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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you don't think going into Afghanistan to take out the Bin Ladin organization was of any importance to the western world? I
    thought that was the only reason they had for going in.
    to get Bin Badin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you don't think going into Afghanistan to take out the Bin Ladin organization was of any importance to the western world?
    Yes, I think it was necessary to get bin Laden, and if that meant bringing down the Taliban Govt that protected him, so be it.
    I think what was done afterwards in Iraq was a crime perpetrated by a lie in support of endless war for the blood cult neo-cons (some of whom now advise Jeb Bush) and oil profits for the Cheney crowd. Just another day at the office for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you don't think going into Afghanistan to take out the Bin Ladin organization was of any importance to the western world?
    Yes, I think it was necessary to get bin Laden, and if that meant bringing down the Taliban Govt that protected him, so be it.
    I think what was done afterwards in Iraq was a crime perpetrated by a lie in support of endless war for the blood cult neo-cons (some of whom now advise Jeb Bush) and oil profits for the Cheney crowd. Just another day at the office for them.
    Cannot say I think invading Iraq was in the best interests of the US, but I thought your post was about Afghanistan and what a joke it was for the US to go into Afghanistan.

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    ^Just following the British, in and out over a century or so, to no avail.

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    Ah, but American self-proclaimed exceptionalism should have triumphed

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    ^Like we ded in Vietnam--declare an enormous victory and leave.

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    news just in

    IS are not happy that someone is recruiting female soldiers to take up the fight
    against them.
    Being killed by a female soldier will terminate his contract with
    the Mighty One and the 72 virgins he dreamed of will no longer be on the table.
    He will have no rights when he's killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    news just in

    IS are not happy that someone is recruiting female soldiers to take up the fight
    against them.
    Being killed by a female soldier will terminate his contract with
    the Mighty One and the 72 virgins he dreamed of will no longer be on the table.
    He will have no rights when he's killed.
    I can see many ex-wives being volunteered for this army

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you don't think going into Afghanistan to take out the Bin Ladin organization was of any importance to the western world? I
    thought that was the only reason they had for going in.
    to get Bin Badin.
    Was the Taliban a Bin Laden organisation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    news just in

    IS are not happy that someone is recruiting female soldiers to take up the fight
    against them.
    Being killed by a female soldier will terminate his contract with
    the Mighty One and the 72 virgins he dreamed of will no longer be on the table.
    He will have no rights when he's killed.
    Someone needs to point out to them that not only that but all the bullets they use have been tipped with pigs blood.

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    Virgins still drip every month. Don't think a woman's or a pig's blood has different effects, once you taste red you're easily led.

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    Oh dear.

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    Remember this guy?



    Öcalan, the most wanted terrorist between Carlos and Bin Laden. Nowadays every time on a pic on the wall of any room of your newest ally against ISIS, the Kurdish PKK. Watch out for it next time it's on the news. Al Queda used to be an American vassal, now it's the PKK, and ISIS will become one some day. They share your fundamentals, faith in God and private ownership of everything.
    Boon Mee: 'Israel is the 51st State. De facto - but none the less, essentially part & parcel of the USA.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you don't think going into Afghanistan to take out the Bin Ladin organization was of any importance to the western world? I
    thought that was the only reason they had for going in.
    to get Bin Badin.
    Was the Taliban a Bin Laden organisation?
    Possibly not, they were just protecting him. Guilt by association.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainfall View Post
    Remember this guy?



    Öcalan, the most wanted terrorist between Carlos and Bin Laden. Nowadays every time on a pic on the wall of any room of your newest ally against ISIS, the Kurdish PKK. Watch out for it next time it's on the news. Al Queda used to be an American vassal, now it's the PKK, and ISIS will become one some day. They share your fundamentals, faith in God and private ownership of everything.
    He's still in prison, isn't he? The PKK want him released. http://www.freeocalan.org/

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    What will it take to get rid of ISIS?

    Surrender to them and wait them to grow stronger?

    Hell no. Infiltrate them, learn where their highest ranking people will be and then fcing bomb them to stone age. It's going to cost Tomahawks. But to complete the mission, US and UK units will need to hit in hard and there may be casualties. That is the cost. Our politicians need to decide if it is worth it.

    Not that complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
    US and UK
    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy
    Our politicians need to decide
    You are neither a Brit nor an American . . . why not go to your fellow Serb/Croat government and ask them to intervene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy View Post
    What will it take to get rid of ISIS?

    Surrender to them and wait them to grow stronger?

    Hell no. Infiltrate them, learn where their highest ranking people will be and then fcing bomb them to stone age. It's going to cost Tomahawks. But to complete the mission, US and UK units will need to hit in hard and there may be casualties. That is the cost. Our politicians need to decide if it is worth it.

    Not that complicated.
    Infiltrate them? Who the fukc has the stones to pull that off? Seems far fetched to me. Why do we need to do anything? ISIS is no threat to the USA or Uk at the present time that I can tell. Maybe there is some geopolitical bullshit reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Infiltrate them? Who the fukc has the stones to pull that off?
    Bit of humint, I am sure they are infiltrated already to some degree


    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Why do we need to do anything? ISIS is no threat to the USA or Uk at the present time that I can tell
    This is the question. You would have said Hitler is no threat back in the 30's? Humanitarian reasons like ending mass rapes and cutting off hands put aside. This lot deserves to be bombed to stone age, the bright side for their friends is it makes no difference to them since they already live in stone age. But just to save thousands of school girls from something worse than death, we have to act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exit Strategy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Infiltrate them? Who the fukc has the stones to pull that off?
    Bit of humint, I am sure they are infiltrated already to some degree


    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Why do we need to do anything? ISIS is no threat to the USA or Uk at the present time that I can tell
    This is the question. You would have said Hitler is no threat back in the 30's? Humanitarian reasons like ending mass rapes and cutting off hands put aside. This lot deserves to be bombed to stone age, the bright side for their friends is it makes no difference to them since they already live in stone age. But just to save thousands of school girls from something worse than death, we have to act.
    Don't know but I've had it suggested to me that ISIS has probably for sure infiltrated the Saudi military. Never really figured out what the point of that would be.

    I don't know man. I suppose I'm numb to any humanitarian concerns. My thinking being it's not worth more deaths of American and our allies. And we some to be reluctant to raise taxes to pay for this stuff.

    But then again my thoughts about the military are again evolving. Meaning ... They're all "volunteers" after all.

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    I have to agree with you this is not exact science.

    It is more than likely ISIS has infiltrated Saudi military which would then, in their thinking, confuse allied US and UK military but of course we are prepared for that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    I suppose I'm numb to any humanitarian concerns
    Well that is sad, man. I guess world does that to you. I was like that before I fell in love.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/14/wo...share&_r=0ISIS Enshrines a
    Theology of Rape

    Claiming the Quran’s support, the Islamic State
    codifies sex slavery in conquered regions of Iraq
    and Syria and uses the practice as a recruiting tool.


    QADIYA, Iraq — In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her — it condoned and encouraged it, he insisted.
    He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her.


    When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion.


    “I kept telling him it hurts — please stop,” said the girl, whose body is so small an adult could circle her waist with two hands. “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God,” she said in an interview alongside her family in a refugee camp here, to which she escaped after 11 months of captivity.


    The systematic rape of women and girls from the Yazidi religious minority has become deeply enmeshed in the organization and the radical theology of the Islamic State in the year since the group announced it was reviving slavery as an institution. Interviews with 21 women and girls who recently escaped the Islamic State, as well as an examination of the group’s official communications, illuminate how the practice has been enshrined in the group’s core tenets.


    Rest of article in the link.

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    https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/p...ampaign=buffer

    A pro-Islamic State hacking group sent a chilling warning to members of the U.S. military and government Wednesday, promising followers of the organization would retaliate “very soon” for overseas bombing targeting the militant group.

    A representative for the Islamic State Hacking Division told The Blaze the group is constantly spying on U.S. servicemen. On Tuesday, the group published personal information purported to belong to U.S. military and government workers online.

    “Just like they spy on muslims, we are spying on them, watching their employees, watching their soldiers, recording their movements and taking their location information and passing i…location information and passing it on to the soldiers of the Islamic State,” the anonymous source told The Blaze.

    “They have no security just like their employees and military personnel have no OpSec,” he continued, “They are people who like to brag and boast and this is to our advantage.”

    Using the anonymous messaging app, Kik, the source told The Blaze the group is not focused on attacking military bases and secured buildings, but said jihadist fighters “can now turn up in their houses. In their homes. This is war, what did you expect? u think u can bomb the islamic state and we don’t do nothing back? soon, very soon you will see.”

    When asked what kind of attacks could be expected, the source replied, “you will see when US military and government personnel start getting beheaded in their homes.”

    The source boasted of the hacking group’s skill set, claiming the group “probably” could have breached former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server.

    He did not specify the group’s methodology however, saying, “Let the US gov figure that out".

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    Rapes. I feel sick thinking about it. Foking bomb them to stone age.

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    Here are the words posted by a fiction writer based out of Bangkok on his FB page:

    "How long will it be before we've had enough, before we man up and wipe these savages off the face of the earth? Sometimes I wonder if this nation will ever again have the resolve stand against the barbarians as we have so many times in the past. Certainly not until we have a new president, if then".

    I keep wanting to go back and ask him why he doesn't grab a rifle and get his ass over there. I doubt he's ever served in the military ... typical fucking chicken hawk.

    Least he could have done was join the Navy and be a REMFer.

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