How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

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Originally Posted by Neverna

You just twist my words to suit your agenda.

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I twist nothing and have no agenda. You and Ohdoh are the ones pushing tinfoil conspiracy theory not me.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

So stop being stupid.

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https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/11/176.jpg

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Originally Posted by Neo

Is anyone actually denying that the Russian combat operations are causing civilian casualties?

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It has been insinuated on this thread so yes.

Insinuated..? The only one banging on about it is you.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by Neverna

Why did the Guardian write that? Because there was nothing in the video that looked like a hospital or hospital staff? Because there's nothing to in the video to indicate where the missile came from? Because the Guardian could not verify the allegation? Probably. Maybe being accurate does not fit your agenda.

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I didnt see the video (I block JavaScript at the browser level) and it really is beside the point. The facts are in the body of the article itself and that is what you have still failed to address.

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So you missed my post immediately before yours then? Or you didn't read it? Or can't you read?

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Originally Posted by bsnub

I have no "agenda" I do not spend my time reposting propaganda on TD like some of you. I just call bullshit when I see it.

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Likewise, and there is an odour of BS in some of the content you have posted, which is why I don't buy into it and swallow it hook, line and sinker like you. .

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iPGwac2h18

Very funny - skip to the part where the foxy RT reporter is challenging the state department reps about this Russia Bombed Hospitals myth - what a bunch of shit eating fools these shiny suit washington a-holes are.

2.40 onwards.

^ Good post dude. You got that one there and credit is due. That said I think that the fact that most of the Russian planes there use unguided ordnance there have been substantial civilian casualties. That is simply Russian military doctrine and has been proven in every conflict they have been involved in.

you really can't believe anything coming from the state department, they are full of shit

amazing, isn't it ? the propaganda these days is bigger than anything we had since the lies of 2001 and 2003

So it looks like the Yanks are just repeating unverified shite they've heard or watched on Youtube. Idiots. Does snubby work for the US State Department?

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Originally Posted by bsnub

I posted this article up a couple of pages back. It is chalk full of legitimate sources in Syria who say it is happening. I challenge you or Ohdoh to debunk it.

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian

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:rofl:

Thanks to RT for doing that and to Pseudolus for finding the video.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by bsnub

I posted this article up a couple of pages back. It is chalk full of legitimate sources in Syria who say it is happening. I challenge you or Ohdoh to debunk it.

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian

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:rofl:

Thanks to RT for doing that and to Pseudolus for finding the video.

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So sorry for you dumbass the article I posted has nothing to do with the state department press release.

You keep grasping at straws.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by Neverna

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Originally Posted by bsnub

I posted this article up a couple of pages back. It is chalk full of legitimate sources in Syria who say it is happening. I challenge you or Ohdoh to debunk it.

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian

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:rofl:

Thanks to RT for doing that and to Pseudolus for finding the video.

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So sorry for you dumbass the article I posted has nothing to do with the state department press release.

You keep grasping at straws.

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So you didn't read or understand the article and you didn't listen to or understand the video? Oh my goodness. Let me spell it out to you. The same hospital is mentioned in both (you know, the one that is still standing). Now go back and get someone to help you with comprehension.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by Neverna

Does snubby work for the US State Department?

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Umm dipshit did you read my previous post? Just tripping over yourself like a giddy school girl eh?

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Yes, I read it. The embarrassing one (for you) where you realise you were duped into believing BS. I suppose you have forgotten my posts saying some of your posts had a hint of BS to them. Glad we agree on that now.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

The same hospital is mentioned in both (you know, the one that is still standing). Now go back and get someone to help you with comprehension. __________________

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Funny you said that but no specific hospital is ever mentioned in the video. Facts form the article;

"Dr Mohamed Tennari, director of Sarmin hospital, said the facility appeared to have been directly targeted and could no longer serve patients on one of the fiercest frontlines in the war."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...an-doctors-say


After years. Your Russian masters knocked that shit off in days.

Is Putin's civilian death count getting anywhere close to 10% of Obama's or Bush's yet???

^ Do you have data to back your words? If not STFU. The Russians have taken a little slice. You want mass murder then check the Chechen wars.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Do you have data to back your words? If not STFU. The Russians have taken a little slice.

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You really do take retarded to new levels with your hypocrisy and double standards, the Ruskies kill a few innocent civilians in Syria and there is all this faux outrage yet when the seppo's kill tens of thousands it's just collateral damage and nothing to see here. So how many deaths of innocent women and children are America responsible for in Iraq and Syria??? And Putin is the evil one... :rofl:

How are the anarchist meetings going??? Still plotting to overthrow the system by voting Democrat??? :smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by Neverna

The same hospital is mentioned in both (you know, the one that is still standing). Now go back and get someone to help you with comprehension. __________________

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Funny you said that but no specific hospital is ever mentioned in the video. Facts form the article;

"Dr Mohamed Tennari, director of Sarmin hospital, said the facility appeared to have been directly targeted and could no longer serve patients on one of the fiercest frontlines in the war."

Four Syrian hospitals bombed since Russian airstrikes began, doctors say | World news | The Guardian


After years. Your Russian masters knocked that shit off in days.

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Wrong video, numpty.

This one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iPGwac2h18

Anything else you want to embarrass yourself with?

The Russian air campaign is proving far more effective than the US' ever was, and the reason is quite simple- Russian airpower is able to communicate and co-ordinate with the Syrian, Iranian and (perhaps) Russian forces on the ground, whereas American strikes- due to, shall we say, diplomatic constraints, never were. It seems to me a very blinkered policy to place our pseudo alliance with the Sunni Gulf states, with their untrammeled support and sponsoring of Sunni radicalism, above our enmity to IS, AQ and everything they stand for (as well as their sworn enmity toward us). It also marginalises the US role in any future diplomatic initiatives and solutions.

^ Excellent post and you sir get a green.

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Originally Posted by Neverna

Wrong video, numpty. This one ...

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OH satellite images. I am so convinced. BS

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Originally Posted by sabang

The Russian air campaign is proving far more effective than the US' ever was, and the reason is quite simple- Russian airpower is able to communicate and co-ordinate with the Syrian, Iranian and (perhaps) Russian forces on the ground, whereas American strikes- due to, shall we say, diplomatic constraints, never were. It seems to me a very blinkered policy to place our pseudo alliance with the Sunni Gulf states, with their untrammeled support and sponsoring of Sunni radicalism, above our enmity to IS, AQ and everything they stand for (as well as their sworn enmity toward us). It also marginalises the US role in any future diplomatic initiatives and solutions.

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Also, the Axis of Evil have been targeting civilian infrastructure and supporters of Assad. They are not going to bomb ISIS because ISIS are their men on the ground doing their bidding.

US is so pissed off at the Russians because they are actually bombing the US's pet poodles.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

Also, the Axis of Evil have been targeting civilian infrastructure and supporters of Assad.

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Got any proof to back that claim? I thought not.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

They are not going to bomb ISIS because ISIS are their men on the ground doing their bidding.

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Another unfounded and completely bogus claim. They have been bombing the fuck out of ISIS and there is a mountain of evidence to back that up.

Once again more tinfoil tomfoolery here.

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Originally Posted by bsnub

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

Also, the Axis of Evil have been targeting civilian infrastructure and supporters of Assad.

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Got any proof to back that claim? I thought not.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

They are not going to bomb ISIS because ISIS are their men on the ground doing their bidding.

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Another unfounded and completely bogus claim. They have been bombing the fuck out of ISIS and there is a mountain of evidence to back that up.

Once again more tinfoil tomfoolery here.

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Its all out there and been posted so many times on here that there is really no point. You keep waving your little flags and cheering on your boys murdering innocent women and children, and thank the fucking lord that it is not happening to you and your family. Mind you, you live in a basement, so if a drone bombed your mums house, you might be OK.

Idiot.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

Its all out there and been posted so many times on here that there is really no point.

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No its not and no it hasn't.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

You keep waving your little flags and cheering on your boys murdering innocent women and children

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Nope no I don't.

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Originally Posted by pseudolus

Mind you, you live in a basement

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Nope no I don't.

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Idiot.

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Yes you sure are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU615FaODCg

^ Your soundtrack and life story. How nice.

Putin signs law allowing retaliatory sequestration of foreign property in Russia

Russia passes an law enabling it to seize assets in Russia.

"According to the new law, the jurisdictional immunities of a foreign state and its property could be limited on the territory of Russia on the principle of mutuality, in the case that the jurisdictional immunity of Russia has been found to be suffering limitations on the sovereign territory of that country.The provisions of the law would not be applied if Russia and the other country have reached an agreement to act differently."


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Its all out there and been posted so many times on here that there is really no point.

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snub is the villiage idiot, don't forget he is american, and conservative

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Originally Posted by OhOh

Putin signs law allowing retaliatory sequestration of foreign property in Russia

Russia passes an law enabling it to seize assets in Russia.

"According to the new law, the jurisdictional immunities of a foreign state and its property could be limited on the territory of Russia on the principle of mutuality, in the case that the jurisdictional immunity of Russia has been found to be suffering limitations on the sovereign territory of that country.The provisions of the law would not be applied if Russia and the other country have reached an agreement to act differently."


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Sanctions must be hurting.

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snub is the villiage idiot

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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Sanctions must be hurting.

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The Russians like to work in a legal fashion Harry. Some other countries, not so bothered. :)

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Originally Posted by OhOh

The Russians like to work in a legal fashion Harry.

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:smileylaughing:

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Sanctions must be hurting.

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The Russians like to work in a legal fashion Harry. Some other countries, not so bothered. :)

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OhOh, I used to cover Russia as my 'territory' but only went twice - couldn't get me back there, but let me assure you that Russians work anything but in a legal fashion. :)

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Sanctions must be hurting.

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The Russians like to work in a legal fashion Harry. Some other countries, not so bothered. :)

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Whether it's legal or not is irrelevant.

It simply proves that the sanctions must be hurting.

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the sanctions are definitely hurting, but when you went through 50 years of Communism, you can get through anything

go Russia, go

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the sanctions are definitely hurting, but when you went through 50 years of Communism, you can get through anything

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xanax makes a valid point - Russians are far more mentally prepared for tough times than westerners

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the sanctions are definitely hurting, but when you went through 50 years of Communism, you can get through anything

go Russia, go

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Yes, well if that were true, Putin wouldn't have felt the need to threaten a bit of tit-for-tat, would he?

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Originally Posted by bsnub

The Russians have no experience waging wars that are not directly on their own boarders. They lack the skills and experience to wage war in a foreign theater. You can not learn these things from a book it only come from experience. The US is by far and away the master of logistical warfare. That is experience that the Russian can not come close to matching. Your posts clearly show that you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about.

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Correct.

And that is US and UK armed forces that are light years ahead in actual fighting capacity compared to anyone else on this planet. You don't learn this from a book, or in training camp.

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You don't learn this from a book, or in training camp.

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I admit it does take a great deal of guts, training, intel, ensuring you have enough fuel/food/survival kit in the right place i.e. close at hand, not 1,000's of kilometers away as we all know missiles and bombs only fly 2km.

Possessing expensive weaponry to bomb two JCB's in the middle of the desert, clearly labeled hospitals or wedding celebrations. When you have the best planes, the best fighters, the best missiles and the best bombs who would think after 10+ years in Afghanistan there wouldn't be a terrorist left. Or after two previous wars in Iraq there wouldn't be any terrorists their either.

It takes an intelligent leader with a plan to win, not the dipshits the western sheeple "elect".

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^ A pathetically oversimplified analysis.

^I try to keep it simple for the likes of you.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

When you have the best planes, the best fighters, the best missiles and the best bombs who would think after 10+ years in Afghanistan there wouldn't be a terrorist left. Or after two previous wars in Iraq there wouldn't be any terrorists their either.

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Your comment reinforces how little you understand the situation in either country. Like I said pathetic oversimplification.

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Originally Posted by OhOh

It takes an intelligent leader with a plan to win

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I am going to assume you are talking about your idol Putin. I will say that that didnt help the Russians during there disastrous occupation of Afghanistan.