Thread: SNP want to keep the £ and independence.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

We've already got some.

No, you haven't got any opium. What you do have, however, is Western Europes biggest problem with diacetylmorphine.

Your towns and cities are awash with the shit, and why? Because your country is the seeping, festering arsehole of Western Europe. Not because of the Sassenach in Westminster as you'd so like to believe, but because your people are the most dour, miserable, defeatist, depressive, bunch of sorry-sad-sack-teat-suckling, small man syndrome, sectarian cunts to have ever disgraced the face of the planet.

To top off your national pass time of injecting smack you also have the worst diet in western europe, the highest rate of alcohol abuse, the highest obesity rate and the highest rate of state dependance.

You are a fucking joke of a people and nation. I heartily look forward to the day you vote "Yes", and thus begin your inevitable spiral back toward the state of filthy, blue painted, stone-hut dwelling heathen savagery you wallowed in for centuries - before the English semi-civilised you ungrateful barbarian pale skinned freckly ginger cunts.

You offer us absolutely fuck all! You're an irritating, costly, miserably ungrateful millstone around our necks! Your sense of entitlement is fucking staggering, you enjoy special privileges within the union because you're such a bunch of feckless wankers, yet you still have the gall to try and bite the hand that feeds you? Fuck right off you scrounging baghead deep fried mars bar eating unhealthy fucks.

Go on, get to fuck you sweaty sock cunts - we don't need, like, nor want you as part of our nation.

Originally Posted by khmen

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

We've already got some.

No, you haven't got any opium. What you do have, however, is Western Europes biggest problem with diacetylmorphine.

Your towns and cities are awash with the shit, and why? Because your country is the seeping, festering arsehole of Western Europe. Not because of the Sassenach in Westminster as you'd so like to believe, but because your people are the most dour, miserable, defeatist, depressive, bunch of sorry-sad-sack-teat-suckling, small man syndrome, sectarian cunts to have ever disgraced the face of the planet.

To top off your national pass time of injecting smack you also have the worst diet in western europe, the highest rate of alcohol abuse, the highest obesity rate and the highest rate of state dependance.

You are a fucking joke of a people and nation. I heartily look forward to the day you vote "Yes", and thus begin your inevitable spiral back toward the state of filthy, blue painted, stone-hut dwelling heathen savagery you wallowed in for centuries - before the English semi-civilised you ungrateful barbarian pale skinned freckly ginger cunts.

You offer us absolutely fuck all! You're an irritating, costly, miserably ungrateful millstone around our necks! Your sense of entitlement is fucking staggering, you enjoy special privileges within the union because you're such a bunch of feckless wankers, yet you still have the gall to try and bite the hand that feeds you? Fuck right off you scrounging baghead deep fried mars bar eating unhealthy fucks.

Go on, get to fuck you sweaty sock cunts - we don't need, like, nor want you as part of our nation.

For fuck sake you uneducated guffy bastard, get your facts right. We're not all from Glasgow.

The UK overall is running a large deficit which it makes up by borrowing. Any excess that Scotland may receive in handouts from Westminster at the moment comes from this pot.

Please note that links to a blog hilariously called "The Scotsman" are not to be taken seriously.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

(I said I love Scotland and want the best for her).

If you did you'd be supporting the drive for independence

^^ Cameron doesn't "have" to do anything at all. Why would he wish to lower himself to engage in debate with such a narrow-minded, uncompromising, fact-denying bigoted cnut like Salmond?

And don't give me any of that "Salmond would destroy him in a debate, that's why he won't agree to it" claptrap. Salmond, when challenged on virtually any aspect of Scotlands future, can not be pinned down on anything solid whatsoever.

Why? Because he's just riding a wave of nationalist fervour, has absolutely no solid plans for the future after a Yes vote, and is simply capitalising on the endemic traditional Scottish small man syndrome and pathological hatred of their vastly superior neighbours. There's no substance to the Yes campaign, it's all piss and wind.

Anyone voting yes is a deluded nationalist wanker voting for the slim chance that they may be better off in some vague, undefined, Utopian future free from the yoke of their evil Sassenach "oppressors".

They're voting for nothing but thin air and rabble-rousing propaganda! Propagandized bunch of resentful little mugs!

I really, really hope Scotland vote "Yes" and I really, really hope it's a catastrophic failure. Fuck them, bunch of horrible wee cunts deserve it. Time to cut the apron strings and let the pathetic little children loose in the big bad world, save the UK a good few quid by stopping the feckless fuckers pocket money.

Gordon Brown is addressing delegates at the European Parliament.
Scotland

THE SCOTSMAN
Picture: John Devlin
by SCOTT MACNAB
Published on the
26 June 2014 13:52

AN independent Scotland faces an additional £500 million annual bill to stay in the European Union, former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has told the European Parliament.

Scotland would lose its share of the UK rebate, worth £2 billion over seven years, and then have to pay into the UK rebate at a cost of £540 million over the same period, Mr Brown has said in a speech entitled “Independence and Interdependence”.

“As part of the UK, the contribution made by Scottish taxpayers to the EU budget over 2014-20 would be around £8.5 billion,” he said.

“But it is estimated that an independent Scottish state would contribute a total of around £11 billion to the EU budget over the same seven-year period.

“The difference is that Scotland would lose the benefit from the UK rebate - £2 billion over seven years.

“Ironically, they would also have to contribute to the UK rebate - about £540 million over seven years.

“This gives a total additional direct cost to Scottish taxpayers of around £2.5 billion or £935 per household over 2014-20.

“This means that while Scotland’s membership of the EU through being a member of the UK is worth £350 million a year extra to Scottish taxpayers, this would be lost. “

Negotiations over common agricultural policy payments and structural funds could also see Scotland’s EU bill rise, he added.

“Under less optimistic scenarios, an independent Scottish state could see its CAP and total receipts fall substantially, with the deterioration in net contributions over 2014-20 rising to as much as £3.7 billion or £1,400 per household compared with the situation if Scotland were to remain part of the UK.

“This could mean that Scotland’s membership of the EU as part of the UK is worth £500 million a year more than as an independent state.

Ok, you want no security or infrastructure. Great.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

just how much more money an Independent Scotland would actually have when it's keeping it's own oil revenue

"It's Scotland's oil" yeah. Educate me. IRL oil revenue is not that important unless you want to end as gulf state. Real money is in many things Scotland does successfully.

But I guess if you are a socialist it does not matter.