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    Good perhaps Scotland leaving would ensure those labour wankers never get in power again, they totally fukced this country socially and economically last time .

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    Gordon Brown and Tony Blair are both jocks. Can them cretins fcuk off as well?

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    I think they already have , no way they want to live in the socially engineered shit hole they helped create .

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcy
    and economically last time
    yes BUT, didn't the banks play some part in that.

    name one western country that didn't get fucked by the banks.
    conservatives were in opposition and supported the deregulating of banks.

    anyway if they have the chance to go independent then they may as well go with it.
    it's what they always rant on about.
    at least they get it out of their system
    and if it goes tits-up
    then tough
    but i don't think it will.
    no.10 will make it a brutal divorce though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Gordon Brown and Tony Blair are both jocks. Can them cretins fcuk off as well?
    Those two did enough damage to last everyone a life time!

    They jumped ship at the right time and left the mess for everyone else.

    They are true Brave heart warriors of the finest order!

    They are on Salmonds Christmas card list for sure.

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    Tony for ever,

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    SCOTLAND - INDEPENDENCE VOTE

    If Scotland gains its independence after the forthcoming referendum, the remainder of the United Kingdom will be known as the "Former United Kingdom" (F.U.K.)

    In a bid to discourage Scots from voting yes in the referendum, Lib Dems have now begun a campaign with the slogan: "Please Vote No For FUK's Sake!"

    They feel that the voters will be able to relate to this, particularly those in Glasgow.

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    ^ .

    they've just been told again that 'no way' will they be able to use the £.

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    Amazing that the SNP have gone so long without having to disclose their plan B

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    Bad news for the English! We might be stuck with them....

    THE Yes campaign’s momentum in the polls has suffered a blow, with a new survey showing only 28 per cent of Scots back independence.

    The TNS UK results are well down on a weekend poll in Scotland on Sunday, which put support for Yes at 39 per cent.

    The latest poll suggests 30 per cent of Scots remain undecided, while 42 per cent intend to vote No. The results are broadly unchanged from the last TNS poll in January.

    The gap between Yes and No does not change when the responses of only those who say they are certain to vote in the September referendum are considered. In that case, 46 per cent back staying in the Union, 32 per cent opt for independence, and the don’t knows fall to 22 per cent.

    Scottish independence poll: Only 28% support Yes - The Scotsman

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    It would be good if the Scottish Government ministers would answer a single question they are asked on Currency, EU, Oil, Business .

    Every question asked is simply returned with the Scottish Government view and no answer to the original question.

    Last night Alex Salmond was asked about decreasing oil revenue and got the above type of answer.

    I can't remember the last time he actually provided an answer to a question on Independence excluding they're bluffing!

    It is not going to be Yes without specific answers to the questions on the issues that concern the Don't Knows .



    Scottish Nationalists make the same noises as nationalists the world over. "Victims, downtrodden, robbed, second-class citizens, bullied" and generally badly treated by all and sundry, etc, etc. I am delighted to report that for us south of the Border, English nationalists (Mr Salmond's southern brethren?) are treated as a pitiful joke -- a collection of sad and angry misfits with dodgy racial views. Is there a lesson for Scotland here?

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    If the EU and English powerhouse want Scotland to remain part of the union, then I am all for Scottish independence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilbert View Post
    If the EU and English powerhouse want Scotland to remain part of the union, then I am all for Scottish independence.
    And if England didnt want Scotland to stay, would you then be in favour of the Union ?

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    Some legal experts have opined that the number of incentives promised to Scotland as a reward for voting to preserve the Union are so extensive, that an English public referendum would be needed to ratify them all. (Given the price that England would have to fork out).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Some legal experts have opined that the number of incentives promised to Scotland as a reward for voting to preserve the Union are so extensive, that an English public referendum would be needed to ratify them all. (Given the price that England would have to fork out).
    What are the incentives that Scotland has been offered ?

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    Surely all of the UK should be able to vote on this as it affects all of us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhandluke
    Surely all of the UK should be able to vote on this as it affects all of us?
    Possibly the most ridiculous statement on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by coolhandluke
    Surely all of the UK should be able to vote on this as it affects all of us?
    Possibly the most ridiculous statement on this thread.
    Why? The people in England seemingly want shot of Scotland. It will affect how English/Welsh/NI people's tax money is spent.

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    only Scot's who have an address in Scotland will have the vote.
    it's their decision.
    no blame when it all goes tits-up, if it does.

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    How about we have a separate vote then; the English, Welsh and N.Irish - do we want Scotland or should we exclude them from the union?

    It's only fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Some legal experts have opined that the number of incentives promised to Scotland as a reward for voting to preserve the Union are so extensive, that an English public referendum would be needed to ratify them all. (Given the price that England would have to fork out).
    What are the incentives that Scotland has been offered ?
    Free underpants when wearing a kilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    How about we have a separate vote then; the English, Welsh and N.Irish - do we want Scotland or should we exclude them from the union?

    It's only fair.

    Although in five years time, English , Welsh and N.I. will probably be voting on whether to allow Scotland back into the Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhandluke
    It will affect how English/Welsh/NI people's tax money is spent.
    Of course, there will be less to go around.


    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    only Scot's who have an address in Scotland will have the vote.
    Non-Scots living in Scotland for over 2 years get a vote too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    How about we have a separate vote then; the English, Welsh and N.Irish - do we want Scotland or should we exclude them from the union?

    It's only fair.
    Yes, that is fair. But to give you a vote on whether you want Scotland to be an independent country is bollox.

    Why not run a campaign for English Independence?
    Lang may yer lum reek...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler
    Why not run a campaign for English Independence?
    That's a nice idea; from Europe first please, also from our corrupt political tossers in Westminster and from the banking dynasties, but we would (are) never allowed to...

    Or, we could pump up RAtM and Take the Power Back (or just stay in and watch Britain's Got Talent...).
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by coolhandluke
    It will affect how English/Welsh/NI people's tax money is spent.
    Of course, there will be less to go around.


    Quote Originally Posted by billy the kid
    only Scot's who have an address in Scotland will have the vote.
    Non-Scots living in Scotland for over 2 years get a vote too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    How about we have a separate vote then; the English, Welsh and N.Irish - do we want Scotland or should we exclude them from the union?

    It's only fair.
    Yes, that is fair. But to give you a vote on whether you want Scotland to be an independent country is bollox.

    Why not run a campaign for English Independence?
    Because the media would label English nationalists as fascists.

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