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I like Vladimir's new sunnies.
Looks like Donald Trump's baseball hat in the reflection.
Shut up looper you fvcking idiot.
Are you not a trump fan Dapper?
Vladimir thinks the Donald is a shoe-in.
Neverna, who have dared to go where many do not - presenting logic into the discussion on TeakDoor. For that I sincerely salute you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
The only problem is the current relevance of the data you presented above.
Read the fine print.
The map is based on a 1989 population estimate based on census data from 1981 ; therefore , today's facts might vary significantly from the census data taken 34 years ago.
What are your thoughts ?
I'm a huge Vlad fan. I think he has "one upped" the Trump-Meister. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Have you seen the 31-year-old former Olympic gymnast that will become his next wife ? Yowza , I believe she has given birth to his child. (Mumms the word.)
Yes indeed. The sly old dog kept that hidden under his bushell for as long as he could.
Lyudmilla got the heave-ho :(
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They say Vlad walks funny since he used to be a KGB gun-slinger but actually he is trying to conceal the boner he is packing for his young gymnast Miss Kabayeva
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Wallingford.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
:rolleyes: Nice, your avatar looked more early 20's Ballard...or earlier Sin City / White Ctr...
Glad to read Hawks into playoffs.
Allegedly the LORD's remark on an Ameristan presidential candidate. Are you suggesting the LORD is lying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
"“He is a very flamboyant man, very talented, no doubt about that... He is the absolute leader of the presidential race, as we see it today. He says that he wants to move to another level of relations, to a deeper level of relations with Russia. How can we not welcome that? Of course we welcome it,” Putin said."
Polling graphs can of course lie, but the link to Real Clear data suggests, to me, that Mr Trump is winning. What data do you use suggesting otherwise?
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination
Is that in Oxfordshire England?Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
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Originally Posted by PeeCoffeeNeverna, who have dared to go where many do not - presenting logic into the discussion on TeakDoor. For that I sincerely salute you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
The only problem is the current relevance of the data you presented above.
Read the fine print.
The map is based on a 1989 population estimate based on census data from 1981 ; therefore , today's facts might vary significantly from the census data taken 34 years ago.
What are your thoughts ?
Good catch, Pee Coffee. I did not notice that, but I do suspect the desert is still pretty much desert (at least it was when I was there less that 20 years ago). Of course, I am sure much has changed in Syria in the last 4 years and I doubt accurate stats are available (but by all means surprise me :) )
Bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
No doubt vlad sees him for what he is.
The nomination, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
But as a Presidential candidate he would be an absolute disaster, and the GOP knows it.
Turkey, Saudi, USA are have allowed isis to thrive if not actively helped them. There are no effective 'moderate' fighters against Assad. None of these are conspiracy theories, they are facts.
http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/33180-wikileaks-reveals-how-the-us-aggressively-pu
rsued-regime-change-in-syria-igniting-a-bloodbath
Wikilraks cable showing that the CIA has been trying destabilise Syria since 2006, in fact they have been trying since the 1950s and partly why Assad over killed so many in a paranoid over reaction as it mirrored similar events instigated by the cia in the 1980s. The Syrian civil war is the result of a multi decade effort to destroy the regime.
Are you suggesting that Ameristan's hands are covered in Syrian and Iraqi civilian's blood and the attacks on European society by the terrorists are being caused by the Ameristan controlled terrorist agencies then?Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
A fellow ass pirate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dapper
Strategic or stupid. I don't know which, decisions meant that groups like isis are allowed to grow, I don't think western governments order terrorists to attack USA and Europe, but they certainly assisted and sometimes funded and armed groups like isis that carry out these attacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Is it bollocks, it is a direct result of the Arab spring in Tunisia and Assad's failure to realise he could not keep the lid on the bottle like his dad did when he murdered 30,000 men, women and children in Hama.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
It even started because some kids painted some Arab spring slogans they'd seen on TV from Tunisia, and the local police arrested and tortured them for it.
Which is not to say that interference from the GCC, the West and Russia hasn't exacerbated the problem, but just be clear: They did not start it.
More importantly Assad could have nipped it in the bud like Jordan and Tunisia did.
But unfortunately the acorn rarely falls far from the tree, and because his dad kept things quiet by massacring 30,000 people, he obviously thought that would work for him.
Yeah, got that fucking wrong didn't he.
When a whole country has seen a revolution work live on TV, you cannot keep the genie in the bottle.
It's only a matter of time for North Korea.
:)
From a leaked US-UK intelligence file
When do you think this was written, 2010? 2011? 2012? No, it was written in 1957.Quote:
"In order to facilitate the action of liberative [sic] forces... a special effort should be made to eliminate certain key individuals [and] to proceed with internal disturbances in Syria. CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor sabotage and coup de main [sic] incidents within Syria, working through contacts with individuals... a necessary degree of fear... frontier and [staged] border clashes [will] provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS should use... capabilities in both psychological and action fields to augment tension."
From Pol Pot to ISIS: The blood never dried
In 1982 there was the Hama insurrection by the muslim brotherhood, supported by the USA, Israel and west germany for many reasons, and it was probably this memory in mind that that Assad over-reacted and killed so many people.
You might be right that what happened in syria was something to do with the 'arab spring' or just as likely its just something we have been fed; but its without a doubt that western allied countries have been trying to topple assad and destabilise syria for decades and they have been supporting ISIS over the past few years.
Yes but 1957 Syria was a completely different animal. America was in the middle of McCarthyism (well not so much McCarthyism but the cold war) and doing their best to undermine communism at every turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Egypt and Syria both had major communist elements.
This has fuck all to do with the Assads, who never came to power until 1970.
Things got shaky again in the late '80s, what with the Beirut bombing, but Syria were useful to the US in '91.
What's happening now has fuck all to do with it.
Plus it doesn't serve Israel to have a bunch of Sunni looneys in charge of Syria, even if it does cut off supply lines to Hezbollah.
Still making it up as you go along Harry :rolleyes:
You're starting to make blue look clued up. :yup:
Why not? The syrian regime is hostile to Israel and aligned with Iran. Why should a weak sunni state tearing itself to pieces or descending into medieval barbarism be of any disadvantage to Israel? It would make a great excuse to make further land grabs in the name of 'security'Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaYes but 1957 Syria was a completely different animal. America was in the middle of McCarthyism (well not so much McCarthyism but the cold war) and doing their best to undermine communism at every turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Egypt and Syria both had major communist elements.
This has fuck all to do with the Assads, who never came to power until 1970.
Things got shaky again in the late '80s, what with the Beirut bombing, but Syria were useful to the US in '91.
What's happening now has fuck all to do with it.
Plus it doesn't serve Israel to have a bunch of Sunni looneys in charge of Syria, even if it does cut off supply lines to Hezbollah.
Its all mere coincidence then?
Dumas, "Top British Officials Confessed to Syria War Plans Two Years b | nsnbc international
This was also in the previous link. Perhaps he is lying, but the pieces do fit together rather well.Quote:
The former French Minister of Foreign Affairs appeared in aTV interview with the French TV Channel LPC, saying:“I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”.
In order for there to be a coincidence, at least two things have to coincide.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Israel had a de facto peace agreement with Israel; Syria have never made any serious attempt to reclaim the occupied Golan Heights. In fact Syria has been supplying water to the Golan Heights for decades.
You're correct in that right now Israel aren't too worried because Hezbollah's attention is on Syria .
What I'm talking is what might come later.
Had the moderates been in play early on, a stable and probably accessible, inclusive government would have been on the cards, but that train has long left the station.
But now realistically we're looking at a Muslim state that won't take long to descend into a hardline Sunni theocracy. They might then want their land back as a point of principle.
I don't actually see what you are implying the "bits" are, let alone how they fit together.Quote:
Dumas, "Top British Officials Confessed to Syria War Plans Two Years b | nsnbc international
This was also in the previous link. Perhaps he is lying, but the pieces do fit together rather well.Quote:
The former French Minister of Foreign Affairs appeared in aTV interview with the French TV Channel LPC, saying:“I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”.
And "preparing something in Syria" sounds to me like the sort of thing some Anglophobe might mutter to his mate while tapping his nose.
In actual fact, after reading this:
I call complete narcissistic bollocks.Quote:
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
Neo, you've already shown, by your wild claim that current oil demand exceeds supply, that you're out of your depth on grown up topics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Run long now, sonny, go and play outside.
:rolleyes:
The stuff about syria supplying water to the golan heights is nonsense. The golan heights supplies israel with water. The golan heights are essential to the prestige of the syrian regime; i really dont know where your ideas from, i think perhaps you are just making it up as you go along; so im not going to bite any more after this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaIn order for there to be a coincidence, at least two things have to coincide.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Israel had a de facto peace agreement with Israel; Syria have never made any serious attempt to reclaim the occupied Golan Heights. In fact Syria has been supplying water to the Golan Heights for decades.
You're correct in that right now Israel aren't too worried because Hezbollah's attention is on Syria .
What I'm talking is what might come later.
Had the moderates been in play early on, a stable and probably accessible, inclusive government would have been on the cards, but that train has long left the station.
But now realistically we're looking at a Muslim state that won't take long to descend into a hardline Sunni theocracy. They might then want their land back as a point of principle.
I don't actually see what you are implying the "bits" are, let alone how they fit together.Quote:
Dumas, "Top British Officials Confessed to Syria War Plans Two Years b | nsnbc international
This was also in the previous link. Perhaps he is lying, but the pieces do fit together rather well.Quote:
The former French Minister of Foreign Affairs appeared in aTV interview with the French TV Channel LPC, saying:“I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”.
And "preparing something in Syria" sounds to me like the sort of thing some Anglophobe might mutter to his mate while tapping his nose.
In actual fact, after reading this:
I call complete narcissistic bollocks.Quote:
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
The coincidence is that western allies have been trying to destabilise Syria for decades using the same tactics that caused the civil war, ie insert foreign elements to forment and cause dissent and goad the regime into an over-reaction that will trigger a war, and that is exactly what has happened. There was no chance of any kind of moderate stable government as the extremists got inolved immediately and they are the only militarily effective force against assad, the idea that a bunch of farmers could take on the regime is a fantasy. He killed alot of people there was no chance of any kind of peaceful settlement; if assad fell it would have been a blood bath anyway.
About the french guy, well it would be unbelievable without context, but when you look at the history, it just fits the pattern of decades of western interference.
You're an idiot and a windbag Harry.. look on that thread and you'll see a graph that shows the overall trend is growing.. and why would fuel be in less demand with coalition jets and tanks to fill up, not to mention growing car ownership in EU, oh and it's winter if you hadn't noticed. You don't have any answers Harry just your usual bullshit and bad mouthing.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaNeo, you've already shown, by your wild claim that current oil demand exceeds supply, that you're out of your depth on grown up topics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Run long now, sonny, go and play outside.
:rolleyes:
Proper keyboard intellectual you eh Harry
:chitown:
The Anglo-Turkish War. The Russo-Turkish War. Look at history just two hundred years ago...same shyte , different century, eh. :tieme:Quote:
Originally Posted by longwayAbout the french guy, well it would be unbelievable without context, but when you look at the history, it just fits the pattern of decades of western interference.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaIn order for there to be a coincidence, at least two things have to coincide.Quote:
Originally Posted by longway
Israel had a de facto peace agreement with Israel; Syria have never made any serious attempt to reclaim the occupied Golan Heights. In fact Syria has been supplying water to the Golan Heights for decades.
You're correct in that right now Israel aren't too worried because Hezbollah's attention is on Syria .
What I'm talking is what might come later.
Had the moderates been in play early on, a stable and probably accessible, inclusive government would have been on the cards, but that train has long left the station.
But now realistically we're looking at a Muslim state that won't take long to descend into a hardline Sunni theocracy. They might then want their land back as a point of principle.
I don't actually see what you are implying the "bits" are, let alone how they fit together.Quote:
Dumas, "Top British Officials Confessed to Syria War Plans Two Years b | nsnbc international
This was also in the previous link. Perhaps he is lying, but the pieces do fit together rather well.Quote:
The former French Minister of Foreign Affairs appeared in aTV interview with the French TV Channel LPC, saying:“I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”.
And "preparing something in Syria" sounds to me like the sort of thing some Anglophobe might mutter to his mate while tapping his nose.
In actual fact, after reading this:
I call complete narcissistic bollocks.Quote:
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
So now we know you can't read graphs either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoYou're an idiot and a windbag Harry.. look on that thread and you'll see a graph that shows the overall trend is growing.. and why would fuel be in less demand with coalition jets and tanks to fill up, not to mention growing car ownership in EU, oh and it's winter if you hadn't noticed. You don't have any answers Harry just your usual bullshit and bad mouthing.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaNeo, you've already shown, by your wild claim that current oil demand exceeds supply, that you're out of your depth on grown up topics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Run long now, sonny, go and play outside.
:rolleyes:
Proper keyboard intellectual you eh Harry
:chitown:
What a fucking moron.
:smileylaughing:
Putin's airwar in Syria has been described as principled, but it appears those principals are as self serving as everyother politician. And by the way, to hell with the Syrian "collatoral damage" people.
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[QUOTE]'We’ve never been bombed like this': Russia's military campaign in Syria has escalated to new levels
Natasha Bertrand
On Sunday, Russian airstrikes over a busy marketplace in the rebel-held city of Idlib, Syria, killed at least 70 civilians and wounded dozens more.
“We’ve never been bombed like this," Issa Khaled, a resident of the Aleppo suburb of Ghouta, told The Guardian the day after the attack.
"The skies above us looked like Hiroshima," he said, referring to the Japanese city targeted by an atomic bomb during World War II. "There were clouds like mushrooms everywhere we looked. The destruction was incredible."
In retaliation for Turkey's decision to down a Russian warplane late last month, Moscow has stepped up its bombing raids across the north, near the Turkish-Syrian border.
The raids, targeting rebel supply lines and civilian infrastructure, have created "an emerging humanitarian crisis" and exacerbated a refugee crisis that already has Europe near its breaking point.
“We’re seeing a huge increase in the number of civilian casualties. More and more people are being hurt because the intensity of bombing is greater,” Rae McGrath, country director for Turkey and North Syria for the American aid agency Mercy Corps, told The Washington Post's Liz Sly.
McGrath added: “It’s hard to imagine that the conditions in Syria could have become worse than they already were, but they have.”
US President Barack Obama has repeatedly expressed his belief that the Russians — who began their air campaign in Syria on September 30 on behalf of the Syrian government — will get bogged down and ultimately withdraw from the conflict. But as time goes by, the Russian air campaign is becoming only more intense.
"Expectations by each player that its foes will ultimately sink into the Syrian quagmire are perhaps sound in the grand-power game," Joseph Bahout wrote for the Carnegie Foundation's Syria in Crisis blog.
"Nevertheless, this will mean the slow death of Syria, with disastrous spillover
A man runs through dust in a site hit by what activists said were airstrikes carried out by the Russian air force in the rebel-controlled area of Maaret al-Numan town in Idlib province, Syria October 24, 2015.
Russia's air campaign — which, with its reported strikes on marketplaces and ambulances, seems less concerned with collateral damage than the US-led coalition — has been compared to that of the Syrian government, which is known to target bakeries, schools, and hospitals using primitive barrel bombs.
Russian bombs, however, are not as imprecise as the steel barrels packed with explosives and shrapnel dropped by the regime's helicopters. And they appear to be more relentless.
“Where are these reasonable Russians that [US Secretary of State John] Kerry claims are starting to see the light?” a doctor in an Idlib hospital asked The Guardian on Monday.
“Bashar’s jets never bombed us like the Russians do," the doctor said, referring to the forces that support the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad. "ISIS never hunted us down like this."
Moscow, for its part, denies that it is deliberately targeting anyone other than "terrorists."
“We are talking exclusively about terrorist groups and where they are located, and in no way is civilian infrastructure a target for Russia’s air force," ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a recent briefing, according to The Wall Street Journal.
"Any objective observer cannot have a shadow of a doubt about the true intentions of Russia’s airstrikes."
Putin 'gains a lot'
At a marathon press conference last Thursday, Putin signaled Russia's intention to stay the course of the war in Syria.
"It's hard to imagine a better exercise" for Russian forces, Putin said. "So we can train there for a long time without any serious harm to our budget."
He may not have been bluffing: Mark Kramer, the program director for the Project on Cold War Studies at Harvard's Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies, told Business Insider on Saturday that a long-term Russian campaign in Syria is sustainable — for now.
The S-400 SAM system is capable of contesting most of the airspace over Syria, southern Turkey, northern Jordan, a significant portion of Israel, as well as all of Lebanon and Cyprus.
"This sort of operation would have been unsustainable for Russia a decade ago, but Russia's military buildup since 2009 has greatly improved the readiness and deployability of Russian forces," he said.
Hence, Kramer added, they can probably sustain the current level of operations for a while.
"Only if the hostilities escalate and Russian ground forces are deployed to Syria in sizable numbers will it begin to pose serious problems," he said.
Additionally, while the airstrikes are a "tremendous drain on Russian resources" and have not resulted in any game-changing regime victories on the ground, Putin ultimately "gains a lot, much more than in his previous projects," by maintaining the pace of his intervention, said Andrei Korobkov, a professor of post-Soviet relations at Middle Tennessee State University.
"With this incursion, Putin has returned Russia to a major power status, becoming a key player in the Middle East," Korobkov told Business Insider on Saturday.
I hear posters saying that it is effective, but it is damn hard to find any data on that.
More at 'We?ve never been bombed like this': Russia's military campaign in Syria has escalated to new levels - Business Insider
Amnesty have accused Russia of using cluster bombs in civilian areas, and bombing medical facilities too.
But we knew Putin is bombing the Sunni opposition, so what's new?
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Originally Posted by harrybarracudaSo now we know you can't read graphs either.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoYou're an idiot and a windbag Harry.. look on that thread and you'll see a graph that shows the overall trend is growing.. and why would fuel be in less demand with coalition jets and tanks to fill up, not to mention growing car ownership in EU, oh and it's winter if you hadn't noticed. You don't have any answers Harry just your usual bullshit and bad mouthing.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaNeo, you've already shown, by your wild claim that current oil demand exceeds supply, that you're out of your depth on grown up topics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Run long now, sonny, go and play outside.
:rolleyes:
Proper keyboard intellectual you eh Harry
:chitown:
What a fucking moron.
:smileylaughing:
You made that bit up like the hysterical dickwad you are.Quote:
your wild claim that current oil demand exceeds supply
I said that demand is on the increase, but the price is falling.
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Are you standing on your head Harry :dunno:
fixed that for ya ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
You're nearly there, Neo. One long hard look at the graph again, see the blue line that says "world production". This is a really long word, I know, but just to help you out, it's what clever people use when they mean "supply".Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Go on, push hard, I reckon you might work it out eventually.
:chitown:
Well done Harry. And consumption means demand, that's another big word.
Do you know what the dotted line is for? Mr G will be along to bail you out soon :)
What's to quibble about on such a simple graph? Stockpiles are currently high (green column next to the vertical dotted line) but predicted to fall in coming months, no doubt due in part to the NH winter. Yes, in the last few months production has exceeded consumption, thus increasing stock piles, once again that is in the run-up to peak winter season- but may also explain the recent drop in oil price.
In terms of geo-strategic energy flows, certainly involving Putin, the main thing of interest is that Russia has rapidly become a major energy supplier to China.
I know, he must be giving the shit away cheaper than Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
:rofl:
By the way, the Green columns are not the stockpiles, they are already brimming.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
It is the surplus.
They're running out of places to put it.
This was from November.
Everyone is praying that mild El Nino winter goes away fast!Quote:
The U.S. Energy Information Administration said crude inventories grew by 252,000 barrels last week, versus the near 2 million-barrel build forecast by analysts in a Reuters poll. [EIA/S] While the rise was smaller than thought, it brought crude stockpiles across the United States to 487.3 million barrels in the week to Nov. 13, within a hair of their modern-day record of 490.9 million barrels set in April.
So stockpiles are decreasing while demand is increasing as the price falls. That was my original point.
With what other commodity would such a contradiction take place unless the market is manipulated?
Why always with the drama Harry ?
:chitown:
Are you really as thick as you sound?Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
Can you read English?
I mean seriously, which bit of this do you not understand?
Stockpiles are full. They are still pumping more than can be consumed.Quote:
The U.S. Energy Information Administration said crude inventories grew by 252,000 barrels last week, versus the near 2 million-barrel build forecast by analysts in a Reuters poll. [EIA/S] While the rise was smaller than thought, it brought crude stockpiles across the United States to 487.3 million barrels in the week to Nov. 13, within a hair of their modern-day record of 490.9 million barrels set in April.
And you think the price should go UP?
Fuck me, you really are giving RPETER a run for his money, you gibbering idiot.
:smileylaughing:
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Originally Posted by Neo
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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda