Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Amusing Comments from Vlad #5,216

Kremlin - permanent U.S. military presence in Poland bad for security







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Maybe Poland wants to protect itself against you invading it and annexing a chunk, like you did in Ukraine, eh Vlad?

Maybe? They left in good fate in 1990 I seen them leaving Europe with my own eyes! As it was and agreed by Regan and Gorbacheve! NATO will not "EXPEND" the territory! How close to Russia they are now? Do you have a clue at all? .....Idiot!!!!!

Originally Posted by global

Maybe? They left in good fate in 1990 I seen them leaving Europe with my own eyes! As it was and agreed by Regan and Gorbacheve! NATO will not "EXPEND" the territory! How close to Russia they are now? Do you have a clue at all? .....Idiot!!!!!

I don't even know where to start. Do we have a new contender for forum imbecile?

it's ok harry, nobody is going to take your place

Originally Posted by global

Maybe? They left in good fate in 1990

Anybody would ever dream of it so?
And anybody has ever seen an army to voluntarily leave like that? (oh yes, just one, but not leaving in a good fate, please no names here)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Anybody would ever dream of it so?
And anybody has ever seen an army to voluntarily leave like that? (oh yes, just one, but not leaving in a good fate, please no names here)

It was agreement (which was not kept by NATO) as USSR collapsed economically. I'm wondering how long the US will keep up with their spending on ARMS and supporting NATO? Who is going to pay for it? I was driving through Europe at that time from Germany, Austria, Hungary and so forth the US army was going into west of Hungary (moving into old Russian basses) and the Russians still in the East part of Hungary. I heard that later from people. That tells you something how much the US cared about the agreement. Yes of course people were happy the Russians left after a half century but they got to know very fast there is no difference. Then they started bombing Serbia from (Hungary old Russians basses) a few years latter it was very convenient. Further cutting up Yugoslavia for smaller nations instead of helping with a dispute. Just like what you have now in Ukraine they wanted to change government there too and Crimea voted to become Russia which was a shock (still is)to the NATO. They wanted a new base there too. Surround Russia from the East, Korea, North, Estonia, Letvia (old Russia) and other countries from the west all old Warsaw pact nations (Romania, Bulgaria, Poland and so forth too many to list. Would you feel safe if you were Russian? What would you do when they push you back into a corner? I think Russia still kept its cool if this would happen to the US it would be a WAR already. That's just my two cent worth take it as it is. If anybody will start a WAR that will be NATO. The aggressor is not Russia.

Another anti-Putin journalist shot dead: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12061236

Here's another pic of a shirtless Putin on a horse to distract from what is surely just a coincidence:

Originally Posted by global

The aggressor is not Russia.

You little comedian you

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Another anti-Putin journalist shot dead: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12061236

Arkady Babchenko, 41, was found by his wife in a pool of blood at their Kiev apartment today. He had been shot in the back

Yes, Putin all over.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, Putin all over.

With Skripals now it screeches (skripalling in Russian), therefore there has to be another case (and another diplomats expelled)...

Originally Posted by global

Surround Russia from the East, Korea, North, Estonia, Letvia (old Russia) and other countries from the west all old Warsaw pact nations (Romania, Bulgaria, Poland and so forth too many to list. Would you feel safe if you were Russian?

Three major military exercises to be staged in Latvia through summerSaber Strike, Swift Response, and Namejs military exercises are planned this summer across the country, involving allied troops and Latvia's armed forces, the Defense Ministry told the press May 16.

The exercises involve troops from 18 allied NATO countries, with the Namejs exercises slated for late summer singled out as a massive test of Latvia's army, as well as institutions under Interior Ministry control.

Over the course of the manoeuvres, Latvia's military will move across the terrain outside conventional military zones like the Ādaži headquarters, said Gunārs Grikmanis, lieutenant colonel at the Latvian National Armed Forces.

The US-led exercise takes place June 3 to 15 across the Baltic states and Poland. It involves more than 3,000 troops from 13 countries. As part of Saber Strike, troops will train for urban warfare at the former military town of Skrunda. Latvia's annual Summer Shield exercises are now incorporated into Saber Strike.

The exercises will coincide with Swift Response 2018 and will encompass armed forces of every field, said Grikmanis.

"We'll be shooting guns of all calibers and using all transport, large and small," he said. The actual shooting will be limited to the Ādaži base.

Saber Strike 2018 will coincide with a number of exercises, including Lithuania's Thunder Storm and NATO's Baltops.



https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/d...ummer.a278566/

Army Military Police, Engineers Prepare for Exercise Saber Strike 2018
GRAFENWOEHR, Germany -- may 29, 2018

Soldiers with the 18th Military Police Brigade and the 15th Engineer Battalion are here preparing to participate in Saber Strike 2018, a multinational exercise.

The exercise will be held June 3-15 at training areas in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, facilitates cooperation and enhances the NATO alliance. This year’s exercise anticipates 18,000 participants from 19 countries.

The 18th Military Police Brigade will be supporting maneuver forces such as the 2nd Cavalry Regiment with movement support and area security. Operations range from joint convoy security with support from allied and partner forces to facilitating river crossings.

The brigade will consist of a military police battalion and an engineer battalion as well as soldiers from U.S. Army Correctional Activity Europe, who have been setting the stage for the exercise. National Guard units from Puerto Rico, Michigan and Indiana will join the brigade, along with partners and allies from seven countries, including the United Kingdom, Poland, Germany and Macedonia.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Article...r-strike-2018/

This year’s exercise anticipates 18,000 participants from 19 countries.

And it is not nice that the dangerous Mr. Putin provokes NATO with his army concentrated around his border at Latvia...

Seems Vlad is desperate to get his hands on another critic - presumably to give him a nice cup of tea. Probably worried about losing all that money he's had people stashing away for him.

Financier Bill Browder, a high-profile critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has been briefly arrested in Spain on a Russian arrest warrant.
After an hour in custody he was released because the warrant was no longer valid, Spanish police said.


Mr Browder had earlier tweeted that he had been arrested on a Russian Interpol arrest warrant.

Interpol rejected the claim, saying: "There is not, and never has been, a Red Notice for Mr Bill Browder."

The agency said in a statement: "Mr Browder is not wanted via Interpol channels."

But there were multiple accounts about how the confusion arose, and why Mr Browder was detained.

A police spokesman told AFP: "An arrest warrant has a date limit and when that expires, it must be deleted from the computer programme and in this case Interpol hadn't deleted it."


But the US-born financier, who is a British citizen, tweeted that a new notice had been issued.

"Spanish National Police just released me after Interpol General Secretary in Lyon advised them not to honor the new Russian Interpol Red Notice," he said. "This is the sixth time that Russia has abused Interpol in my case."

Interpol had previously refused to enforce a 2013 warrant for the investor, deeming it "predominantly political in nature".


Mr Browder is widely credited with the creation of the Magnitsky Act - a 2012 range of sanctions from the United States on top Russian officials accused of corruption.

The act was named after his former lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky, who uncovered an alleged tax fraud in Moscow - and died in a Russian prison in 2009.

Since then, Mr Browder has campaigned for investigations into the alleged fraud.

He was put on trial in absentia in 2013 for tax evasion - in the same trial where the deceased Magnitsky faced charges, which was labelled "absurd" by observers.

Mr Browder was once one of the biggest foreign investors in Russia, controlling Hermitage Capital Management.

Russian prosecutors accused him of creating a firm for tax fraud purposes. Mr Browder has always said that the charges against him are politically motivated.

British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson said he spoke to Mr Browder and was "very glad that he has now been released".

"Moscow should concentrate on bringing those responsible for the murder of #Magnitsky to justice," he tweeted.

Mr Browder was in Madrid to give evidence to a Spanish prosecutor about money from the Magnitsky case that was moved to Spain.

He said the arrest while on such a trip was ironic, but added: "Now that I'm released my mission carries on."

Putin critic Bill Browder freed after brief arrest in Spain - BBC News

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, Putin all over.

But wait..... too convincing!

In a stunning twist, a well-known Russian journalist who Ukrainian authorities said was shot and killed in the capital of Kiev Tuesday showed up alive Wednesday, with Ukrainian security services saying they faked his death.

Arkady Babchenko, a celebrated war reporter who fled his home country last year amid a campaign of intimidation, was said to have been killed at his his apartment building in Kiev he appeared at a press conference Wednesday.
Authorities said they pretended Babchenko was dead in order to stop a Russian plot to kill him. Babchenko is a ferocious critic of the Kremlin.
Ukrainian police said Tuesday that his wife had found him Tuesday night in his apartment building’s stairwell covered in blood after being shot repeatedly in the back, and that she had called an ambulance but he died before reaching the hospital.


Arkady Babchenko, a celebrated war reporter who fled his home country last year amid a campaign of intimidation, was said to have been killed at his his apartment building in Kiev he appeared at a press conference Wednesday.
Authorities said they pretended Babchenko was dead in order to stop a Russian plot to kill him. Babchenko is a ferocious critic of the Kremlin.

https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=55526893

New headline:

"Putins Assassins Foiled!".

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, Putin all over.

you fooking retard, it was staged by the Ukrainian authority

and you fell for it like a fresh tourist out in his first night in Nana,

bet you saw those "forensic" evidence of the crime too, you frigging gullible amateur

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Arkady Babchenko, a celebrated war reporter who fled his home country last year amid a campaign of intimidation, was said to have been killed at his his apartment building in Kiev he appeared at a press conference Wednesday.

Please cancel all the wreath purchasing for the dead journalist, better to send him some food, he is alive and the Ukraine food shops are not very well supplied.

Boris, please cancel the flight to Kiev, no funeral, just a press conference with him.

Nikki, no need to call a urgent UN SC meeting, better concentrate again on - you know what...

Vladimir, no worry for your diplomats decimation, just wait and see what will happen, there will be another case, sure...



Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko (R), who was reported murdered in the Ukrainian capital on May 29, Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko (C) and head of the state security service (SBU) Vasily Gritsak attend a news briefing in Kiev, Ukraine May 30, 2018. © Valentyn Ogirenko / Reuters

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/428284-babc...msm-kiev-lies/

Financier Bill Browder, a high-profile critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has been briefly arrested in Spain on a Russian arrest warrant.
After an hour in custody he was released because the warrant was no longer valid, Spanish police said.

So the Spanish police arrest a guy on an invalid arrest warrant? Someone didn't check the paperwork before hand did they? How embarrassing.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But wait..... too convincing!




New headline:

"Putins Assassins Foiled!".

Who is laughing now you cannot be helped not even with heavy medication.

But all things being equal THE LORD is a cunning bastard. So 'arry keeps some on their toes.

Preident Pution arranges all these events, a reporter back from the dead in Kiev, Yuilia and her pa back from the dead in Salisbury, Palestinian children shot in Gaza, wars in Syria, Yemen, jets shot down in Ukraine, the partition of Sudan and probably the jet shot down in the Indian Ocean ( now the "evidence" has been found of Russian handiwork)

All so the Russian people can pick themselves up and take back their country. Which of course makes available more to skim for his personal gold stack.

All that's missing is the UN to hold a vote on making him The Undisputed Cage Fighter Champion of the World.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Whatever gets you going.

*WHOOSH*

Originally Posted by OhOh

All so the Russian people can pick themselves up and take back their country. Which of course makes available more to skim for his personal gold stack.

Well it's not the Russian people trying to rebuild the USSR, but you are probably on the right track with your feelings.

Russia-bashing must stop, says Jean-Claude Juncker
European commission president reveals dismay over state of EU-Russia relations




Jean-Claude Juncker has called for an end to “Russia-bashing” two months after scores of Moscow’s diplomats across the EU were expelled in response to the use of a nerve agent in the UK.

The president of the European commission said he believed it was time to renew ties with Vladimir Putin’s country, given its size and importance.

“I do think we have to reconnect with Russia,” Juncker told an audience in Brussels. “I am not very happy with the state of our relations. We will never accept what Russia did with Crimea or eastern Ukraine. But nevertheless, we have to have in mind that the entire territory of the European Union is about 5.5m sq km. Russia [is] 70.5m [sq km].


Putin more dangerous weak​​ than strong, says top UK military figure
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“So we have to come back to, I wouldn’t say normal relations with Russia, but there are so many areas, so many domains, where we can cooperate in a better way with research and innovation and others. Not forgetting what our differences and divergences are. But this Russia-bashing has to be brought to an end.”

The comments, made during a thinktank event on EU reform, will raise eyebrows in the UK. Theresa May, the prime minister, campaigned for a strong response to the attempted murder of the former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in Salisbury in March.

Last week the Dutch prime minister, Mark Rutte, said he was determined to hold the Kremlin to account after the Netherlands and Australia formally accused Russia of playing a role in the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine in 2014.

Juncker’s intervention will also dismay some in Washington. The US administration has been lobbying the EU to apply tougher sanctions on Russia over Kremlin attempts to meddle in western democracies.

Countermeasures applied by the EU against Russia after the 2014 illegal annexation of Crimea were resisted by some member states, and have failed to keep up with those of the US. In Italy, the Five Star Movement and the League, the leading populist parties, want to lift the EU’s sanctions on Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...claude-juncker

Could it happen to a POTUS and how he would react?

Top quotes from Putin’s Austrian interview – so tense he had to resort to German to make his point
5 May 2018

Vladimir Putin’s extensive chat with Austrian TV got so heated that he had to switch to German to ask the interviewer not to interrupt.Putin is meeting Austrian Chancellor Sebastian Kurz and Vice-Chancellor Heinz-Christian Strache on Tuesday. The visit to Vienna will be his first trip abroad since his inauguration for the second consecutive term – and the fourth in total – in March. Before arriving in the Austrian capital, Putin spoke to Armin Wolf from the state ORF channel. The conversation quickly became tense, with hardball questions and straightforward answers.

Wolf interrupted Putin several times, prompting the Russian leader to ask him to “be patient,” before eventually switching to Wolf’s mother tongue. “Seien Sie so nett, lassen Sie mich etwas sagen (Please be so kind as to let me say something),” he said in German, a language he speaks fluently.

‘Only 2-way road for Korea’
Putin finds the prospect of a full-scale military conflict with Pyongyang especially “dreadful” since North Korea is Russia’s immediate neighbor, and some Korean nuclear test sites are situated near the Russian border. Although Russia “pins great hopes on the personal meeting between [US] President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un,” the path to the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula is a “two-way road,” Putin explained. “If the North Korean leader is backing up his intentions with practical actions, for example, giving up new tests of ballistic missiles, new nuclear tests, the other side should reciprocate in a tangible manner,” he said, calling regular US military drills in the area “counterproductive.”

‘Russia blocked from MH17 probe’
Putin criticized the ongoing international investigation into flight MH17, which was downed in Ukraine in 2014. He said Russian experts “have been denied access to the investigation,” while Russian arguments are “not taken into consideration,” and nobody on the investigation team “is interested in hearing us out.” Ukraine, on the other hand, being a “party interested in the results,” has been given access to the probe, Putin added.

‘Crimea never coming back’
Crimea became one of the most contentious issues during the talk. Responding to a question about what should happen in order for Russia to hand the region over to Ukraine, the president firmly stated: “There are no such conditions and there can never be.” Crimea opted to rejoin Russia in 2014 after a popular vote showed overwhelming support for the move. Putin stressed that the referendum was arranged after an “unconstitutional armed coup” in Ukraine’s capital Kiev, and it was the Crimeans themselves who ultimately decided their own fate. “Crimea gained independence through the free will of the Crimeans, expressed in an open referendum, not as a result of an invasion by Russian forces,” he stated.

‘Ask State Dept about Soros’
Moscow “has nothing to do” with the so-called internet “troll farms” and it is ridiculous how Western media claims that a single Russian businessman, Yevgeny Prigozhin, managed to influence election results in the US, Putin said. He added that, while he is familiar with Prigozhin personally, he’s unaware of his activities online.

The president then hit back, bringing up the controversial American-Hungarian billionaire George Soros, who has supported numerous NGOs in different countries. “There are rumors circulating now that Mr Soros is planning to make the euro highly volatile. Experts are already discussing this. Ask the [US] State Department why he is doing this,” Putin said. “The State Department will say that it has nothing to do with them – rather it is Mr Soros’ private affair.”

‘Tsar? Not true’
Presenter Armin Wolf noted that Putin has been either president or prime minister since 2000, and some are calling him a “tsar” of Russia. Putin responded that comparing him to a royal figure is “false and completely detached from reality.” He stressed that he governs strictly in accordance with the Russian constitution.

“International observers had no serious criticism as to how the election was organized or regarding the election results,” Putin said of his most recent election victory. “Therefore, there is no doubt that democracy has taken hold in Russia.”

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