Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
Did you fail to read my post, I said Chinese are getting better.
You may wish to revisit your post.

Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
Chineseare for now behind, but I believe they will get better.
Implying not as good as some other Navies.

Now you may know, I certainly do not, that these exceptional navies steam out of port with not a care in the world. They refuse to turn on their radar and sonar, they allow their sailors to stay in bed, watch videos and drink plenty of rum.

Why, because they are exceptional and nobody would challenge them.

I on the other hand would tend to the view that:

1. Prior to sailing all hands are on station, some of course are resting until their watch starts or maybe stood on deck to attention so the shore based exceptional navy personnel can admire the brave boys off to save the world from today's evil empire.
2. All equipment, necessary for the safety of the vessel and the other vessels in the carrier group it is defending, is operational and being observed by a watchful crew. or are they frantically trying to cool the reactor down so it doesn't blow up close to the base.
3. All equipment means defensive and offensive weapon systems. The galley, cinema and massage rooms are of course inspected prior to raising the anchors.
4. Immediately a threat is determined, the chain of command is notified. After he has had his/her coffee and cigar.
5. The commanding officer decides if action is to be taken and what action to take.
6. the Admiral radioes for orders from the Navy headquarters who, it being a Sunday morning are either asleep, at church or at the beach with their families.
7. After decoding, confirmation of authenticity and the assembly, by bosuns chairs, of all the groups vessels captains. The consumption of more coffee and cigars, a consensus is reached as to the desirable response.
8. Taking into account, the top brass's orders, the available weapons at hand, the weather conditions and today's horoscope of the Admiral.
9. One of the following is issued,
a. The order to fire, is passed to the appropriate weapons team.
b. The largest white flag available is raised to the top of the tallest mast.
c. Another cup of coffee and a cigar is ordered from the Admiral's steward.
e. Clarification of the top brass's orders is requested because one of the points (in 8. above) precludes action, according to the SOE adopted by the carrier group yesterday.



I would also tend to the view that an undetected, foreign, submarine popping up in the middle of a carrier group would be deemed a threat to the carrier group.

Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
Royal Navy does have pretty sophisticated equipment, but it's more than that, pretty sophisticated personnel
But are they as exceptional/sophisticated as the American navy?