Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Read on The Lions of Rojava page on Facebook today that the first American volunteer helping to fight ISIS died today or yesterday.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Obama is at Two Dozen Scandals and Counting | White House Dossier

In regards to # 19 ... I've heard in the past from solid sources that Vice Admiral Sestak was a real sunsabitch to work for. This upcoming run for Senator should be his last.

This guy? Keith Thomas Broomfield

Funeral of American YPG fighter Keith Thomas Broomfield

^ That page posts some gruesome photos. Surprised they get away with it.

Can't believe I missed this:

Islamic State Pays Tribute To WWII Veterans

“While they are of the kuffar, we can’t help but admire their methods,” ISIS spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani told Duffel Blog. “That whole ‘exterminate the Jews’ and appropriating land thing? I know they would never admit it, but I could tell someone had been studying their Al-Anfal and Prophet Muhammad’s letters.”

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Can't believe I missed this:

Islamic State Pays Tribute To WWII Veterans

“While they are of the kuffar, we can’t help but admire their methods,” ISIS spokesman Abu Mohammad al-Adnani told Duffel Blog. “That whole ‘exterminate the Jews’ and appropriating land thing? I know they would never admit it, but I could tell someone had been studying their Al-Anfal and Prophet Muhammad’s letters.”

You know it's satire, don't you?

^obviously not

^^
You won't believe you missed this either
Pentagon Releases Preliminary Military Spouse Rank Chart
That will teach ISIS

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Now euro politicians are holding us back like in former Yugoslav wars (when US and UK/NATO finally ended killing) peace, peace, negotiate, understand their culture and religion and traditions, and never mind rape, torture and mass murder going on.... european welfare state supported fighters of ISIS can go there freely and claim social benefits from europe, transfer the money and buy more bullets.

Go for it kid. Something needs to be done about this high unemployment.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

How to deal with ISIS. Freeze the assets, eliminate the leaders, ignore euro politicians.

Now euro politicians are holding us back like in former Yugoslav wars (when US and UK/NATO finally ended killing)

Who is the us you refer to?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I seem to notice

if you stopped "seeming to notice" and actually made an effort to find out you'd find that you're talking rubbish.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I seem to notice Germany never helps in any difficult situations

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

the government is lame duck every time there is some crisis

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

You take benefit of EUR but accept no responsibility.

You really do talk shit . . .

With a contingent of 5,350 soldiers and policemen, Germany is one of the main contributors of troops to coalition operations in Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...in_Afghanistan

All in all, over the years more than 100,000 German soldiers and civilians have contributed to the efforts aiming at the stabilization and reconstruction of Afghanistan.
With currently up to 5,350 troops, Germany is the third largest troop contributor. The German Bundestag voted on January 28 to extend the troop’s mandate with a sound majority.

With $1.6 billion spent and an additional $2.8 billion pledged through 2013, Germany is the third largest bilateral donor of foreign assistance. In addition, Germany contributes some 20 percent to the EU assistance to Afghanistan totalling over $2.5 billion.
Germany has been NATO’s lead nation for the stabilization of Afghanistan’s northern region since 2006.
Germany was the first country to leave Kabul to establish a Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT).

German Missions in the United States - Engagement in Afghanistan

Every time you post you write incoherent and false crap . . . (exception being your last post on the Greek thread)

It's so easy to disprove your nonsense . . . why not make it a bit tougher for everyone else and actually do some research

As for your dodgy Yugoslav past - how many tens of thousands of your countrymen worked and lived in Germany for decades - still do . . .to support themselves and their families in the pigsty you call home?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

if you stopped "seeming to notice" and actually made an effort to find out you'd find that you're talking rubbish.

Please explain what I was said was incorrect, dont just throw one-liner "you're talking rubbish" - that would improve quality of conversation.

Germany helps in the easy part, policing the roads in safe areas etc. They are not involved in hardcore battle like US and UK forces. Which is the important thing. Where there are casualties. Body bags shipped back to home.

About the cost... Whatever they say in Bundestag, it mostly covers their overpriced helmets and BMW SUV's etc. Germany should just hand over the same money to NATO for more efficient use.

Whatever good Germans do in Afganishtan deserves applause. But the fact is that they are not facing the enemy on the front line, like US/UK/AUS etc do.

I have noticed you have some fetish with passports and Yugoslavia. Stop shooting that stuff into your eyeballs. Just 30 min ago you posted incoherent off-topic post in another thread to me citing my same sentence several times without any comment. What was that about? Never mind, I don't care.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I seem to notice Germany never helps in any difficult situations

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

the government is lame duck every time there is some crisis

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

You take benefit of EUR but accept no responsibility.

You really do talk shit . . .

With a contingent of 5,350 soldiers and policemen, Germany is one of the main contributors of troops to coalition operations in Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...in_Afghanistan

All in all, over the years more than 100,000 German soldiers and civilians have contributed to the efforts aiming at the stabilization and reconstruction of Afghanistan.
With currently up to 5,350 troops, Germany is the third largest troop contributor. The German Bundestag voted on January 28 to extend the troop’s mandate with a sound majority.

With $1.6 billion spent and an additional $2.8 billion pledged through 2013, Germany is the third largest bilateral donor of foreign assistance. In addition, Germany contributes some 20 percent to the EU assistance to Afghanistan totalling over $2.5 billion.
Germany has been NATO’s lead nation for the stabilization of Afghanistan’s northern region since 2006.
Germany was the first country to leave Kabul to establish a Provincial Reconstruction Team (PRT).

German Missions in the United States - Engagement in Afghanistan

Every time you post you write incoherent and false crap . . . (exception being your last post on the Greek thread)

It's so easy to disprove your nonsense . . . why not make it a bit tougher for everyone else and actually do some research

As for your dodgy Yugoslav past - how many tens of thousands of your countrymen worked and lived in Germany for decades - still do . . .to support themselves and their families in the pigsty you call home?

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

How to deal with ISIS. Freeze the assets, eliminate the leaders, ignore euro politicians.

Now euro politicians are holding us back like in former Yugoslav wars (when US and UK/NATO finally ended killing)

Who is the us you refer to?

US/UK/NATO.

EH?

NATO countries.

Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm

What you want to tell with that list?

In real world, NATO is about US and UK military power with smaller local strong supporters, that as a group are of course very important.

But only US and UK have full spectrum capability to operate quickly in crisis areas around the world. For example, when France went to protect their uranium supplies in Mali, they had to beg for UK and US to help take their forces there. Without US/UK they would have had to fly cattle class to nearest airport first. Then take taxi

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

How to deal with ISIS. Freeze the assets, eliminate the leaders, ignore euro politicians.

Now euro politicians are holding us back like in former Yugoslav wars (when US and UK/NATO finally ended killing)

Who is the us you refer to?

US/UK/NATO.

EH?

NATO countries.

Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/nato_countries.htm

Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from bombing IS?
Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from putting 'boots on the ground' in Iraq or Syria?

Answer: No.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by DrB0b

if you stopped "seeming to notice" and actually made an effort to find out you'd find that you're talking rubbish.

Please explain what I was said was incorrect, dont just throw one-liner "you're talking rubbish" - that would improve quality of conversation.

We're not having a conversation. If you were to become better informed, something only you can do for yourself, then we might have one.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from bombing IS?
Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from putting 'boots on the ground' in Iraq or Syria?

Answer: No.

Answer: Yes

For operation like this you need full support of the international community. Some euro countries are definitely blocking the due process.

Euros are the problem - countries in affected region are ready for action, including Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt... They are already operating in full co-op with US and UK and many NATO countries.

Arab nations united in fury against Isis but divided on strategy | World news | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

I seem to notice Germany never helps in any difficult situations, only sells arms to every side.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Germany helps in the easy part

But, but, but you just said they don't help at all . . . and that was the backbone of another one of your anti-German rants.

You are shown to be wrong . . . again.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from bombing IS?
Is Europe stopping the USA or UK from putting 'boots on the ground' in Iraq or Syria?

Answer: No.

Answer: Yes

For operation like this you need full support of the international community. Some euro countries are definitely blocking the due process.

Euros are the problem - countries in affected region are ready for action, including Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt... They are already operating in full co-op with US and UK and many NATO countries.

Arab nations united in fury against Isis but divided on strategy | World news | The Guardian

What?
The USA and the UK ARE bombing Iraq and the USA IS bombing Syria. No one is stopping them.
As for boots on the ground, domestic politics (in the USA and the UK) is the main impedance to that process at the moment. As far as I know, neither the USA nor the UK has suggested to anybody nor said that they want to put boots on the ground in Syria and they have not asked at the UN to do so.

And what has that Guardian article from February got to do with your claim that European countries are "blocking the due process"? Zilch.