Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

They might as well just say "We're going to look everywhere we think it could be until people don't care any more" and stop with the nonsense press conferences.

I'm sure cancelling all press conferences will make them very popular.

What is disturbing are the large numbers of experts given credence to their opinions.

On that note a well-known Indian psychic say the plane will be found . . . today

It's obvious that they're just guessing and the Hijacking angle takes the pressure off the airline and puts it on the intelligence services - who of course can say that they can't release information "for security reasons".

Maybe that's the plan.

re pressure off the airline,

does anybody know how the MAS shares are doing on the stock exchange?

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

The lack of any communication from passengers seems strange if the aircraft was hijacked.

I'm not buying this one.

There is no cell tower coverage out over the ocean.

If the airline offers it it is via the planes satellite link which was disabled,

Malaysia says it has asked neighbouring countries for their radar data, but has not confirmed receiving the information.

Indonesian and Thai authorities said on Friday they had not received an official request for such data from Malaysia.


this is like a circus

Looks like the world may be in for a very long haul on this one;

Missing Plane: Hijack 'Increasingly Likely'

Sky News documentary (First Video in stacked list on right hand side of page entitled 'Disappearance of Plane Puzzling').

Malaysia Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time
‘Why Are We Even Here?’ Officials Probe

NEWS • News • ISSUE 50•10 • Mar 13, 2014

Assuming the actuality of wavefunction collapse, Malaysia Airlines officials say flight MH370 could currently be located in any possible alternate future.



KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA—Following a host of conflicting reports in the wake of the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 last Saturday, representatives from the Kuala Lumpur–based carrier acknowledged they had widened their investigation into the vanished Boeing 777 aircraft today to encompass not only the possibilities of mechanical failure, pilot error, terrorist activity, or a botched hijacking, but also the overarching scope of space, time, and humankind’s place in the universe.

The airline, now in its fifth day of searching for the passenger jet carrying 239 passengers and crew, has come under fire for its perceived mishandling of the investigation, whose confusing and contradictory reports have failed to provide definitive answers on everything from how long the missing plane remained aloft after losing contact with air traffic controllers, to whether the flight made a radical alteration in its heading, to the very dimensions of space-time and the nature of reality, and what exactly it is that brought us into existence and imbued us with this thing we call life.

Additionally, the airline confirmed it had expanded its active search area to include a several-hundred-square-mile zone in the Indian Ocean as well as each of the seven or 22 additional spatial dimensions posited by string theory.

“We continue to do everything in our power and explore every possible lead—both Cartesian and phenomenological—to locate the aircraft as quickly as possible,” said Malaysia’s civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, who went on to say that authorities were still actively seeking tips from anyone claiming knowledge related either to the flight, or to the mechanisms by which consciousness arises, or to the question of why anything physical and finite exists instead of nothing at all. “At this stage, we can’t rule anything out: not crew interference with the transponders, not a catastrophic electrical failure, not the emergence of a complex topological feature of space-time such as an Einstein-Rosen bridge that could have deposited the flight at any location in the universe or a different time period altogether, nothing.”

“Could a parallel universe have immediately swelled up from random cosmological fluctuation according to the multiverse theory and swallowed the flight into its folds, or could ice have built up on an airspeed sensor? Those are both options we are currently considering,” Rahman added. “Everything’s on the table. That is, insofar as anything exists at all, which we’re also looking into.”

Rahman assured the press and families of passengers that officials would not rest until they locate the plane, provided that sensory experience can be verified beyond the existence of one’s own mind. Malaysian authorities also cautioned that they were dealing with an unprecedented aviation mystery and that it could take months to ascertain the airliner’s exact fate as well as, for that matter, the fate of mankind itself, assuming a linear theory of space-time in which the future is unknowable and objects travel in a forward trajectory which, authorities hasten to add, is not necessarily the case.

In addition, airline sources attempted to assuage an uneasy public by noting they had brought in top crash investigators from the Malaysian, Vietnamese, and Chinese governments, as well as U.S. Navy personnel, Boeing technicians, leading quantum physicists, theoretical cosmologists, metaphysicians, epistemologists, and determinist philosophers to help scour all conceivable and as yet inconceivable locations in which the plane might be located.

“The bottom line is that we have a sophisticated aircraft fresh off a safety inspection with no prior incident of malfunction, flying in good weather at a cruising altitude,” Rahman continued. “Why didn’t the pilot send a distress signal? Why aren’t we finding a debris path? What are we to make of the contradictory radar information? Where did the universe begin and can it be said to have a limit or an edge? What is mankind’s role in it? Is there a God? If so, what is God’s nature?”

“It’s too early to answer these questions right now, but I can assure you that Malaysia Airlines will get to the bottom of it,” Rahman added. “Our top people are on it right now.”

Asia's Bermuda Triangle...

Was there a deliberate act that caused the plane to plummet 40,000 feet in less than a minute?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/evid...t-370-22920757

apparently this article was posted earlier ? though a search of this thread fails to reveal it .

Woman remembers cockpit fun with missing pilot
Author: Emily Crane, Approving editor: Martin Zavan
March 11, 2014


Jonti Roos (in pink) and missing MH370 pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid.
(A Current Affair)

A young woman claims she was entertained in the cockpit for an entire flight back in 2011 by the co-pilot who was on board the Malaysian Airlines plane that went missing on Saturday.

Jonti Roos, who lives in Melbourne, came forward with photos of her posing with a man she claims is 27-year-old Fariq Abdul Hamid - the first officer on missing flight MH370.

She told A Current Affair she and a friend were ready to board a flight from Phuket to Kuala Lumpur in 2011 when the two pilots asked if they would spend the duration of the international flight in the cockpit.

Ms Roos says they were seated in the cockpit during takeoff and landing and that the pilots even asked the girls to stay a few nights in Kuala Lumpur with them.

"Throughout the entire flight they were talking to us and they were actually smoking throughout the flight, which I don't think they're allowed to do," Ms Roos said.

"I know for the whole time they weren't facing the front of the plane and actually flying.

March 11, 2014: She's the Aussie girl who flew with the missing Malaysian airlines co-pilot. Now, Jonty reveals all to A Current Affair and her claims have raised serious questions about the pilot's cockpit behaviour.

"[They were] possibly a little bit sleazy. They invited us, well asked us, if we could arrange our trip to stay a few extra nights."

While passengers are not permitted under any circumstances in the cockpit, according to a Malaysian Airlines spokesperson, Ms Roos said she never felt unsafe.

"I don't think there was one instance where I felt threatened or I felt that they didn't know what they were doing," she said.

"I felt like they were very friendly, but I felt they were very competent in what they were doing."

Ms Roos said she was shocked when she saw photos of Abdul Hamid who was one of 239 people on the flight that disappeared en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur on Saturday.

"When I realised it was the exact same co-pilot and not only that but I had met him and I have photos in the cockpit with him, that was quite shocking," she said.



A shot taken by Ms Roos inside the cockpit of a Malaysia Airline plane.
(A Current Affair)

"When I saw all his friends and family posting on his wall my heart really broke for them and my heart broke for the family of the passengers. It's just a really sad story."

Source: A Current Affair

news.ninemsn.com.au

Originally Posted by somtamslap

So some kunt thieved it?

Bit rude.

My father was an RAF mechanic in India during the war. He said one of the biggest problems they had was the locals stealing stuff, including aircraft parts. He hated Asians, and Indians in particular. That they have graduated to entire aeroplanes would not surprise me.

Jet diverted deliberately: Malaysia
Ananth Krishnan


Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, centre, Malaysia's Minister for Transport Hishamuddin Hussein, left, and Director General of the Malaysian Department of Civil Aviation, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, address the media in Sepang, Malaysia, on Saturday.


A woman writes a message for passengers aboard a missing Malaysia Airlines plane, at a shopping mall in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on Saturday.
AP

Children run past dedication messages and well wishes displayed for passengers and others involved with the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner MH370 on the walls of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport.
AP

University students hold a candlelight vigil for passengers on the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 in Yangzhou, in eastern China's Jiangsu province.
AP

Satellite transmissions suggest the plane was on a course leading in two possible corridors

Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said on Saturday that the missing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 had been “deliberately” diverted from its course and it had flown for seven hours after its last known point of contact over the Gulf of Thailand.

Mr. Najib, in his first statement on the plane’s disappearance, said satellite transmissions had suggested that the plane’s last communication was from two possible corridors.

A map released by Malaysian officials showed those as a curved northern arc from Thailand, through southern and western China and west to Kyrgyzstan and the Kazakhstan-Turkmenistan border, but not passing over India; and a possible southern arc, from Indonesia deep into the southern Indian Ocean.

The findings from satellite transmissions have prompted a substantial adjustment and widening of the search operations being conducted by more than 50 aircraft and vessels from 10 countries.

Search efforts had largely focused on the Gulf of Thailand and the Strait of Malacca since the plane disappeared on March 8.

The aircraft last made contact with civilian air traffic control at 1.22 a.m. local time last Saturday, 40 minutes after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.

It emerged on Thursday that Malaysian military radars had picked up the aircraft an hour later, and tracked it heading west to the Strait of Malacca, and then north, towards the Andaman Sea.

Mr. Najib said satellite transmissions were received till 8.11 a.m., more than seven hours after the flight had gone missing.

“These movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane,” he said.

thehindu.com

Originally Posted by melvin

Malaysia says it has asked neighbouring countries for their radar data, but has not confirmed receiving the information.

Thai air defense radars will certainly have recorded tracks. Giving the raw radar tracks to Malaysia is problematic as the capability of Thai air defense radar is a guarded secret. Same with Malaysian air defense hence the confusion early on when the tracks were said to be had and then said not. Eventually released to investagators which now have changed the facts as to where the plane may have been headed.

15 March: Malaysian police today went to the house of Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, the pilot of the missing flight MH370, minutes after Prime Minister Najib Razak announced that investigators will refocus on the crew and passengers of the aircraft that disappeared eight days ago.

Two police officers went to 53-year-old Capt Zaharie's house in the suburb of Shah Alam here, officials said, without further elaborating.


The Statesman: Police visit house of missing plane

Doomed airliner pilot was political fanatic: Hours before taking control of flight MH370 he attended trial of jailed opposition leader as FBI reveal passengers could be at a secret location

Police investigate data from home flight simulator of captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53
Investigators speak of his 'obsessive' support for opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim
Police officers fear Ibrahim being jailed could have left Shah profoundly upset
Flight MH370 disappeared more than a week ago with 239 people on board
Despite a huge multinational search effort, no signs of the plane or a crash have been found
Malaysian Prime Minister said yesterday that the plane was deliberately steered off course

Police are investigating the possibility that the pilot of missing Flight MH370 hijacked his own aircraft in a bizarre political protest.

The Mail on Sunday has learned that Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Malaysia’s opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.

Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.

Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist – and fear that the court decision left him profoundly upset. It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777-200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew.

Doomed airliner pilot was political fanatic: Hours before taking control of flight MH370 he attended trial of jailed opposition leader as FBI reveal passengers could be at a secret location | Mail Online

Malay leaders, just like most 3rd World leaders, can't reconcile that once they start lying on serious matters to the international community, more and weaker lies are needed to plug the gaping holes, and invariably they end up trapped up their own asses.

And when it's over they go about their business like nothing happened, because nobody expects better from them.

^^ Interesting angle, but the opposition has never shown itself to be radical. Could always be a first, though

What I see here is an upside-down picture of a plane descrending to the cry of "OLE HW". I just wonder who HW is; maybe worth investigating.

Think that's an MH? MH 370.

Just amazing that with all the tech this plane can disappear. I wonder if the rest of the world is as vulnerable as this area. All the money dumped into military spending and there's no security in the air.

The story for that area of water used to be focused on China trying to steal that area from Malaysia. If a plane enters US airspace it's usually intercepted. You'd think that the militaries out there would be paying attention to the planes around them.

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

What I see here is an upside-down picture of a plane descrending to the cry of "OLE HW". I just wonder who HW is; maybe worth investigating.

Well spotted!

"Ole HW"; that'll be avionics speak for: "Old Hardware"......

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Snake eyes in post 751 you said FBI knows of a secret location the plane landed. What source is this? The press has been continuously making claims about secret unconfirmed sources. I wonder how much is made up?

Cheap copy at the moment.

I wonder if the flight simulater is more akin to a game consul. All we know is that the plane was pinging for 5 hours? At 400+ knots that makes a bloody big search area to cover! Unless one or other of the super powers has tracking information it is not willing to share, it is unlikely much will be found, unless it crashed on land.

Do we really know the plane was pinging for 5 hours, everything has been distorted, retracted, re confirmed an plain invented.
As to 2 police searching the pilots house, 2, it's not a stolen car.
Whole thing reeks of incompetence and cover up, what I find strangest, is the use of unnamed US sources.
I don' have English TV and my nets near on useless, but has Boeing, FBI, State department etc, given a press conference where they go on record.

^ Not in their interest to do so. A catastrophic structural failure of the plane will cost Boeing very dearly. That coupled with the Dreamliner problems will give Airbus more than just an edge on the future market. B-777 is one of the few planes that Airbus haven't been able to match.

Boeing and RR as far as their data recording or tracking would in all likelihood be bound by contract to only release information to MAL.

Some whore reporter talks to a contractor who heard a rumor from a friend who has a friend who works at RR (as there are always rumors...) and he suddenly becomes an "unnamed official". The reporter asks RR who refer them to MAL and refuse to comment and so rather than print nothing the story goes to print. 'Cause everyone else has a story and there is advertising money to be made.

This is the only press release on Rolls Royce site,

"Rolls-Royce continues to provide its full support to the authorities and Malaysia Airlines. Rolls-Royce concurs with the statement made on Thursday 13 March by Malaysia's Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein regarding engine health monitoring data received from the aircraft."

Rolls-Royce Statement - Rolls-Royce

Originally Posted by Mid

She told A Current Affair she and a friend were ready to board a flight from Phuket to Kuala Lumpur in 2011 when the two pilots asked if they would spend the duration of the international flight in the cockpit.

I have my doubts about this statement if that is indeed what she said, every flight I have got on the pilots and cabin crew were in the plane well before the passengers boarded as is normally the case. Anybody experienced the opposite?