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    Socialism doesn't fail as it will soon be the only economic model in the world when US style capitalism collapse (another 20 years)

    France main problem is bureaucracy and an obsessive mentality of "administrative" process. This is not reserved to socialism but also to sophisticated capitalist economies. The US is currently drifting to that kind of obsession with their focus on security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    Socialism doesn't fail as it will soon be the only economic model in the world when US style capitalism collapse
    Try telling the Chinks that.

    Socialism doesn't work; plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Socialism doesn't fail as it will soon be the only economic model in the world when US style capitalism collapse (another 20 years)
    I think the U.S. is, and will continue to shift (albeit slowly) to forms of socialism because of the high percentage of baby boomers that are getting older. This "socialism" will be in the areas of medical care, and other entitlements. Medicine costs and Medicare (latter is for people 65 and older) is pretty messed up, though.

    France main problem is bureaucracy and an obsessive mentality of "administrative" process. This is not reserved to socialism but also to sophisticated capitalist economies. The US is currently drifting to that kind of obsession with their focus on security.
    I just read the budget of the U.S. and they spend a lot on security and military.

    Welfare job creation. Private companies that contract from the U.S. government.
    ............

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    I'm quite happy with the results of the French elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    if boeing didn't receive those tens of billions in US subsidies, it would be out of business....thus relating directly to your comment....
    The Japanese who work at Boeing do most of the design work for all new A/C at boeing ever since the 777.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Socialism doesn't work; plain and simple.
    How do you know ? are some kind of authority to know better ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    I'm quite happy with the results of the French elections.
    Why ? are you planning to retire to France like Richard Perl ? oh, the irony.

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    The below quote sums things up quite nicely, don't you think?

    "Anyway, the gist of the disagreement between Europe and America is the 'peens think they achieved lasting peace through endless conversations in Swiss hotels with bottles of bubbly water and plates of runny cheese scattered about the table. Americans think the reason Europeans have achieved lasting peace has something to do with the fact that every time these conversations broke out into full-blown brawls, the United States marched into the room and imposed order like a parent getting the kids to stop wrestling over the remote control." - Jonah Goldberg

    Runny cheese and two hour lunches does not a great country make...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Runny cheese and two hour lunches does not a great country make...
    But it is a good prelude to an afternoon "roll in the hay".

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDN View Post
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    ^ actually I think he is a facist, and being from Poland doesn't help. He is going to cause a lot of unrest. He is the GW Bush of France. This should get interesting.
    Yes, there'll be rioting in the streets, you mark my words.

    Oh-oh, already happened.



    Any y'all notice that 99% of these 'youths' who are rioting are muslims?
    Guess they're not big fans of the democratic process, eh?

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    Being a libertarian of sorts I should support Sarkozy but he seems a man driven by the pursuit of power for its own sake. Sociopaths excell in politics and he has that funny look in his his eye... ... It may sound foolish but many constituents vote on the basis of personality rather than policy.
    They champion falsehood, support the butcher against the victim, the oppressor against the innocent child. May God mete them the punishment they deserve

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    ^
    No matter how sociopathic Sarkozy looks, the alternative would have been far worse.

    Although I'd give her ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    ^

    Although I'd give her ride!
    Yeah, its nice to see quality 40+ women. Out here in Asia they all seem to melt and turn into hags at 35 years old ...

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    ^you've been looking in the wrong places.

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    I was to meet her a few years ago, but didn't make it to the meeting.

    She is said to be one of Mitterand daughter, according to "well connected" rumors, hence the ressemblance. Not sure if really true, even though he had many "illegitimate" kids around.

    Her "husband" however is a total tosser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Best comment I've seen yet on France's 'lurch to the right':



    Michael van der Galien puts it rather succinctly:
    Socialism has had its day; socialism has brought moral decline, high unemployment rates, weak, unstable economies, huge governments, regulation in just about every area of one’s life; it has caused something called personal responsibility to disappear; it has brought moral relativism; it has learned us that we cannot be proud of our respective country; it has made large groups of people unnecessarily dependent on the government; it has forced us to accept the failed concept of multiculturalism; it has taught us (I mean Europeans in general with that) that whatever you do, you have to be politically correct; it has created an environment in which one is not allowed to name problems, let alone deal with them; it has taught us that criminals are not to blame for their crimes, society as a whole is and that they, therefore, should be coddled instead of punished… oef, the list goes on and on. Socialism has weakened France, and Europe as a whole; it is time to get rid of it.

    Amen to that...
    p.s. the link is down at the moment - apologies...
    youv'e just described the UK

    and i thought we were talking about french politics

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    i think you will also find that he had the most agressive imigration policy,
    as with the rest of europe, althogh immigration is ok to a certain degree, things have severely gotten out of hand and many countries simply can not cope.

    spain
    portugal
    italy
    and now the uk
    holland were the first to rebel from the mainstream voting, a few years
    ago, however when the right wing got voted in the leader got assasinated.

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    French Jews celebrate Sarkozy victory

    PARIS -- Optimistic and celebratory, Jewish groups were quick to offer congratulations to Nicolas Sarkozy after his victory in French presidential elections.

    Sarkozy, of the ruling Union for a Popular Movement (UMP), defeated Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal in Sunday's runoff.

    He garnered some 53 percent to Royal's 47 percent in the election, which featured a huge voter turnout.

    The former interior minister was seen by Jewish voters as a friend to Israel and an important figure in the fight against antisemitism. Soon after his opponent conceded, Jewish groups came out with their good wishes.

    "At a time when French Jews felt directly threatened by the rise in violent antisemitism in Paris and elsewhere across France a few years ago, [probably through false flag operations] Sarkozy played a critical role in moving the French government to finally recognise the gravity of the problem and to do what is necessary to address the ill winds that not only threaten the largest Jewish community in Western Europe, but, as we know from history, would ultimately pose a threat to wider French society," American Jewish Committee executive director David Harris said in a statement.

    French Jews celebrate Sarkozy victory (May 7, 2007)



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    Well, good for them, eh, Kerux? p.s. you've got another crap signature. Please remove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Best comment I've seen yet on France's 'lurch to the right':



    Michael van der Galien puts it rather succinctly:
    Socialism has had its day; socialism has brought moral decline, high unemployment rates, weak, unstable economies, huge governments, regulation in just about every area of one’s life; it has caused something called personal responsibility to disappear; it has brought moral relativism; it has learned us that we cannot be proud of our respective country; it has made large groups of people unnecessarily dependent on the government; it has forced us to accept the failed concept of multiculturalism; it has taught us (I mean Europeans in general with that) that whatever you do, you have to be politically correct; it has created an environment in which one is not allowed to name problems, let alone deal with them; it has taught us that criminals are not to blame for their crimes, society as a whole is and that they, therefore, should be coddled instead of punished… oef, the list goes on and on. Socialism has weakened France, and Europe as a whole; it is time to get rid of it.

    Amen to that...
    p.s. the link is down at the moment - apologies...
    youv'e just described the UK

    and i thought we were talking about french politics
    There's nothing 'French' about this article, just a very general, unspecific opinion piece, judging by the quote. Could have been written anytime in the last 20 years as well.

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    I deleted a few off-topic remarks. This is not a thread about them Jooos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by meepho View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Best comment I've seen yet on France's 'lurch to the right':




    Michael van der Galien puts it rather succinctly:
    Socialism has had its day; socialism has brought moral decline, high unemployment rates, weak, unstable economies, huge governments, regulation in just about every area of one’s life; it has caused something called personal responsibility to disappear; it has brought moral relativism; it has learned us that we cannot be proud of our respective country; it has made large groups of people unnecessarily dependent on the government; it has forced us to accept the failed concept of multiculturalism; it has taught us (I mean Europeans in general with that) that whatever you do, you have to be politically correct; it has created an environment in which one is not allowed to name problems, let alone deal with them; it has taught us that criminals are not to blame for their crimes, society as a whole is and that they, therefore, should be coddled instead of punished… oef, the list goes on and on. Socialism has weakened France, and Europe as a whole; it is time to get rid of it.
    Amen to that...
    p.s. the link is down at the moment - apologies...
    youv'e just described the UK

    and i thought we were talking about french politics
    There's nothing 'French' about this article, just a very general, unspecific opinion piece, judging by the quote. Could have been written anytime in the last 20 years as well.
    Nothing specific 'French' mentioned in the excerpt but it was written as an analysis of the election. You want the general link, I'll post it.

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    France has 8.5% unemployment, seems a pretty good idea to elect a conservative.
    Personally I doubt they will join the Coalition of the Villains.

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