If this is the new purpose of the universities—to nurture a crop of activists trained at whipping up angry mobs, and a generation of college graduates conditioned to submit to those mobs—then there is no longer any purpose served by these institutions. There is certainly no justification for the outrageous claim they are making on the economic resources of the average family, who sends their kids to schools whose tuition has been inflated by decades of government subsidies.

The universities have done this to themselves. They created the whole phenomenon of modern identity politics and Politically Correct rules to limit speech. They have fostered a totalitarian microculture in which conformity to those rules is considered natural and expected. Now that system is starting to eat them alive, from elite universities like Yale, all the way down to, er, less-than-elite ones like Mizzou.

They created this Frankenstein monster, and it’s up to them to kill it before it kills them".

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PC Madness indeed - Universities were different in my day

‘Shocked’ bikers catch Stanford swimmer ‘raping’ unconscious woman

A former Stanford University swimmer who raced in the 2012 US Olympic trials has been charged with raping an intoxicated, unconscious woman on the school’s campus.

The San Jose Mercury News reports Brock Allen Turner was charged Tuesday with five felony counts on suspicion of attempted rape and penetration with a foreign object.

“She was lying on the ground unconscious, not moving,” Deputy District Attorney Alaleh Kianerci told the San Francisco Chronicle of the alleged victim, who was not a student at the university.



Prosecutors say the attack happened Jan. 18. Two men riding bikes on campus saw an unconscious woman on the ground with a man on top of her.

Turner ran away, but the two bikers chased him down and held him until police arrived.

Kainerci praised the Good Samaritans and said they acted because what they saw “shocked their conscience.”

Stanford spokeswoman Lisa Lapin said Turner, a 19-year-old freshman from Dayton, Ohio, voluntarily withdrew from the university on Tuesday. Turner is barred from campus.

“Matters like this the university takes seriously,” Lapin told the Chronicle. “The university has launched its own investigation, in addition to and separate from the law enforcement investigation.”

Turner faces being placed on the USA Swimming Banned for Life list because of his arrest in a sex felony. Turner was a three-time All-American high school swimmer.

Prosecutors declined to reveal details about the victim and said only she was attending an on-campus party.

Turner has been released on $150,000 bail.

?Shocked? bikers catch Stanford swimmer ?raping? unconscious woman | New York Post

Originally Posted by panama hat

From the same website - The Federalist:

Jennifer Lawrence Nude Pics Highlight Ongoing Struggle With Chivalry

Killing The Dead: Atheists Attack A World War I Memorial

Carly Fiorina Destroys The Women Of ‘The View’

Dear Gay Community: Your Kids Are Hurting

Quentin Tarantino Remains Defiant About Calling Cops Murderers
If Quentin Tarantino had offered a more measured response, .....

PC Madness indeed - Universities were different in my day

‘Shocked’ bikers catch Stanford swimmer ‘raping’ unconscious woman

A former Stanford University swimmer who raced in the 2012 US Olympic trials has been charged with raping an intoxicated, unconscious woman on the school’s campus.

The San Jose Mercury News reports Brock Allen Turner was charged Tuesday with five felony counts on suspicion of attempted rape and penetration with a foreign object.

“She was lying on the ground unconscious, not moving,” Deputy District Attorney Alaleh Kianerci told the San Francisco Chronicle of the alleged victim, who was not a student at the university.



Prosecutors say the attack happened Jan. 18. Two men riding bikes on campus saw an unconscious woman on the ground with a man on top of her.

Turner ran away, but the two bikers chased him down and held him until police arrived.

Kainerci praised the Good Samaritans and said they acted because what they saw “shocked their conscience.”

Stanford spokeswoman Lisa Lapin said Turner, a 19-year-old freshman from Dayton, Ohio, voluntarily withdrew from the university on Tuesday. Turner is barred from campus.

“Matters like this the university takes seriously,” Lapin told the Chronicle. “The university has launched its own investigation, in addition to and separate from the law enforcement investigation.”

Turner faces being placed on the USA Swimming Banned for Life list because of his arrest in a sex felony. Turner was a three-time All-American high school swimmer.

Prosecutors declined to reveal details about the victim and said only she was attending an on-campus party.

Turner has been released on $150,000 bail.

?Shocked? bikers catch Stanford swimmer ?raping? unconscious woman | New York Post

Well that's bizzare and completely out of context. Your point is?

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

But the point is they haven't demonstrated their IS racism at that university.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Well that's bizzare and completely out of context. Your point is?

There isn't one - just following the previous off-topic posts

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

But the point is they haven't demonstrated their IS racism at that university.

IMHO the point the football players made was to nip the crap in the bud now. And in the USA college football is a huge vehicle to make that point. You don't him-haw around with "isolated incident" BS when it comes to college football at a place like Mizzou. The revenue is huge.

^ As Storekeeper quite rightly says, it is huge.

I believe college football games average higher numbers of spectators than most NFL games and their coaches are very handsomely rewarded

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

But the point is they haven't demonstrated their IS racism at that university.

IMHO the point the football players made was to nip the crap in the bud now. And in the USA college football is a huge vehicle to make that point. You don't him-haw around with "isolated incident" BS when it comes to college football at a place like Mizzou. The revenue is huge.

How can the University admin be held responsible for isolated incidents like this?
How can they possibly monitor every utterance.?
Would we want them to?

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

"The athletes of color on the University of Missouri football team truly believe 'Injustice Anywhere is a threat to Justice Everywhere,'" the players said in a statement. "We will no longer participate in any football related activities until President Tim Wolfe resigns or is removed due to his negligence toward marginalized students' experience. WE ARE UNITED!!!!!"

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

But the point is they haven't demonstrated their IS racism at that university.

IMHO the point the football players made was to nip the crap in the bud now. And in the USA college football is a huge vehicle to make that point. You don't him-haw around with "isolated incident" BS when it comes to college football at a place like Mizzou. The revenue is huge.

How can the University admin be held responsible for isolated incidents like this?
How can they possibly monitor every utterance.?
Would we want them to?

Different perspective I guess. I see him/her as the captain of the ship. If it happens on your watch then it's your responsibility.

I'm guessing the dude had not put out any sort of guiding vision principles that outlined his equal opportunity vision for the university.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

IMHO we should applaud the Mizzou football players. This is real leadership and future leaders showing the world the best way to attack racism in 'Murica.

But the point is they haven't demonstrated their IS racism at that university.

IMHO the point the football players made was to nip the crap in the bud now. And in the USA college football is a huge vehicle to make that point. You don't him-haw around with "isolated incident" BS when it comes to college football at a place like Mizzou. The revenue is huge.

How can the University admin be held responsible for isolated incidents like this?
How can they possibly monitor every utterance.?
Would we want them to?

Different perspective I guess. I see him/her as the captain of the ship. If it happens on your watch then it's your responsibility.

I'm guessing the dude had not put out any sort of guiding vision principles that outlined his equal opportunity vision for the university.

Even if he had done, do you really think that would stop isolated incidents of racism?
There will always be the odd bad eggs, nothing you can do about it.