Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

You might have a point that it needed a strongman to control reform when the USSR crumbled. But that was thirty fucking years ago and he's had the Russian people by the throat since the alcoholic Yeltsin basically ceded power to him. In 1999.

If you read the article by Putin in 1999 you'd know that Russia had to stop with the radical reforms and radical ideas.

Between 2000 and 2008, the GDP grew by 83%, productivity grew by 70%, and expenses for accumulating fixed capital doubled in real terms. Whereas in 1999, per capita GDP by purchasing power parity (PPP) was $9,300 (only 25% above the global average), by 2008, this indicator had increased to $21,600 (78% above the global average). Russia's share in the world economy grew fourfold over the same period, from 0.6% to 2.7%. The welfare of the population increased considerably: real wages increased by 3.4 times, and real pensions increased by 2.8 times.

Alfie Solomon looks more like Rasputin than Dorsey, imho.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

There might be a bit of a bloodbath as his criminal allies jostle for power.

Schadenfreude . . .

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman
Without Putin Russia will fall apart!

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

There might be a bit of a bloodbath as his criminal allies jostle for power.

He yet needs to learn how to barricade himself off with help of 25,000 troops - all vetted - that the population will at last understand how much he had done for them during his 50 years in action...

^^^

Originally Posted by panama hat

Schadenfreude . . .

??? From a Nazi-boy?

Blast from the past. This was in 2014. Russia does things it's own way. And all the haters will hate Russia no matter what it does. Most of the comments on YouTube don't actually support the pussy riot freak show

^ An unusual montage, considering two of the three (Hitler & Stalin) were the main antagonists of WW2, and the war between Germany and Russia caused by far the most deaths during that global conflagration. In comparison, trifles like the western front, holocaust, desert war etc were just a sideshow. One was proudly fascist, one proudly commie So what exactly are they meant to have in common? Then there's Vlad who, as best I'm aware, has been involved in no major war- just a bit of Chechen chessplay.. Were they all pigeon fanciers or something ?

Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny's team has released a report about a sprawling, opulent Black Sea palace allegedly owned by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The video was posted less than two days after Navalny's arrest.



Alexei Navalny's team on Tuesday released a two-hour video featuring details of a luxurious property on Russia's southern Black Sea coast purportedly belonging to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The YouTube feature, accompanied by a blog post from the jailed dissident, claims Putin's property cost $1.35 billion (€1.1 billion) and was paid for "with the largest bribe in history."
The video, released less than two days after Navalny was arrested at Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport and subsequently jailed. It alleges that the private estate is 39 times the size of Monaco. Among the facilities it is said to boast are an ice rink and vineyards, with the sprawling mansion containing a theater and casino.

Described as the "most expensive palace in the world," the palace complex spans some 7,800 hectares (about 19,300 acres), and also includes a church, an amphitheater, a teahouse and a helipad. The palace was allegedly funded through an elaborate corruption scheme involving Putin's inner circle in return for a favor.

"It is the most secretive and well-guarded facility in Russia, without exaggeration," Navalny says in the video. "This isn't a country house, it’s not a cottage, it's not a residence — it's an entire city, or rather a kingdom. It has impregnable fences, its own port, its own security, a church, its own permit system, a no-fly zone, and even its own border checkpoint. Its like a separate state inside of Russia. And in this state there is a single and irreplaceable czar. Putin."

Video appeal for protests

The video, which finishes with a call for Russians to take a stand against the government, echoes a video from 2017 in which Navalny accused then-Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev of being at the helm of a luxury property empire. That investigation led to large-scale protests by Putin's opponents.

DW's Moscow correspondent Emily Sherwin said the latest investigation may add to the number of protesters on Saturday, when Navalny’s team have already announced plans for a Russia-wide protest. But for now, the overall numbers will likely be tempered by new restrictions, the ongoing pandemic and unusually cold weather.

"The new Putin investigation will likely attract a lot of clicks, but it's hard to say if it will lead to more to protests, due to tightened protest laws, COVID-19 restrictions and freezing temperatures."

"Protests may build up closer to the Duma elections in September, especially because the coronavirus pandemic has hit Russia's economy hard."

Within two hours, the video had been viewed almost three million views on YouTube. According to the report, the film was produced while Navalny was still in Germany, where he was recovering from an attack with the nerve agent Novichok in August.

Moscow dismisses allegation as old

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said the allegations were old but that the property, near the resort town of Gelendzhik, did not belong to Putin. The allegations were first made in 2010 by Sergei Kolesnikov, a businessman with connections to Putin before his time in politics. On paper, the property appears to be owned by businessman and billionaire Alexander Ponomarenko.

"I am not familiar with the investigation," said Peskov. "However, I can say right away that this record is old. Many years ago, we already explained that Putin has no palace in Gelendzhik."
The video was released soon after Navalny was detained upon his return to Russia from Germany for the first time since he was poisoned. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail.

The 44-year-old claims that Putin ordered the poisoning, an accusation that the Kremlin has repeatedly denied.


Navalny team releases investigation into ′Putin′s Palace′ | News | DW | 19.01.2021

https://palace.navalny.com/

Originally Posted by sabang

An unusual montage

It is . . . and ever so apt

Just like I said. Some airhead would post this.

Cartoon Putin with his cartoon mansion. And the cartoon investigative journalist apparently is the only one in possession of pictures inside Putins personal property.

There is already people picking out the photoshops and CGI. And data coming out that show Google & YouTube's algo's are punting this as high as anything they've punted before.

Let's post pictures of Clintons mansions and Obama's estates too and wank all over them

Originally Posted by Backspin

Just like I said. Some airhead would post this.

Having Skidmark call you an "airhead" is akin to being savaged by a dead sheep.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Let's post pictures of Clintons mansions and Obama's estates

But they surely do not have golden faucets, heated swimming pools and tigers in the gardens as we were shown the ones of Saddam, Yanukovich, etc, you name them...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

But they surely do not have golden faucets, heated swimming pools and tigers in the gardens as we were shown the ones of Saddam, Yanukovich, etc, you name them...

. . . add Putin and his pack of thugs

Correct. You got it right for a change

I just found an article written by Vladmir Putin in 1999. It is rather impressive.

Putin on RUSSIA & MILLENNIUM

You're easily impressed . . . but the you think Trump is brilliant, which he is when compared to you.


So, if you can't understand simple sentences as above, how can you understand what you would consider an economic treatise?

Ok,

Originally Posted by Backspin

It is rather impressive.

What did you find so impressive? The lack of foreign investment? The over-dependence on fossil-fuel related exports, leaving the country open to potential disaster or is it more a matter of the low quality of Mazut, Russian crude?

Oh, so many things to discuss and share in your being impressed about what is basically a short speech.

Originally Posted by panama hat

What did you find so impressive? The lack of foreign investment? The over-dependence on fossil-fuel related exports, leaving the country open to potential disaster or is it more a matter of the low quality of Mazut, Russian crude?

You know that this was written in 1999 right ? 1999. 1999.


What happened after 1999 ?

Between 2000 and 2008, the GDP grew by 83%, productivity grew by 70%, and expenses for accumulating fixed capital doubled in real terms. Whereas in 1999, per capita GDP by purchasing power parity (PPP) was $9,300 (only 25% above the global average), by 2008, this indicator had increased to $21,600 (78% above the global average). Russia's share in the world economy grew fourfold over the same period, from 0.6% to 2.7%. The welfare of the population increased considerably: real wages increased by 3.4 times, and real pensions increased by 2.8 times.

Putin identified what was wrong, had a plan and executed it.

Originally Posted by Backspin

You know that this was written in 1999 right ? 1999. 1999.


What happened after 1999 ?

Between 2000 and 2008, the GDP grew by 83%, productivity grew by 70%, and expenses for accumulating fixed capital doubled in real terms. Whereas in 1999, per capita GDP by purchasing power parity (PPP) was $9,300 (only 25% above the global average), by 2008, this indicator had increased to $21,600 (78% above the global average). Russia's share in the world economy grew fourfold over the same period, from 0.6% to 2.7%. The welfare of the population increased considerably: real wages increased by 3.4 times, and real pensions increased by 2.8 times.

Putin identified what was wrong, had a plan and executed it.

Listen Skido or should I say Kiddo? You can post all the numbers and statistics you want. Fact is that Russia isn't there where it's supposed to be and never will be. Unless they get another Catherine the Great

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Listen Skido or should I say Kiddo? You can post all the numbers and statistics you want. Fact is that Russia isn't there where it's supposed to be and never will be. Unless they get another Catherine the Great

Congratulations. You just said the dumbest thing that could possibly have been said on this topic.

The data is what determines where Russia should or shouldnt be. You utterly brainless fool.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Putin identified what was wrong, had a plan and executed it.

Putin and Russia profited from rising oil prices. Their economy collapsed together with the oil price. A sure sign of a third world economy.

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Putin and Russia profited from rising oil prices. Their economy collapsed together with the oil price. A sure sign of a third world economy.

No it didn't. The Ruble fell with oil prices just as other oil ccy's like the Canadian dollar do. Russia is back above 500 billion in reserves, where they were in 2013. Even with low oil prices and Covid. And nobody is saying that Russia is a developed country. It is trying to get there. It has problems but is miles ahead of other middle countries like Turkey or Brazil

Originally Posted by Backspin

I just found an article written by Vladmir Putin in 1999. It is rather impressive.

Originally Posted by panama hat

Oh, so many things to discuss and share in your being impressed about what is basically a short speech.

Originally Posted by Backspin

You know that this was written in 1999 right ? 1999. 1999.

You really are pathetic. You are incapable of having even a basic discussion on a topic you started. You know nothing, quote some article which you haven't read nor know the background of . . . you really are a waste of space

Originally Posted by panama hat

You really are pathetic. You are incapable of having even a basic discussion on a topic you started. You know nothing, quote some article which you haven't read nor know the background of . . . you really are a waste of space

I am ? Really ?

My answer was totally in line with the topic at hand. You decided take a cheap shot with the economic data in the piece and I had to put it into context

This sums up Skidmark nicely . . . tries to make a point based on skimming a headline at ZeroHedge and . . .