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Goebbels would have been proud of that shite.
So, enlighten us, who did create them?
No-one really created them. They first formed as a defence against the Iraqi Shi'a.
They were formed before the invasion of Iraq but when Bush sacked the Iraqi army many of them, now unemployed, went to IS which turned it from a lose group of militants into a trained fighting force.

https://www.quora.com/How-did-ISIS-form-When-and-where-did-ISIS-

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Thank you for confirming what I said.

Shortly after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, he set up the forerunner to today’s Islamic State: Jama’at al-Tawhid w’al-Jihad (the Party of Monotheism and Jihad), which was made up mostly of non-Iraqis.
Although Zarqawi’s rhetoric was similar to bin Laden’s, his targets were quite different. From the start, Zarqawi directed his malevolence at fellow Muslims, especially Iraq’s majority Shiite population.
Yes Harry you were right but only up to a point.

What would have happened to a fledgling IS had Bush not invaded Iraq and disbanded the Iraqi army is only conjuncture but as you see from that link the remnants of Saddam's army helped transform it into an entity that was capable of taking over large lumps of land and being the threat to the world that it is today.

So Bush must take some of the blame for without the input from the Iraqi army it is unlikely it could have grown as it did.

Oh and it would seem that if Baghdadi is dead one of Saddam's officers will be the one to take over.

If Baghdadi is dead, next IS leader likely to be Saddam-era officer | Reuters