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    Meeting of Council for Strategic Development and National Projects

    Vladimir Putin held a meeting of the Presidential Council for Strategic Development and National Projects via videoconference.


    July 19, 2021 19:30 The Kremlin, Moscow

    The overview of commitments that were agreed previously.

    (A sharp stick is placed on the table.)

    "In May 2018, we outlined the key areas of our work until the middle of this decade, and last year, in July 2020, we extended our planning horizon to 2030. The decision was made considering the speed and scale of social, economic and technological transformation happening in Russia and the world in general. Our country must not only respond to these challenges but be the leader of global changes. We have everything to become one. We need to set and solve everyday tasks, which build up, and remember systemwide tasks as well, as they both create the canvas of long-term development. ...."



    (The undocumented meeting "discussion" gap.)



    The concluding statement of the action agreed at the meeting.

    (A larger sharp stick joins the original sharp stick, on the table.)

    "....

    What would I like to draw your attention to? It was noted today that we managed to preserve the macroeconomic indicators, and this is a foundation on which we resolve all other tasks. In planning additional expenses, we must bear in mind that we need to preserve this macroeconomic sustainability and look at how our one-time obligations or long-term commitments will correspond to our revenues in the near future. We must undertake a proper, deep analysis of the situation and make relevant decisions on reaching our national development goals on its basis.

    I would like to thank all of you not only for today’s work and our meetings, but for everything you have done in the previous months, in a year and a half. I am sure that overall we are on the right track. We must focus our resources on reaching the goals we have set ourselves."

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    We must focus our resources on reaching the goals we have set ourselves.
    Which essentially boils down to trousering as much cash as he can and hoping he can make himself bulletproof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Which essentially boils down to trousering as much cash as he can and hoping he can make himself bulletproof.
    You don't know anything about Russia or the Russian people! You hide behind the keyboard and just writing foolish things.

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    US-German Nord Stream 2 deal has a third partner

    July 22, 2021 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR


    "The joint statement issued in Washington and Berlin on Wednesday signifies that the two countries have struck a compromise deal over the controversial Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
    Both the US and Germany were eager to simmer down the controversy. For President Joe Biden, the controversy stood in the way of reviving the transatlantic partnership with Germany, while for Chancellor Angela Merkel, Nord Stream 2 is a proud legacy of her 16 years in power.

    However, what is overlooked is that there is also a third party to Wednesday’s compromise deal — Russian President Vladimir Putin, who can be described as the ‘guarantor’ of the deal.

    Typically, Putin shies away from publicity, and these are not exactly happy times in ‘East-West’ relations. Or else, ideally, this could have been a historic photo-op for Biden and Merkel with Putin.


    The ‘back-to-back’ deal carefully worked out between Merkel and Putin beforehand came into view Wednesday evening when Merkel had a call with Putin to touch base with him for one more time. The Kremlin readout of their conversation says Putin ‘noted Germany’s consistent commitment to implementing this project, which is strictly a commercial venture and is designed to enhance energy security of Germany and the rest of the EU.’


    In plain terms, Putin complimented Merkel and assured her once again that Moscow would treat the Nord Stream 2 ‘strictly’ as a commercial venture of mutual benefit. The readout signalled that Merkel took Putin into confidence regarding her talks with Biden at the White House recently during her ‘official working visit’.


    Russia wouldn’t like the Nord Stream 2 project to be explicitly linked to Moscow’s agreement with Kiev to continue to use Ukrainian territory for transportation of gas to Europe via the Soviet era pipelines. The readout nonetheless acknowledged that Putin also discussed with Merkel ‘the opportunity to extend the agreement’ with Kiev beyond the existing timeline of 2024.

    Without doubt, this is the corner stone of Wednesday’s deal. The Kremlin readout is carefully worded to hint at Russia’s constructive approach apropos Merkel’s commitment to Biden that Ukraine will continue to be a beneficiary of Russian gas supplies and transit fee beyond 2024.
    Call this an ‘assurance’ or ‘guarantee’ or ‘understanding’ or whatever, but Putin has put in place the necessary underpinning for Wednesday’s deal. This is also an incredible feat of Russian diplomacy. Moscow achieves three things here.

    First, Putin’s willingness to extend the agreement beyond 2024 with Ukraine is a gesture to Merkel personally for ending the controversy over Nord Stream 2 while she is still Germany’s chancellor. Putin is also aware of Germany’s predicament vis-a-vis Ukraine, which of course is not in Russia’s interests, as Berlin remains a sobering influence on Kiev for keeping the Minsk Agreements alive.


    Second, the Russian assurance at the highest level as regards the upcoming negotiation of the agreement between Gazprom and Naftogaz Ukraine becomes a confidence-building measure regionally insofar as Russia’s strategic interests lie in strengthening its profile and credentials as a reliable source of energy.

    In fact, a window of opportunity is open for Russia to continue supplying gas to Poland what with Denmark’s latest decision to withdraw a permit for the Danish section of the Baltic Pipe gas pipeline from Poland to Norway, which Warsaw was banking on to shift away from dependence on Russian gas. read more

    Equally, Russia’s constructive approach to helping Ukraine enhances its image in the European perceptions. This could have fallouts not only for future gas contract negotiations with Europe but also on Moscow’s ambitious plan of construction of an energy bridge linking any future nuclear production in the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad with the EU electricity market.


    Third, the gas supplies from Russia and the transit fee Kiev earns annually from Gazprom is vital for Ukraine’s economy. Washington keeps talking about Ukraine’s so-called energy transition (switch to renewable energy, development of hydrogen, increased energy efficiency, weaning away from coal, carbon neutrality, etc.) but that is a long haul and the regime’s record on reform in general doesn’t inspire confidence.

    In political terms, therefore, Putin takes the long view that Ukraine will ultimately see the merits of friendly partnership with Russia, given the realities of geography and history. And in the Russian toolbox, energy is a valuable asset to develop relations with Ukraine.

    The US-German Nord Stream 2 deal commits Berlin to sanction Russia if it tries to use energy supplies for gaining geopolitical leverage, but that is a hypothetical scenario. Germany has also agreed to make investments in Ukraine’s energy sector and to actively ensure that Moscow and Kiev extend the gas transit agreement. Additionally, Germany would invest $1 billion (€0.85 billion) in a “Green Fund” to foster Ukrainian green-tech infrastructure, encompassing renewable energy and related industries, with the goal of improving Ukraine’s energy independence.

    Washington will no longer stand in the way of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. The Biden Administration apparently calculated that it is simply counterproductive to significantly undermine or weaken the US’ relations with Germany over a project that has already been completed despite sustained pressure from Washington. Washington may have factored in that even after the upcoming Bundestag election, the opposition to Nord Stream 2 within Germany being a minority opinion, no future government in Berlin would go back on it.

    Above all, the US may have even salvaged some victory by getting Germany to fall in line with the EU’s consensus on energy security and in future, refrain from leaving the European path on energy relations with Russia. But this is for the future, and the fact is, Germany is a powerhouse and more than half a superpower, and it is increasingly assertive.

    Fundamentally, however, there is a contradiction. Pipelines have a history of realigning strategic relationships. The echoes of a distant past will be resonating here. Chancellor Willy Brandt resisted the US pressure to go ahead with the energy pipeline from the former Soviet Union (1973) and, in a historical perspective, his visionary Ostpolitik opened the pathway for detente — and arguably, resulted in German unification!

    The Nord Stream 2 too is destined to transform German-Russian relationship and the US will have to learn to live with it. The catch here is that the US’ failure to kill Nord Stream 2 calls attention to its waning influence over Germany. Any strengthening and consolidation of German-Russian partnership due to the dense energy ties would put the US at further disadvantage.

    The state department official who briefed the media said, “Our joint statement (Wednesday’s) sends a clear message that the United States and Germany will not tolerate Russia using energy as a geopolitical weapon in Europe or escalating its aggression against Ukraine. We’re committed to working together with our allies and partners to impose significant costs on Russia, including in the areas of sanctions and energy flows, if it engages in these malign activities.” read more

    Despite Wednesday’s deal, there remains strong bipartisan opposition to the pipeline in the US Congress, as well as in Ukraine and Poland. Clearly, the US will not take its eyes off the German-Russian relationship and will keep butting in to make sure it doesn’t flourish too much to its liking.

    Nord Stream 2 will overshadow US-German relations for years. Merkel’s absence beyond September, when she retires, will be keenly felt in Moscow. Merkel has consistently played a key role in trans-Atlantic relations between Europe and the US. She has also been the West’s principal interlocutor with the Kremlin — and with Putin personally."

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    ^ Have the US forced Germany to agree to pay over $3bn to Ukraine each year?


    Nord Stream 2: US and Germany reach deal on controversial Russian gas pipeline - BBC News

    Ukraine stands to lose about $3bn (£2.2bn) a year in gas transit fees.

    Under the terms of the US-German deal, Ukraine will get $50 million in green energy technology credits and a guarantee of repayment for gas transit fees it will lose by being bypassed by the pipeline through 2024, according to the Associated Press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Germany has also agreed to make investments in Ukraine’s energy sector
    As some suggest, "the Ukraine’s energy sector" is under pressure to improve. It's physical infrastructure, management capability and reduction of the current illegal theft of oil and gas ....

    To meet any supply to it's citizens requires engineering solutions and finance. As it's Ukraine and Germany/EU who desire that the flow of the Russian supplied oil and gas runs through Ukraine’s infrastructure. It falls to them to ensure "the Ukraine’s energy sector" can be certified as meeting the multitude of EU "rules".

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    to actively ensure that Moscow and Kiev extend the gas transit agreement.
    Russia has allegedly not seen and has not been a party to or signed any "Historic Germany and ameristan NS2 Agreement".

    Allegedly, Germany has agreed to, "actively ensure that Moscow and Kiev extend the gas transit agreement". As any existing agreement between Russia and Ukraine extension, is not due for a few years, what is finally agreed between the two parties:

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    Whether any in office now or, any future potentially Russian or Ukraine leader both of which face reelection, will feel obliged to offer is moot.

    What Germany or ameristan will deliver is not stated.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Germany would invest $1 billion (€0.85 billion) in a “Green Fund” to foster Ukrainian green-tech infrastructure, encompassing renewable energy and related industries, with the goal of improving Ukraine’s energy independence.
    This is an EU, Ukrainian new agreement which may or may not be delivered and has no bearing on any NS2 agreement. ameristan may wish to conjoin them, for their domestic audience.



    Mr. Speaker : "So to wrap up the "Historic Germany and ameristan NS2 Agreement".

    Mr. Speaker : "This can be freely swallowed with gusto, or rejected to the wasted effort bin."

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    Mr. Speaker : "The question is known, what say the House, Yea or nay?"

    The Honourable Members of the House roar overwhelmingly: "Nay"



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    It was gonna happen anyway, so best to get an agreement in place. I suspect the US/ Nato is starting to realise what a basket case Ukraine is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I suspect the US/ Nato is starting to realise what a basket case Ukraine is.
    A small nation that had Crimea pried away by the Russian army and then had to deal with an onslaught that was fully backed and funded my Mockba not to mention the regular Russian army soldiers and Spetnaz that still partake in the "civil war".

    You bozo's chose to ignore the mountain of video evidence that proves what is really going on, some of which has been posted here by me countless times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global View Post
    You don't know anything about Russia or the Russian people! You hide behind the keyboard and just writing foolish things.
    Oh look, a stupid fucking troll. I wonder if it is a multinic?


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    for Chancellor Angela Merkel, Nord Stream 2 is a proud legacy of her 16 years in power.
    And one her replacement will hopefully fix in double quick time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    ^ Have the US forced Germany to agree to pay over $3bn to Ukraine each year?

    Nord Stream 2: US and Germany reach deal on controversial Russian gas pipeline - BBC News

    Ukraine stands to lose about $3bn (£2.2bn) a year in gas transit fees.

    Under the terms of the US-German deal, Ukraine will get $50 million in green energy technology credits and a guarantee of repayment for gas transit fees it will lose by being bypassed by the pipeline through 2024, according to the Associated Press.
    I do not know what they will pay Ukraine every year (each year?). But I know that they always pay even if the Ukrainers steal the gas and/or block it.

    Besides there are many other bad tricks what they do to their Russian cousins, not only blocking the access to Crimea and the 2 separatist republics of Ukraine people and their bombarding but also stopping electrical supply and recently the water supply. That's a real blackmailing, relying on their big friends who send their cruisers in surrounding waters, however, no longer enough money to support as they supported before.

    The Ukraine is on the brink of bankruptcy, their population has dramatically declined.

    But the dangerous Mr. Putin still has been very patient. Despite being claimed and accused that he will control Germany and the all EU? The gas has been flowing to Europe over 30 years (40?) and never has been a case of curbing the supply despite the permanent sanctions and other friendly actions against them.

    And they "have to" supply the gas for EU through Ukraine? Now, after what they invested such huge projects under such huge adversary? Any such similar case in other friendly and so not so friendly countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh look, a stupid fucking troll. I wonder if it is a multinic?

    That's the best you can do? Your intelligence just way overwhelming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global View Post
    That's the best you can do? Your intelligence just way overwhelming.
    It's all that's needed frankly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's all that's needed frankly.

    it figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    And they "have to" supply the gas for EU through Ukraine? Now, after what they invested such huge projects under such huge adversary?
    All the participants have signed agreements and taken steps for their own financial protection.

    Apparently some still believe in such honourable, archaic principles.

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    It is not in Russias interest to be an unreliable supplier. Such unreliability will see Germany looking elsewhere for its energy needs. Russia needs these sales when energy is such a large part of the economy.
    Putins' problem is coming to grips with the fact that you cant just transplant Russians into other countries during soviet occupation and then think they have a right to cecede into Russian satellite republics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    It is not in Russias interest to be an unreliable supplier.
    It's not in Europe's interest to become solely dependent on one supplier, whether it's the murderous dictator or the Great Satan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's not in Europe's interest to become solely dependent on one supplier, whether it's the murderous dictator or the Great Satan.
    The "one supplier, whether it's the murderous dictator or the Great Satan" hasn't made use of his monopoly position for over 40 years, despite his ostracizing and sanctioning.

    So, why not to get rid of him and engage some others? (and don't mind the prices and strings attached...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's not in Europe's interest to become solely dependent on one supplier, whether it's the murderous dictator or the Great Satan.
    Which is why it diversifies its energy suppliers:

    From where do we import energy?


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    From where do we import energy?

    Of course, some are here today gone tomorrow vassal countries subject to their master's whims.

    Russia has shown it delivers, come rain come shine, over many years. Those EU leaders set the "rules" as to which suppliers it is satisfied meet it's "rules".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Russia has shown it delivers, come rain come shine, over many years.

    HAHAHAHA

    You're funny.

    Russia has decided to cut off supplies of gas to Ukraine after the two countries yesterday failed to agree on a price for gas in talks mediated by the European Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Russia has decided to cut off supplies of gas to Ukraine after the two countries yesterday failed to agree on a price for gas in talks mediated by the European Union.

    How outrageous from Russia, after the Ukraine cut off water and access to Crimea, not speaking about other friendly actions and overdue payments for the gas...

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    Oh look it's the yapping puppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Oh look it's the yapping puppy.
    If you would see the truth with your own eyes you would be still blind to the facts! You have so much hate for Putin and a Russian Federation you can only see evil. You should look at other western countries which includes US and others how much corruption they get away with but that's all normal to you! Very sad. Just like in a joke. If the rabbit (Putin) wear a hat today that's why we bit him up if the rabbit (Putin) doesn't wear the hat the next day than we bit him up for that. That is your truth and logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Russia has decided to cut off supplies of gas to Ukraine after the two countries yesterday failed to agree on a price for gas in talks mediated by the European Union
    Try posting the full story.


    Russia cuts gas to Ukraine

    Russia rejects compromise proposed by the European Union

    By Andrew Gardner
    June 16, 2014 1:21 pm

    "
    Russia has decided to cut off supplies of gas to Ukraine after the two countries yesterday failed to agree on a price for gas in talks mediated by the European Union.

    Russia’s Gazprom had warned Ukraine on Wednesday (11 June) that it would turn off the taps if it did not receive money in its account by 9am this morning to pay down Ukraine’s gas debts to Russia. In a statement issued this morning, Gazprom said that it was now moving to a pre-payment system. “Starting today, the Ukrainian company” – Naftohaz, operator of Ukraine’s gas distribution network – “will only get the Russian gas it has paid for."

    Russia cuts gas to Ukraine – POLITICO

    "No money, no honey", is a phrase our Thai readers, may be familiar with.

    "Cash on delivery", "No credit", "Put your money where your mouth Is", .... are others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by global View Post
    If the rabbit (Putin) wear a hat today that's why we bit him up if the rabbit (Putin) doesn't wear the hat the next day than we bit him up for that. That is your truth and logic?
    Well no, because I have no idea what that drivel means.

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