Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Fuck me, has TD C.S.I still not solved this one?!

I think it's solved. The bloke gently put it in Davy Jones Locker.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

In fact Diego Garcia's own website tells you that it's GEODSS system can track an object the size of a basketball more than 20,000 miles away.
A small aircraft can be picked up at 3, 500 kilometres by its OTH radar

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Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't say any of that shit.

In fact it only mentions the SPS-49:

Range 3 nmi (5.6 km) to 256 nmi (474 km) (AN/SPS-49A(V)1)

So where is your link that says they have radar that can spot a basketball on the opposite side of the planet?

"The GEODSS system can track objects as small as a basketball more than 20,000 miles away"
Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance > U.S. Air Force > Fact Sheet Display
https://fas.org/spp/military/program/track/geodss.pdf



The Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance facility at Detachment 2, in Diego Garcia,

Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance

Added: GEODSS has a bit of a clue in the acronym.....

Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance

Diego Garcia is a Naval Support base so its primary responsibility is for Feeding, Watering and Fueling a variety of US Navy transport.

You're either naive or as usual deliberately obtuse.
Diego Garcia supports and protects a vast US military complex operating out of there. It acts as a halfway point emergency landing strip It's also a GEODSS base.

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

Originally Posted by ENT

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

So where does it say that ? It's for tracking satellites !

Or is that your own interpretation ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

So where does it say that ? It's for tracking satellites !

Or is that your own interpretation ?

Read more.
GEODSS (in conjunction with other US Air Force optical tracking and identification systems, can track anything at low light levels, anywhere between earth and 30,000 miles out into space, from objects the size of a basketball to missiles, space junk re-entering Earth's atmosphere, aircraft or any unidentified flying objects either exoatmospheric, or for observing suborbital endoatmospheric targets such as aircraft.

Originally Posted by ENT

In fact Diego Garcia's own website tells you that it's GEODSS system can track an object the size of a basketball more than 20,000 miles away. A small aircraft can be picked up at 3, 500 kilometres by its OTH radar

1. There is no OTH radar at Diego Garcia.
2. GEODSS is an optical system with high-precision lenses which together with computer based sophisticated image processing makes it possible to see things far away. It is a telescope, not a radar. It can not see over the horizon.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Fuck me, has TD C.S.I still not solved this one?!

Not yet in spite of multiple theories. Until the black boxes are recovered speculation will continue.

My money's on aliens. Mooslim aliens!

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by ENT

In fact Diego Garcia's own website tells you that it's GEODSS system can track an object the size of a basketball more than 20,000 miles away. A small aircraft can be picked up at 3,500 kilometres by its OTH radar

a)1. There is no OTH radar at Diego Garcia.
b) 2. GEODSS is an optical system with high-precision lenses which together with computer based sophisticated image processing makes it possible to see things far away. It is a telescope, not a radar. It can not see over the horizon.

a) SPS-49 radar is an OTH radar system operated by USAF Diego Garcia.

b)GEODSS telescopes operate in conjunction with low-light-level television, computers and the SP-49 OTH radar system at Diego Garcia.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

My money's on the pilot committing pseudocide and living happily somewhere where he couldn't give two hoots.

More likely than not.

Originally Posted by ENT

a) SPS-49 radar is an OTH radar system operated by USAF Diego Garcia.

No, SPS-49 is a long range radar.
After the horizon it can only detect targets high enough up, an OTH radar can detect ground targets on the other side of the horizon.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

So where does it say that ? It's for tracking satellites !

Or is that your own interpretation ?

Read more.
GEODSS (in conjunction with other US Air Force optical tracking and identification systems, can track anything at low light levels, anywhere between earth and 30,000 miles out into space, from objects the size of a basketball to missiles, space junk re-entering Earth's atmosphere, aircraft or any unidentified flying objects either exoatmospheric, or for observing suborbital endoatmospheric targets such as aircraft.

You're bullshitting again.

The problem with your bullshitting is that nothing you post then has any credibility.

SPS-49 has a range of <500Km.

GEODSS is for looking into Space which is why it's in the fucking name.

Why oh why do you bother with this incessant nonsense?

As an aside, I'm pretty sure a defence contractor like Boeing would have made sure whether or not Diego Garcia had any information about the planes whereabouts, since being able to prove the pilot ditched it would exonerate them from any claims over the safety of their aircraft.

In Taiwan.

Malaysia blasts report that MH370 pilot was found ALIVE in Taiwan hospital | World | News | Daily Express

Well not really.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

So where does it say that ? It's for tracking satellites !

Or is that your own interpretation ?

Read more.
GEODSS (in conjunction with other US Air Force optical tracking and identification systems, can track anything at low light levels, anywhere between earth and 30,000 miles out into space, from objects the size of a basketball to missiles, space junk re-entering Earth's atmosphere, aircraft or any unidentified flying objects either exoatmospheric, or for observing suborbital endoatmospheric targets such as aircraft.

SPS-49 has a range of <500Km.

GEODSS telescopic optometry works in conjunction with computers and radar.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

GEODSS is perfectly capable of tracking aircraft, and may replace more obsolete parts of existing tracking systems.

So where does it say that ? It's for tracking satellites !

Or is that your own interpretation ?

Read more.
GEODSS (in conjunction with other US Air Force optical tracking and identification systems, can track anything at low light levels, anywhere between earth and 30,000 miles out into space, from objects the size of a basketball to missiles, space junk re-entering Earth's atmosphere, aircraft or any unidentified flying objects either exoatmospheric, or for observing suborbital endoatmospheric targets such as aircraft.

SPS-49 has a range of <500Km.

GEODSS telescopic optometry works in conjunction with computers and radar.

SPACE you fucking idiot, SPACE!

FFS.

The Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep Space Surveillance facility at Detachment 2, in Diego Garcia, British Indian OceanTerritory is one of three operational sites worldwide. The facility tracks known manmade deep space objects in orbit around Earth. (U.S. Air Force photo)

http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/FactSheets...veillance.aspx

Where do you think space is harry?



Try as you might harry, you won't convince anyone that US Diego Garcia is not surveillance capable.

What makes you think that GEODSS can't see what exists between ground and a point 30,000 miles out in space?

Do you think that there's a hard edged cut-off line between the endoatmosphere where aircraft normally operate and the exoatmosphere?

GEODSS telescopes operate in conjunction with low-light-level television, computers and the SP-49 radar system at Diego Garcia and similarly, at two other GEODSS facilities, one at Maui Island and the other in mainland USA.

GEODSS doesn't suddenly start registering moving objects on leaving earth's endoatmosphere, the system's continually scanning and recording any movement in its field of observation.

To make it simple for ya.



Space.
"Very roughly, it starts about 100 kilometers above the Earth, but there is still part of the Earth's atmosphere even at this altitude. The atmosphere just gets less and less dense, and at these altitudes, the 'scale height' is several hundred kilometers, so that means the continued decrease in the atmosphere slows down significantly. Even at 1000 kilometers, there is a trace of the Earth's 'hydrogen cloud' as its outer atmosphere. It is called the geocorona. The above image was obtained from the NASA/ESA SOHO/SWAN
instrument. The NASA IMAGE satellite will also take pictures of the geocorona in real time as part of its study of the space environment. You can view these pictures as they arrive after May, 2000 at the IMAGE/POETRY page. Look for the images from the 'GEO' instrument.

Archive of Astronomy Questions and Answers

^^ It looks like 3 dunnies, change rooms and a kiosk

There's no arguing with ENT, he will paint whatever picture fits his whackjob narrative.

Originally Posted by ENT

Where do you think space is harry?

Duh.

Try as you might harry, you won't convince anyone that US Diego Garcia is not surveillance capable.

I don't have to convince anyone you imbecile.

You're the only one with these hare-brained theories about the plane.

Actually I would like to issue a heart-felt apology.

There was no need to insult the Hare population like that.

The simplest and most direct explanation is that it was the segment of cargo which contained lithium batteries which caught fire....they were positioned just behind the electronics bay, fer chrissake !

And they are known for catching fire spontaneously.

MH370: Lithium mobile phone batteries on board missing Boeing 777 could have caused crash | World | News | Daily Express

^^ Very deep...

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The simplest and most direct explanation is that it was the cargo of lithium batteries which caught fire....they were positioned just behind the electronics bay, fer chrissake !

MH370: Lithium mobile phone batteries on board missing Boeing 777 could have caused crash | World | News | Daily Express

Had that been the case it would have gone down like MS804 and not flown halfway around the fucking world.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The simplest and most direct explanation is that it was the segment of cargo which contained lithium batteries which caught fire....they were positioned just behind the electronics bay, fer chrissake !

And they are known for catching fire spontaneously.

MH370: Lithium mobile phone batteries on board missing Boeing 777 could have caused crash | World | News | Daily Express

No evidence of heat or fire on the wreckage found., and the plane must have landed relatively softly to wrench a slightly damaged flaperon off intact, more or less.

What was in the cargo?

Does anyone know?

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

The simplest and most direct explanation is that it was the segment of cargo which contained lithium batteries which caught fire....they were positioned just behind the electronics bay, fer chrissake !

And they are known for catching fire spontaneously.

MH370: Lithium mobile phone batteries on board missing Boeing 777 could have caused crash | World | News | Daily Express

No evidence of heat or fire on the wreckage found., and the plane must have landed relatively softly to wrench a slightly damaged flaperon off intact, more or less.

What was in the cargo?

Does anyone know?

I'm sure they do since the cargo has been discussed in this thread often enough.

Lots of mangosteens for a start.

What's your take? Killer mangonsteens? CIA mangosteens? Exploding mangosteens?