Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Who on earth could think that picture has not stayed in the memory?

It's one of the best-remembered photographs ever taken.

There are documentaries based on that single shot, and the 'girl' in the photo has written a book.

Originally Posted by tomcat

disagree:

Originally Posted by cyrille

Who on earth could think that picture has not stayed in the memory?

Enough to change ameristan and it's vassals methods?

Originally Posted by tomcat

Originally Posted by OhOh

The girl running on the Vietnamese road didn't stay in many peoples memory for long.

disagree: it's one of the most haunting photos of the war...

Disagree as well, it's never been forgotten by anyone who saw it, and is one of the iconic images of the Vietnam War.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Wondering, how such a message comes to general knowledge? Do the ISIS (IS, Al-Kaeda, etc) have a PR office? A web, or whatever? And how such a message is confirmed/proofed?

I'm guessing the original source for that("ISIS has taken responsibility") was Rita Katz/"SITE Intelligence"

https://twitter.com/Rita_Katz/status/866814432843845632

The corporate alphabet news agencies in the US lap her 'info' up like mother's milk...

Originally Posted by SKkin

The corporate alphabet news agencies in the US lap her 'info' up like mother's milk...

got a shot of her tits?...

Originally Posted by tomcat

Originally Posted by OhOh

The girl running on the Vietnamese road didn't stay in many peoples memory for long.

disagree: it's one of the most haunting photos of the war...

The Americans we're wrong all the way, but she fled the comminists and emigrated to Canada.

The Vietnamese communists treated her terrible after 1975.

Originally Posted by tomcat

got a shot of her tits?...

thanks for asking...

Originally Posted by cyrille

Who on earth could think that picture has not stayed in the memory?

It's one of the best-remembered photographs ever taken.

There are documentaries based on that single shot, and the 'girl' in the photo has written a book.

The picture was first rejected to be published, Wikipedia of the AP photograph Nick Ut says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Ut
Before delivering his film with the Kim Phúc photo, he took her to the hospital. The publication of the photo was delayed due to the AP bureau's debate about transmitting a naked girl's photo over the wire:

...an editor at the AP rejected the photo of Kim Phuc running down the road without clothing because it showed frontal nudity. Pictures of nudes of all ages and sexes, and especially frontal views were an absolute no-no at the Associated Press in 1972...Horst argued by telex with the New York head-office that an exception must be made, with the compromise that no close-up of the girl Kim Phuc alone would be transmitted. The New York photo editor, Hal Buell, agreed that the news value of the photograph overrode any reservations about nudity.

I have seen a documentary (French) with Nic Ut, where he said it was not the "nudity" but rather a political "embarrassment", so AP were afraid to publish it. It was a lot of bickering around it with many people involved. It had not been much left and the photo would never be shown to world.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

The Americans we're wrong all the way, but she fled the comminists and emigrated to Canada.
The Vietnamese communists treated her terrible after 1975.

Where did you get that from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc
Phúc was removed from her university as a young adult studying medicine and used as a propaganda symbol by the communist government of Vietnam. In 1986, however, she was granted permission to continue her studies in Cuba. She had converted from her family's Cao Đài religion to Christianity four years earlier.[18] Prime Minister of Vietnam Phạm Văn Đồng became her friend and patron.

Kim Phúc and her family were residents of the village of Trang Bang, South Vietnam. On June 8, 1972, South Vietnamese planes dropped a napalm bomb on Trang Bang, which had been attacked and occupied by North Vietnamese forces.

Audio tapes of President Richard Nixon, in conversation with his chief of staff, H. R. Haldeman in 1972, reveal that Nixon mused "I'm wondering if that was fixed" after seeing the photograph

Rev. John Plummer, a Vietnam veteran, who believed he took part in coordinating the air strike with the South Vietnamese Air Force (though Plummer's entire chain of command and declassified documents indicate otherwise[24]) met with Phúc briefly and was publicly forgiven. Plummer later admitted to The Baltimore Sun he had "lied", saying he was "caught up in the emotion at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the day Phuc spoke".[25][26] Canadian filmmaker, Shelley Saywell, made a documentary about their meeting.

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Wondering, how such a message comes to general knowledge? Do the ISIS (IS, Al-Kaeda, etc) have a PR office? A web, or whatever? And how such a message is confirmed/proofed?

I'm guessing the original source for that("ISIS has taken responsibility") was Rita Katz/"SITE Intelligence"

https://twitter.com/Rita_Katz/status/866814432843845632

The corporate alphabet news agencies in the US lap her 'info' up like mother's milk...

The original source wasnt SITE. As usual it was one of the IS channels on Telegram. SITE get their stuff from the same sources and make a fortune selling it to the media but only an idiot would think SITE were the original source.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

but only an idiot would think SITE were the original source.

Fine, whatever floats your boat Dr....actually some of the 'news' agencies have learned not to give credit to SITE as an original source as they used to in the past.( But they're still using SITE info. I think they got burned on some of the green screen beheading videos.)

Like for instance(in the past) in the Brussels attack.

Brussels attacks: ISIS claims responsibility; photo issued for suspect after attacks at Zaventem airport, Maelbeek Metro station - CBS News

The communique was published in Arabic and French, and an English translation was provide by the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors jihadi websites.

SITE usually provides the first English translations...which is why I'm calling them an original source.

So lets see in the present if SITE is/was mentioned anywhere for the Manchester bombing...


Manchester Bombing Suspect Identified, US Officials Say; ISIS Claims Responsibility

The Islamic State did not give any details about the attacker or how the blast was carried out late Monday. Its statement was posted on the online messaging service Telegram and later noted by the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant websites.

https://infoforyour.com/isis-support...icide-bombing/

Rita Katz, director of the SITE Intelligence Group, tweeted, “No claim regarding blasting in Manchester, but ISIS accounts celebrating the attack, disseminating media and threats.”

ISIS Claims Responsibility for Manchester Attack

In a post monitored by SITE intelligence analysts , the website declared that a “soldier of the caliphate” was responsible for the attack.

ISIS Claims Responsibility For Manchester Terrorist Attack | Time.com

1) BREAKING: #ISIS claims responsibility for attack at #ManchesterArena concert pic.twitter.com/SHEJ61EjKu
- Rita Katz (@Rita_Katz) May 23, 2017

An image of ISIS' statement was shared on Twitter by Rita Katz, Director of SITE Intelligence Group, a company that tracks the online activity of white supremacist and jihadist organizations. In another tweet, Katz said that ISIS released instructions on how to manufacture a bomb in November.

4)Following up on reports of potential suicideboming, #ISIS officially released detailed instructions on how to make a home-made bomb inNov pic.twitter.com/RIfrhV2nXq
- Rita Katz (@Rita_Katz) May 23, 2017

Manchester Bombing Suspect Identified | Glamour

The SITE Intelligence Group published a translated statement calling those killed in the attack "crusaders" and threatening further violence. However, it's still not clear how ISIS may actually be connected to the bombing. Law enforcement officials in Britain have said that one man detonated the bomb in a suicide attack, and they have arrested a 23-year old in connection with the incident. Investigators are still working to find out whether this is an isolated attack or the person responsible was working with a broader group.

https://twitter.com/siteintelgroup/s...87377520193540

Father and Brother of Manchester Bomber Arrested in Libya (1) - SFGate

Islamic State claimed the Manchester attack in a short message in Arabic and English posted on the online messaging service Telegram and picked up by the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant websites. It did not give any details about the attacker, or how the blast was carried out, leading some analysts to question the extent of the militant group’s involvement.

What Does It Mean When ISIS Claims Responsibility For An Attack? | NPR & Houston Public Media

The other route is more direct though less common: The Islamic State issues a statement itself, with no intermediary. The Nashir Media Foundation is considered the official ISIS channel, and its statements are considered to come directly from the group, said Rita Katz, the director of the SITE Intelligence Group.

"When these claims show up, it's an indication of the role that ISIS played," she said.

Katz also said she saw a flood of communication among ISIS supporters shortly after Monday night's attack in Manchester, England, reminiscent of other large ISIS attacks. That was a strong signal to her that ISIS was directly behind the bombing.

On Tuesday, as she expected, ISIS issued its own statement, strengthening her belief that it was directly involved. The Amaq News Agency followed shortly afterward with a bulletin of its own.

Either way, outlets like the Long War Journal and SITE Intelligence Group monitor what's being posted. When a claim has been made, they'll translate it and publish it online.

Islamic State Claims Responsibility For Manchester Bombing - One News Page

According to AP, there was no immediate claim of responsibility. Online, supporters of the extremist Islamic State group, which holds territory in Iraq's Mosul and around its de facto capital in the Syrian city of Raqqa, celebrated the blast. One wrote: "May they taste what the weak people in Mosul and (Raqqa) experience from their being bombed and burned," according to the U.S.-based SITE Intelligence Group.

Are you seeing a pattern yet? From all these supposedly independent sources.

Agenda driven 'News'...

Originally Posted by DrB0b

All SITE does is translate and sell to a media that also can't read Arabic.

I guess if the media wasn't so interested in pushing an agenda(in which SITE fits in perfectly) they'd get off their collective asses and get some real translators wouldn't they?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

al-furqan media, do you know who they are?

al-qaeda's cousins? Saudis?

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by DrB0b

All SITE does is translate and sell to a media that also can't read Arabic.

I guess if the media wasn't so interested in pushing an agenda(in which SITE fits in perfectly) they'd get off their collective asses and get some real translators wouldn't they?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

al-furqan media, do you know who they are?

al-qaeda's cousins? Saudis?

Official IS media, which you'd know if you knew anything at all about this subject. Back in your box, you silly little man.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by tomcat

Originally Posted by OhOh

The girl running on the Vietnamese road didn't stay in many peoples memory for long.

disagree: it's one of the most haunting photos of the war...

Disagree as well, it's never been forgotten by anyone who saw it, and is one of the iconic images of the Vietnam War.

That and the photo of the Viet general executing the viet cong.

Originally Posted by bsnub

That and the photo of the Viet general executing the viet cong.

Or the Buddhist monk self-immolating...at the very beginnings of the Vietnam conflict(1963).

Originally Posted by OhOh

We need pictures of little brown girls being napalmed at a wedding party to grab some bodys attention, or not. The girl running on the Vietnamese road didn't stay in many peoples memory for long.

The Photgraph sure stays in one memories, but have similar photos taken more recently invoked the same feeling of disgust at the warmongers actions. I think not.

That is what, has been forgotten.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The girl running on the Vietnamese road didn't stay in many peoples memory for long.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The Photgraph sure stays in one memories

...well, which is it?

...uh oh.

WOW! My photo was deleted.

[quote=OhOh;3546323]

Originally Posted by OhOh

similar photos taken more recently invoked the same feeling of disgust at the warmongers actions. I think not.

That is what, has been forgotten.

The disgust at the actions of the current warmongers.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The disgust at the actions of the current warmongers.

...so, your disgust...not a fan of warmongers then...

Originally Posted by bsnub

WOW! My photo was deleted.

TD...Censored and sanitized for your protection.

Mod Panties-in-a-bunch was working overtime yesterday.