What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

**panama hat** · 01-12-2015, 11:52 AM

Hardly anything new that countries who rely on basically one commodity for the vast majority of their wealth will suffer in a downturn of that commodity.

Fox Business is shrewd . . . to report something that everyone knows and Economics students learn in their first week 101

**longway** · 01-12-2015, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And you know they are IS and not Turkmen how......?

Are you suggesting there is a difference? They are both armed, trained, patched up and directed by the crusader coalition to fight against the duly elected Syrian Government. You know like butchering the Government officials trying to exert Syrian law and order.

Which one is being labelled as the "Bad, moderate or good terrorists" this week. The MSM changes their name tags by the day harry.

I think his point is that it could be in a region where isis is not active and there are Syrian Turkmen militia, but this is at the border at kobane where isis fighters are very active.

**harrybarracuda** · 01-12-2015, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And you know they are IS and not Turkmen how......?

Are you suggesting there is a difference? They are both armed, trained, patched up and directed by the crusader coalition to fight against the duly elected Syrian Government. You know like butchering the Government officials trying to exert Syrian law and order.

Which one is being labelled as the "Bad, moderate or good terrorists" this week. The MSM changes their name tags by the day harry.

I don't understand, are you saying Putin's crusader coalition is directing them?

Or are you confusing this with the US-led coalition again?

Either way, you're spouting bollocks again.

I don't recall the Turkmen fighting for an Islamic Caliphate.

And stop with your "duly elected Syrian government" shit, even you know that's rubbish.

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Either way, you're spouting bollocks again.

Another insightful riposte from the forum gobshite

Hey Harry show us that map again you got all your info on the caliphate from...

**DrB0b** · 02-12-2015, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Either way, you're spouting bollocks again.

Another insightful riposte from the forum gobshite

Hey Harry show us that map again you got all your info on the caliphate from...

What was so funny about the map he posted? It was originally from Dabiq and shows the lands IS claim for their Caliphate. It might strike you as funny but it was a genuine map of the lands IS claim are theirs.

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 03:02 AM

a. he claimed he linked it from one source when it was actually from the Mail online
b. he believes that shit

Hey Bob, you're a clever fella... how do you think IS are going to overthrow/convert 1 billion Hindu in the Indian sub continent..?

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

They are both armed, trained, patched up and directed by the crusader coalition to fight against the duly elected Syrian Government.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't understand, are you saying Putin's crusader coalition is directing them?

Yeah cos there's always been two Crusader coalitions eh Harry...

Simple mistake

**DrB0b** · 02-12-2015, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Neo

a. he claimed he linked it from one source when it was actually from the Mail online
b. he believes that shit

Hey Bob, you're a clever fella... how do you think IS are going to overthrow/convert 1 billion Hindu in the Indian sub continent..?

1) It was actually originally from Dabiq.

2) With bullets, bombs, fire, water, stones and knives. Are you aware of how many people died or were displaced during partition and how they died? Or that historically India has been a Muslim state? There are half a billion muslims on the subcontinent. Are you also aware that most of those billion Hindus, because of caste divisions, hate each other even more than they hate muslims and would happily join in annihilating each other?

**Lantern** · 02-12-2015, 04:12 AM

Spetsnaz!!!

Subject: Fighting Fire With Fire (A part of current history)

First the tough French Foreign Legion —Now the fearsome Russian Spetsnaz... (special forces)..!! BIG shit coming —for the ISIS..!

RUSSIAN SPECIAL FORCES: HAS ISIS MET ITS FEAR MERCHANT MATCH?

by JAMES ZUMWALT Oct 2015649

ISIS is a fear merchant. It depends heavily upon using fear to intimidate those opposed to it.

In its high-publicized videos, legions of soulless bodies fill its ranks, regularly demonstrating limitless savagery in executing their enemies. Be-headings, burning prisoners alive, attaching bombs to babies to show new recruits how explosives rip a human body apart, running tanks over prisoners, etc.— no means of execution is beyond the pale as they market fear.

But fear can be a double-edged sword. A force capable of demonstrating this has just entered the fray in Syria. Having used fear previously very effectively against Muslim extremists, this force looks to do so again—only this time its blade will come down on ISIS.

Russian President Vladimir Putin recently dispatched a military group in which he has great pride and confidence—his special forces—to Syria. The group has been honed into a uniquely skilled counter-terrorism killing machine, known in Russia for getting the job done.

Russia’s special forces originated out of a terrorist act perpetrated more than four decades ago by another violent Muslim group.

In Munich, Germany, Palestinian terrorists of Black September kidnapped and killed eleven Israeli athletes and a German police officer during the 1972 Summer Olympics. The attack prompted the head of the KGB (the Soviet secret police), Yuri Andropov, to order the creation of a special military force trained in counter-terrorism.

With its establishment two years later, the force initially was used for domestic security. But once deployed outside the homeland, it quickly established a bloody reputation for itself.

Comparable to our own elite fighters of US Delta Force, Russian special forces have an operational edge ours do not. While battlefield actions by U.S. forces will, appropriately, always be defined by the laws of land warfare, Russian special forces historically have tossed their moral compass aside. By doing so, they convey a clear message—in blood—to adversaries.

After Moscow invaded Afghanistan in December 1979, Russian special forces were tasked to implement “regime change.” Wearing Afghan uniforms, they quickly secured strategic government buildings in Kabul. Storming the presidential palace, they followed through on orders to kill every Afghan in the building. Not only was Afghan President Hafizullah Amin killed along with his mistress and young son, but so too were all witnesses.

Russian special forces played a significant role in Afghanistan throughout the ten year war. But their reputation for taking whatever action necessary to complete its mission was cemented in Lebanon.

In October 1985, a radical Muslim Brotherhood splinter group kidnapped four Soviet diplomats in Beirut. By the time Russian special forces reached the city, one of the diplomats had already been executed.

As Moscow’s policy was never to negotiate with terrorists, no effort was made to do so. Using a network of informants, the Russians identified the militant group responsible and the kidnappers involved.

With the kidnappers’ names in hand, the Russians immediately rounded up their family members, taking them hostage. They then cut off hostages’ body parts, delivering them to the militants along with the threat to continue making deliveries.

The militants got the message. The surviving Russian diplomats were immediately released. For two decades thereafter, Russian diplomats operated safely abroad without fear of becoming targets of Muslim terrorists.

But in 2006, Putin had to call upon his special forces again after four Russian officials in Iraq were abducted and murdered. He gave the order those responsible were to be “destroyed.” Each of the militants involved was hunted down and killed.

Russian naval special forces also have not shied away from playing the fear card. In 2010, the forces confronted Somali pirates.

Operating from their mother ship, the Somalis pirated a Russian oil tanker. Russian naval special forces boarded the tanker, easily routing the pirates, taking them captive and putting them back on board their mother ship. There, the pirates were securely tied up and the mother ship fitted with explosives. Once back on their own ship, the Russians detonated the explosives.

No Russian ship since then has been pirated.

Russian special forces have demonstrated they can rise to the same level of violence as ISIS.

As they hit the ground running in Syria, the Russians will set out—aided by their Iranian and Syrian friends—to establish informant networks to identify, locate and kill ISIS leaders. Where possible to do so, they will ensure they die a violent death in a way that conveys the message they seek to send.

If there is an Arabic word for “karma,” ISIS will soon be muttering it.

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Neo

a. he claimed he linked it from one source when it was actually from the Mail online
b. he believes that shit

Hey Bob, you're a clever fella... how do you think IS are going to overthrow/convert 1 billion Hindu in the Indian sub continent..?

1) It was actually originally from Dabiq.

2) With bullets, bombs, fire, water, stones and knives. Are you aware of how many people died or were displaced during partition and how they died? Or that historically India has been a Muslim state? There are half a billion muslims on the subcontinent. Are you also aware that most of those billion Hindus, because of caste divisions, hate each other even more than they hate muslims and would happily join in annihilating each other?

Don't encourage him Bob

**Neverna** · 02-12-2015, 07:19 AM

^^ breitbart.com

**longway** · 02-12-2015, 08:09 AM

What will it take to get rid of isis? The USA, Saudi, Oman, qatar to stop supporting them,and to get turkey to stop war profiteering from them and severe their links with them and secure it's borders.

But no we will bomb stuff and then welcome in young men displaced by these mad wars, what could possibly go wrong?

**OhOh** · 02-12-2015, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by longway

it could be in a region where isis is not activ

And you have evidence to suggest that there are no "non-moderate terrorists", foreign advisers, that the "local terrorists" do not have weapons supplied to them by foreign governments, they are not provided with "aid" by foreign governments and they do not slaughter Syrian Government, Hezbollah or Iranian armed forces?

Wake up smell the coffee.

Here are the points on which the UK politicians will vote on the motion to go and slaughter some innocent civilians. From the telegraph.

Jeremy Corbyn could have stopped this war. Now it will be his epitaph - Telegraph

"Syria vote: the 11-point motion

These are the 11 points MPs will vote on:

That this House notes that ISIL poses a direct threat to the United Kingdom;
Welcomes United Nations Security Council Resolution 2249 which determines that ISIL constitutes an ‘unprecedented threat to international peace and security’ and calls on states to take ‘all necessary measures’ to prevent terrorist acts by ISIL and to ‘eradicate the safe haven they have established over significant parts of Iraq and Syria’;
Further notes the clear legal basis to defend the UK and our allies in accordance with the UN Charter;
Notes that military action against ISIL is only one component of a broader strategy to bring peace and stability to Syria;
Welcomes the renewed impetus behind the Vienna talks on a ceasefire and political settlement;
Welcomes the Government’s continued determination to cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons;
Notes the requests from France, the US and regional allies for UK military assistance;
Acknowledge the important of seeking to avoid civilian casualties, using the YK’s particular capabilities;
Notes the Government will not deploy troops in ground combat operations;
Welcomes the Government’s commitment to provide quarterly progress reports to the House;
Accordingly supports Her Majesty’s Government in taking military action, specifically airstrikes, exclusively against ISIL in Syria and offers its wholehearted support to Her Majesty’s Armed Forces."

Item 1. above.

"ISIL poses a direct threat to the United Kingdom"

How many ISIL members have been convicted in a UK court and are in jail in the UK?Item 3. above.

Here is an opinion of the "legality" of any country using armed force in Syria. You note that the UK government's legal advice has not been included in the motion for debate and acceptance.

Legal basis for UK military action in Syria, by Arabella Lang

In essence, the recent UN resolution does not give any country legal backing for military action in Syria, unless they have been requested by the Syrian Government to act on their orders. Which Russia, Iran and Hezbollah have received from the Syrian Government. The recent UN resolution does not authorise illegal actions and does not give it. The motion is lying. All members voting in favour will become war criminals.

But hey Blair is still a free man.

Item 6. above.

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

**Cujo** · 02-12-2015, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

Why do you use the term 'crusaders'?

**OhOh** · 02-12-2015, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

Why do you use the term 'crusaders'?

Ask harry he understands.

**Cujo** · 02-12-2015, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

Why do you use the term 'crusaders'?

Ask harry he understands.

I'm asking you as you used it.
So why do you?

**OhOh** · 02-12-2015, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

Why do you use the term 'crusaders'?

Ask harry he understands.

I'm asking you as you used it.
So why do you?

And I'm not answering. Try looking through the thread as most do and you will discover why.

**harrybarracuda** · 02-12-2015, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by OhOh

They are both armed, trained, patched up and directed by the crusader coalition to fight against the duly elected Syrian Government.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't understand, are you saying Putin's crusader coalition is directing them?

Yeah cos there's always been two Crusader coalitions eh Harry...

Simple mistake

There is only one coalition that has the full backing of the state's Orthodox Church.

You do know what Crusade is, don't you?

It's tedious having to try and compensate for your ignorance.

I excuse it from OhOh because he just parrots what he reads on his tin foil websites.

**OhOh** · 02-12-2015, 01:37 PM

Looks like Quamaroon has foiled another "terrorist" attack in the UK. Just before the Commons votes on illegally attacking Syria.

Or was it a case of bad parking by allegedly a BBC employee, whose religious leanings have not been reported, yet.

https://www.rt.com/uk/324128-bomb-scare-bbc-evacuation/

I used to walk down that street every morning to my office.

**harrybarracuda** · 02-12-2015, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by OhOh

The crusader coalition has had 5 years to "cut ISIL’s sources of finance, fighters and weapons". Reports from crusader coalition's, government members/military officers/"spokespersons" indicate, that in fact, they have done and are doing just the opposite.

Why do you use the term 'crusaders'?

Ask harry he understands.

I'm asking you as you used it.
So why do you?

And I'm not answering. Try looking through the thread as most do and you will discover why.

Because he read it on some trendy tin foil website and likes the sound of it.

When in reality the only coalition with Church backing is Russia's so he has it arse about face as usual.

**harrybarracuda** · 02-12-2015, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

"ISIL poses a direct threat to the United Kingdom"

[/I]How many ISIL members have been convicted in a UK court and are in jail in the UK?Item 3. above.

What difference does that actually make in relation to the word "threat"?

Are they supposed to wait until a suicide bomber blows up another tube station before they make an arrest? Might be a bit late.

We've seen what an IS attack looks like.

Russia knows how dangerous they are, too.

Just how fucking dumb are you exactly, you seem to be outdoing yourself.

**OhOh** · 02-12-2015, 02:04 PM

December 1, 2015 Military Operations Against ISIS

An Ameristan defence Secretary has a few words of advice to the Turks.

Ashton Carter Joseph Dunford Testimony Military | Video | C-SPAN.org

https://www.rt.com/usa/324135-syria-us-isis-force/

“Most of their air operations are not directed at ISIL,” Carter said. “They are directed at the PKK, which we understand their concern about — it’s a terrorist organization within their borders — but we would like to see them do more against ISIL.”

Are the PKK on the approved "bad terrorist" list or on somebody elses "good/moderate" terorist list. Is Carter sure they are actually "terrorists" or just "rebels" which need protecting from the Turkish horror state?

He also announces some of the "no boots on the ground" special operatives.

Not the special fog which hides the boots actually hitting the ground. The Ameristans will do anything to hide the truth. How much does it cost to transport all that fog to Syria?

"These special operators will over time be able to conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence, and capture ISIL leaders,"

Is that hours, days, weeks, months, years or decades? Why does he think they will be able to capture ISIL leaders, how many have they captured in the past 20+ years. Sure they allegedly have slaughtered some from 21km using "smart bombs", they have alleged they even slaughtered one and gave him a sea burial. Unfortunately all the witnesses to these deeds have been mysteriously killed them selves.

**harrybarracuda** · 02-12-2015, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Sure they allegedly have slaughtered some from 21km using "smart bombs", they have alleged they even slaughtered one and gave him a sea burial. Unfortunately all the witnesses to these deeds have been mysteriously killed them selves.

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

When in reality the only coalition with Church backing is Russia's so he has it arse about face as usual.

Changing the narrative to fit your story again Harry...

**Neo** · 02-12-2015, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Just how fucking dumb are you exactly, you seem to be outdoing yourself.

And another quality riposte in news... you really are outdoing yourself Harry

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