The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[Storekeeper]

You honestly think the cops kill innocent unarmed civilians on the regular?

No, sometimes a minor traffic violation or something really egregious like selling cigarettes on the sidewalk without a license justifies death by cop.

I remember what you're referring to SK about the cigarettes. NYCPD illegal choke hold that lead to death.

"I can't breathe."

Yeah, killing this white Australian lady is getting a little traction but nobody remembers the black lady killed last month in Seattle inside her own apartment in front of her kids. All she did was call the police to report a burglary.

[harrybarracuda]

What was he doing in her pyjamas?

She was at home in them when she called 911.

Came out to talk to the police when they arrived.

He was taking the piss out of my poor phrasing you dim fucker.

[Cold Pizza]

You honestly think the cops kill innocent unarmed civilians on the regular?

No, sometimes a minor traffic violation or something really egregious like selling cigarettes on the sidewalk without a license justifies death by cop.

I remember what you're referring to SK about the cigarettes. NYCPD illegal choke hold that lead to death.

"I can't breathe."

Yeah, killing this white Australian lady is getting a little traction but nobody remembers the black lady killed last month in Seattle inside her own apartment in front of her kids. All she did was call the police to report a burglary.

No, with due respect, SK.

She had a previously documented history of threatening police with large knives and she had a history of mental illness.

She called the police - again.

Then inside the house she pointed two knives at them with both hands at close range and they shot her.

Justified shooting 100%.


A very dangerous situation.

[AntRobertson]

No, sometimes there was a minor traffic violation or something really egregious like selling cigarettes on the sidewalk without a license.

You don't get shot for those either.

Well you're kinda half-right, you only get choked to death for selling cigarettes. Traffic violations however:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/u...fic-stops.html

Pulled over 49 times in 13 years, 'Driving Whilst Black' maybe. Anyways it's surprising it took him that long to be shot.

The only thing that would've stopped it is if a good guy was carrying a legally registered gun... Oh wait.

And hold the phone... You get choked to death for cigarettes but shot for selling music:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2700548

Maybe phones too??

[Storekeeper]

You honestly think the cops kill innocent unarmed civilians on the regular?

No, sometimes a minor traffic violation or something really egregious like selling cigarettes on the sidewalk without a license justifies death by cop.

I remember what you're referring to SK about the cigarettes. NYCPD illegal choke hold that lead to death.

"I can't breathe."

Yeah, killing this white Australian lady is getting a little traction but nobody remembers the black lady killed last month in Seattle inside her own apartment in front of her kids. All she did was call the police to report a burglary.

No, with due respect, SK.

She had a previously documented history of threatening police with large knives and she had a history of mental illness.

She called the police - again.

Then inside the house she pointed two knives at them with both hands at close range and they shot her.

Justified shooting 100%.


A very dangerous situation.

Reminds me of a video floating around in the last couple weeks of a Thai guy holding and pointing a knife at a police officer ... why the cop didn't just pull out his gun and pop a cap in his arse instead of talking him down is just a simple example of dereliction of duty. Should have taken the shot.

[harrybarracuda]

If he'd been American he would have popped a cap in that chap's bottom.

[blue]

[fred flintstone]

Minnesota cops.....


Bodycam video shows new angle on Minnesota cop shooting dogs

Newly released body camera video shows a Minneapolis police officer shooting two dogs at a home where he was responding to a burglar alarm, then apologizing to a resident of the home afterward.

The video released Thursday was a new view of a July 8 incident in which the homeowner questioned why the officer shot her dogs. The homeowner, Jennifer LeMay, earlier posted surveillance video from her own security camera that she said showed the dogs were not a threat.

Both dogs survived but need extensive care. The actions of the officer, Michael Mays, are being investigated by the department.

LeMay's attorney, Mike Padden, obtained the body-camera video and released it. He questioned Mays' initial account that the dogs "charged" at the officer.

It shows Mays entering the backyard and a dog — Ciroc — running toward him, tail wagging. The dog stops as Mays backs away, then walks toward the officer, tail still wagging, before Mays fires. The second dog, Rocko, then runs at Mays and is shot.

Mays is heard saying, "I dispatched both of them." He also apologizes to LeMay's daughter.

"Hey, I'm gonna sit there and say sorry about this," Mays says. "I don't like shooting no dogs. I love dogs, so ... it's unfortunate. Are they A-OK?"

Chief Janee Harteau earlier promised to launch mandatory training for officers in handling dog encounters. She also said the department would help with veterinary bills for LeMay's dogs

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/b...-dogs-48771645

[tomcat]

Chief Janee Harteau earlier promised to launch mandatory training for officers in handling dog encounters

handling people encounters, however, will take more time: no trainers who speak Somali...

[harrybarracuda]

Chief Janee Harteau earlier promised to launch mandatory training for officers in handling dog encounters

handling people encounters, however, will take more time: no trainers who speak Somali...

Chief Janee Harteau has fallen on her sword at the behest of the mayor.

[fred flintstone]

Signs Mocking Police Appear in Minneapolis After Fatal Shooting of Australian Woman



Signs Mocking Police Appear in Minneapolis After Fatal Shooting of Australian Woman - NBC News

[Slick]

Minnesota cops.....


Bodycam video shows new angle on Minnesota cop shooting dogs

Newly released body camera video shows a Minneapolis police officer shooting two dogs at a home where he was responding to a burglar alarm, then apologizing to a resident of the home afterward.

The video released Thursday was a new view of a July 8 incident in which the homeowner questioned why the officer shot her dogs. The homeowner, Jennifer LeMay, earlier posted surveillance video from her own security camera that she said showed the dogs were not a threat.

Both dogs survived but need extensive care. The actions of the officer, Michael Mays, are being investigated by the department.

LeMay's attorney, Mike Padden, obtained the body-camera video and released it. He questioned Mays' initial account that the dogs "charged" at the officer.

It shows Mays entering the backyard and a dog — Ciroc — running toward him, tail wagging. The dog stops as Mays backs away, then walks toward the officer, tail still wagging, before Mays fires. The second dog, Rocko, then runs at Mays and is shot.

Mays is heard saying, "I dispatched both of them." He also apologizes to LeMay's daughter.

"Hey, I'm gonna sit there and say sorry about this," Mays says. "I don't like shooting no dogs. I love dogs, so ... it's unfortunate. Are they A-OK?"

Chief Janee Harteau earlier promised to launch mandatory training for officers in handling dog encounters. She also said the department would help with veterinary bills for LeMay's dogs

Bodycam video shows new angle on Minnesota cop shooting dogs - ABC News

Now this one pisses me off more than if it was a human.

And at the end: they will help with vet bills.

Take their badge and lock them up.

[SKkin]

Signs Mocking Police Appear in Minneapolis After Fatal Shooting of Australian Woman

All those signs need now are a few bullet holes...

[AntRobertson]

Police shot and killed a man while trying to serve a warrant - at the wrong house - NZ Herald

'Cos 'Murica! 'Cos fuck yeah! 'Cos guns!

[fred flintstone]

Makes no sense......

A police officer responding to a rollover car crash in an Indianapolis suburb on Thursday afternoon was fatally shot by a person in the wrecked car, the authorities said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/u...er-killed.html

[Slick]

Video: Las Vegas police shoot suspect 19 times, apply tourniquets to stop bleeding

Camera images show blood spurting from William Alfredo Chafoya's wounds as officers race to apply tourniquetsYesterday at 12:12 AM
By Ricardo Torres-Cortez
Las Vegas Sun

LAS VEGAS — In the aftermath of a gunfight between Metro Police and a man fleeing from them on Monday, in which 31 rounds were fired in quick succession, the suspect lay on the ground, bleeding profusely and pleading with officers: “Sir, I’m dying … oh my God … sir, please.”

William Alfredo Chafoya, who police say fired five of the shots, was struck 19 times, and investigators were working to determine how many were direct hits or ricochet impacts, said Clark County Assistant Sheriff Todd Fasulo, who conducted a briefing and showed graphic crime-scene images.

Chafoya, 37, survived the shooting, as did a second suspect, Ashley Olivetti, 31, who was struck once in the wrist by police gunfire, Fasulo said. Neither officer was injured.

On Thursday, the suspects remained in police custody and in stable condition at University Medical Center. They were booked in absentia at the Clark County Detention Center on various weapons-related charges.

Police were dispatched about 5:05 p.m. to a residence on Welsh Circle in the northwest valley to conduct surveillance on a maroon Honda linked to a Sunday drive-by shooting, in which a bicyclist was shot in the calf, Fasulo said.

Sometime later, Chafoya, who matched the shooter’s description, and Olivetti entered the stolen car and officers tried to pull them over, but Chafoya ignored the lights and sirens and kept driving, Fasulo said.

The chase, which was approved by Metro leadership and tracked from a police helicopter, took the suspects from the west to the east valley, across area commands and jurisdictions, into North Las Vegas on Goldfield Street, where Olivetti lived, Fasulo said.

It's now 7:19 p.m. and the suspects get out, the car rolls forward and only stops when it crashes into a parked car. The man and woman run toward the house, but Officers Tyler Hebb, a 35-year-old field trainer, and 22-year-old Brandon Foster, who was being trained, trail closely behind.

Chafoya fires a round with his stolen gun into the air then a continuous volley of pops breaks out, and "get on the ground!" commands go ignored until they fall wounded.

Fasulo said Chafoya fired four rounds in the officers' direction, two of which struck a house. Olivetti was wounded when she ran into the gun battle, and a resident in the front yard where the shootout took place was uninjured, he added.

Quickly after, officers tend to the injured suspects. Chafoya wails in pain, "Sir, I'm dying. Sir, I'm dying!" A woman's screams can be heard in the background.

Camera images show blood spurting from Chafoya's wounds as officers race to apply tourniquets, not taking the time to protect their hands with rubber gloves.

“I will tell you that that personal decision by that officer to not utilize gloves is stellar," Fasulo said. "The fact that he was willing to jeopardize his own safety with blood-borne pathogens to save that man’s life by putting a tourniquet on his leg was a very good decision that day.”

About this being the 13th Metro officer-involved shooting this year when there were only six during the same time last year, Fasulo speaks about suspects, such as Chafoya, who are armed and “willing to use violence on our officers."

"This is a concern for the LVMPD and the community," Fasulo said.

The number may reflect the "underlying culture" in criminal elements in which suspects think they can get away with crime in this community, he adds.

“When it comes to violent crime in this community, we’re not fooling around," Fasulo said in a message to armed and dangerous suspects. "Our officers are entrusted and paid to do relentless follow-ups on people who prey upon innocent people or on officers. And if you engage in that behavior we will hunt you down and put you in jail. So, you better think twice the next time you think about using some violence toward another innocent person, or against one of our officers.”

Chafoya, who has an extensive criminal record in Nevada and California dating back to 2004, was booked on two counts of assault on a protected person and one count each of possession of a gun with an altered or removed serial number, and disobeying peace officers and endangering other persons or property, jail logs show.

In connection to Sunday's shooting, he's facing one count each of attempted murder, battery with a deadly weapon, and discharging a gun from a vehicle, logs show.

Olivetti, who also has a criminal history in California, was booked on two counts of possession of a firearm by a prohibited person, and one count each of possessing a weapon with a removed serial number and possession of stolen property.

https://www.policeone.com/officer-sh...stop-bleeding/

LVMPD Shoots Man After He Fires At Police

[Klondyke]

No connections with islamists, I pressume...

[Slick]

Nope but the stupid ass thug sprung a serious fucking leak, likely the femoral, and dropped quite a bit of the red stuff in about 15 seconds.

Too bad the cop saved his stupid ass and he survived.

[raycarey]

Quickly after, officers tend to the injured suspects.

sooo....they did their jobs.

good for them.

dropped quite a bit of the red stuff

but....

[Slick]

They didn't just "do their jobs" they went in gloveless and exposed themselves to all kinds of pathogens. Idiot would have likely died if they didn't. Dude could barely get the tourniquet on the guy was bleeding so bad.

[raycarey]

the guy was leaking so bad

'the red stuff', right?

[fred flintstone]

Serious Q: What's the longest span of time the US has gone without a gun death in the last 30 years?

[Cold Pizza]

Post #2016:

Seriously, better to let the guy who was shooting at them die.

It's better for the community and a lot cheaper.

[tomcat]

What's the longest span of time the US has gone without a gun death in the last 30 years?

there's probably no authoritative source for that info as the NRA tends to force the gov't to suppress such figures...

[raycarey]

in 2013, there were ~33,600 deaths by guns...or one every 15 minutes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_vi..._United_States


and that's deaths...not injuries.